Dukes win 77-73!!

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I think that's the 3rd time in league play where we've fallen down by 13-15 and made a late rally to make the score respectable, usually because we hit more shots.

GG's all, we've got a ways to go still to catch up to you guys. Good luck rest of the way unless we meat in Pensacola.

Vegas Sharks were on point as they usually are even though it was a back door cover after JMu dominated the game and led by double digits most of the time.

I thought this was the best game prep Byington has shown in his 4 years. Very well done on defense and on offense. He just has to get X out of the game when JMu has a lead and you know the other team is in foul mode.

Nobody was going to get clean looks in the royal rumble and the Dukes proved they can win with brawn and toughness to play through muggings.

Dukes sitting in 3rd only one game out of first as both App State and LLLouisiana get upset tonight.

I thought we played well except for the last couple of minutes. Road wins are tough. Appalachian State lost tonight. Seems like Troy is playing some good ball. Saturday night will be a tough game which will help us.

(02-07-2024 10:14 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Vegas Sharks were on point as they usually are even though it was a back door cover after JMu dominated the game and led by double digits most of the time.

I thought this was the best game prep Byington has shown in his 4 years. Very well done on defense and on offense. He just has to get X out of the game when JMu has a lead and you know the other team is in foul mode.

Nobody was going to get clean looks in the royal rumble and the Dukes proved they can win with brawn and toughness to play through muggings.

Dukes sitting in 3rd only one game out of first as both App State and LLLouisiana get upset tonight.

Yeah. When those in game odds jumped to a 12.5 spread, it was time to take those points.

That crowd was rowdy and stayed engaged even while they were laying brick after brick down ~15. Byington mentioned in his postgame that their football team was sitting behind the JMU bench cussing them out and talking smack. 

It is bananas to think that JMU basketball draws the best crowds at away venues in conference. Our Sun Belt foes east and west know all about us and the jealously/hatred factor will be approaching CAA football levels if the programs keep rolling. 

Ps: Wooden's dunk was dirty. He has laid down a few absolute hammers this season.

FT shooting late in games continues to allow teams to make late runs at us. We shoot under 70% (.695) for the year, but I'd wager closer to 50% in the final 5 minutes of the game.

I know tired legs lead to more misses, but Wooden and Friedel missed some critical FTs down the stretch.

Noah missed one ft and was 3 out of 4 for the game. He is also 46-53 on the year, which is 87%. I think there are other players who are a greater risk shooting FT’s than Noah, but you can check the stats on that.

(02-08-2024 11:43 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  FT shooting late in games continues to allow teams to make late runs at us. We shoot under 70% (.695) for the year, but I'd wager closer to 50% in the final 5 minutes of the game.

I know tired legs lead to more misses, but Wooden and Friedel missed some critical FTs down the stretch.

At the risk of going full-BDK: not sure these thoughts really jive with reality. By my count we were 8-for-11 down the stretch last night, with one miss each from Freidel, Wooden, and Brown, and a lot of makes from Edwards. Last night was only the second time since November 21st that we won a game by fewer than 14 points (16 wins in that stretch overall), so either teams aren't making late runs at us, or we are hitting the late free throws to bump the margin back up right at the end.

(02-08-2024 11:25 AM)Bobby Bottleservice Wrote:  That crowd was rowdy and stayed engaged even while they were laying brick after brick down ~15. Byington mentioned in his postgame that their football team was sitting behind the JMU bench cussing them out and talking smack. 

It is bananas to think that JMU basketball draws the best crowds at away venues in conference. Our Sun Belt foes east and west know all about us and the jealously/hatred factor will be approaching CAA football levels if the programs keep rolling. 

Ps: Wooden's dunk was dirty. He has laid down a few absolute hammers this season.

When your the Georgia/Alabama SEC equivalent of the SBC, the hate is going to come out strong.

Just can't afford to trip up or we will never hear the end of it.

Some of this is who do you have on the floor. Ark St. was fouling immediately so there was really no risk of a turnover if we got ball in bounds.

At times we had Randleman and TJ on the floor when the most important thing was making FT's which is not good coaching IMO. Those guys should be nowhere near the floor in the last minute of a game. X Brown probably should not be in there either. Friedel, Edwards and the other 3 best FT shooters need to be on the floor.

I will also agree that the stats showed that we shot ok and the real issue was that we let them score way too easily though I think they made a mistake by not trying to hit 3 pointers earlier as layups were not going to win the game. The issue was we gave the layups way too easy and should have at least tried to force one pass before a shot.

(02-08-2024 11:25 AM)Bobby Bottleservice Wrote:  That crowd was rowdy and stayed engaged even while they were laying brick after brick down ~15. Byington mentioned in his postgame that their football team was sitting behind the JMU bench cussing them out and talking smack. 

It is bananas to think that JMU basketball draws the best crowds at away venues in conference. Our Sun Belt foes east and west know all about us and the jealously/hatred factor will be approaching CAA football levels if the programs keep rolling. 

Ps: Wooden's dunk was dirty. He has laid down a few absolute hammers this season.

yo bobby. you are correct. who knew Julien had that kind of ups! seems like he is good for 1 or 2 times a game.

(02-08-2024 02:13 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  Some of this is who do you have on the floor. Ark St. was fouling immediately so there was really no risk of a turnover if we got ball in bounds.

At times we had Randleman and TJ on the floor when the most important thing was making FT's which is not good coaching IMO. Those guys should be nowhere near the floor in the last minute of a game. X Brown probably should not be in there either. Friedel, Edwards and the other 3 best FT shooters need to be on the floor.

