What Colorado is proposing is so dangerous to the nation that this Supreme Court should deliver an easy 9-0 decision for Trump--but it will probably be 8-1 because the most recent addition is a biased leftist moron who has never let the law or the Constitution interfere with furthering DNC political interests.
(This post was last modified: 02-08-2024 05:43 PM by Attackcoog.)
(02-08-2024 03:38 PM)gdunn Wrote: Colorado's leadership is gambling on the Popular Pact... Meaning that if enough states join in that can get enough ECs they will ignore what their citizens want and their ECs will go to whomever wins the popular vote (guess what party helped lead them in that direction).
IN short for those who are confused, if Colorado was to go for a Republican in a Presidential Election but this Pact is deemed legal and a Democrat wins the popular vote, Colorado would have unfaithful electors and they'd cast Colorado's ECs for the Dem instead of how their citizens voted. Again it only works if enough states join in that have enough ECs to elect a President (I think right now there's enough states they only have 205 ECs among those who have agreed to it.
For reference it's called the National Popular Vote Interstate Pact. Here's who's agreed to it:
1 Maryland April 10, 2007 Signed by Gov. Martin O'Malley 10
2 NJ January 13, 2008 Signed by Gov. Jon Corzine 14
3 Illinois April 7, 2008 Signed by Gov. Rod Blagojevich 19
4 Hawaii May 1, 2008 Gov. Linda Lingle 4 ** Legislation Veto by Lingle
5 WA April 28, 2009 Signed by Gov. Christine Gregoire 12
6 MA August 4, 2010 Signed by Gov. Deval Patrick 11
7 DC October 12, 2010 Signed by Mayor Adrian Fenty 3
8 Vermont April 22, 2011 Signed by Gov. Peter Shumlin 3
9 California August 8, 2011 Signed by Gov. Jerry Brown 54
10 RI July 12, 2013 Signed by Gov. Lincoln Chafee 4
11 New York April 15, 2014 Signed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo 28
12 CT May 24, 2018 Signed by Gov. Dannel Malloy 7
13 Colorado March 15, 2019 Signed by Gov. Jared Polis 10
14 Delaware March 28, 2019 Signed by Gov. John Carney 3
15 NM April 3, 2019 Signed by Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham 5
16 Oregon June 12, 2019 Signed by Gov. Kate Brown 8
17 Minnesota May 24, 2023 Signed by Gov. Tim Walz 10
Sounds like an insurrection.
regardless, he's not wrong ... I've been keepin' muh one good eye on that that one, too ...
I thought you said tanq was a good dude underneath all that BS he spewed for so long. As a mostly impartial observer, I kept looking for hints of