I will also agree that the stats showed that we shot ok and the real issue was that we let them score way too easily though I think they made a mistake by not trying to hit 3 pointers earlier as layups were not going to win the game. The issue was we gave the layups way too easy and should have at least tried to force one pass before a shot.

we were up 11 with 90 seconds left. we went into the equivalent of prevent defense and gave up 2 points in exchange for time. turnovers and missed fts got them close - but not enough

let the sunbelt hate for the Dukes build! yes, every sunbelt fanbase gets up for us. App, Ark st, ODu - we are the Dallas cowboys of the sunbelt. remember when we were told that the sb didnt want us? ha. Straight to the top baybee

(02-08-2024 03:22 PM)PGJMU Wrote:  

(02-08-2024 02:13 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  Some of this is who do you have on the floor. Ark St. was fouling immediately so there was really no risk of a turnover if we got ball in bounds.

At times we had Randleman and TJ on the floor when the most important thing was making FT's which is not good coaching IMO. Those guys should be nowhere near the floor in the last minute of a game. X Brown probably should not be in there either. Friedel, Edwards and the other 3 best FT shooters need to be on the floor.

I will also agree that the stats showed that we shot ok and the real issue was that we let them score way too easily though I think they made a mistake by not trying to hit 3 pointers earlier as layups were not going to win the game. The issue was we gave the layups way too easy and should have at least tried to force one pass before a shot.

we were up 11 with 90 seconds left. we went into the equivalent of prevent defense and gave up 2 points in exchange for time. turnovers and missed fts got them close - but not enough

let the sunbelt hate for the Dukes build! yes, every sunbelt fanbase gets up for us. App, Ark st, ODu - we are the Dallas cowboys of the sunbelt. remember when we were told that the sb didnt want us? ha. Straight to the top baybee

So when was this period of time where the SB didn't want us? The fact is we were asked by the SB if we'd be interested in joining their conference about a decade ago. Our response was that we're not ready. Almost a decade passes, they came to us again. Where in this did they not want us? If you are concerned about what a random fan says, then thicken up. There's not one SB University president or AD who's not glad we are here. Heck, we just enabled AR State to have the largest crowd they've had all season and it was a weeknight game.

(02-08-2024 08:24 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(02-08-2024 03:22 PM)PGJMU Wrote:  

(02-08-2024 02:13 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  Some of this is who do you have on the floor. Ark St. was fouling immediately so there was really no risk of a turnover if we got ball in bounds.

At times we had Randleman and TJ on the floor when the most important thing was making FT's which is not good coaching IMO. Those guys should be nowhere near the floor in the last minute of a game. X Brown probably should not be in there either. Friedel, Edwards and the other 3 best FT shooters need to be on the floor.

I will also agree that the stats showed that we shot ok and the real issue was that we let them score way too easily though I think they made a mistake by not trying to hit 3 pointers earlier as layups were not going to win the game. The issue was we gave the layups way too easy and should have at least tried to force one pass before a shot.

we were up 11 with 90 seconds left. we went into the equivalent of prevent defense and gave up 2 points in exchange for time. turnovers and missed fts got them close - but not enough

let the sunbelt hate for the Dukes build! yes, every sunbelt fanbase gets up for us. App, Ark st, ODu - we are the Dallas cowboys of the sunbelt. remember when we were told that the sb didnt want us? ha. Straight to the top baybee

So when was this period of time where the SB didn't want us? The fact is we were asked by the SB if we'd be interested in joining their conference about a decade ago. Our response was that we're not ready. Almost a decade passes, they came to us again. Where in this did they not want us? If you are concerned about what a random fan says, then thicken up. There's not one SB University president or AD who's not glad we are here. Heck, we just enabled AR State to have the largest crowd they've had all season and it was a weeknight game.

huh? you must have forgotten all of the talk by our fans and sb fans that we were at the bottom of the list. Bourne had screwed up again, etc. We missed the window - ahhhhh. And hey, dont worry about my thick skin. I have maintained forever that our fans generally have an inferiority complex and that we need to walk like the bad asses that we are.

Walk tall, my man, we are stallions.

all good. go Dukes - pile on the hate. Lets be the "Duke" of the G5s.

Just a couple/three of observations:
1. I thought that JMU generally played well, but I didn't like the finish. Got a little lazy on defense and made some careless mistakes.
2. I believe that Michael Green should be reinserted into the starting lineup, as he's much better at orchestrating the offense and his confidence seems to have returned. Brown is the better defensive player and I think is better used coming off the bench. Will be curious if Byington sees it that way going forward.
3. These Bart Torvik stats, if you scroll to the bottom, show Friedel with the highest number of points above replacement on the team, followed by Bickerstaff and Edwards: https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Jam...&year=2024

(02-09-2024 10:31 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  Just a couple/three of observations:
1. I thought that JMU generally played well, but I didn't like the finish. Got a little lazy on defense and made some careless mistakes.
2. I believe that Michael Green should be reinserted into the starting lineup, as he's much better at orchestrating the offense and his confidence seems to have returned. Brown is the better defensive player and I think is better used coming off the bench. Will be curious if Byington sees it that way going forward.
3. These Bart Torvik stats, if you scroll to the bottom, show Friedel with the highest number of points above replacement on the team, followed by Bickerstaff and Edwards: https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Jam...&year=2024

good insight 84. I see improvements with Green and agree that a return to greene starting and x off the bench might be better.

i like my man x - but on occassion he does too much offensively. much better defender than greene.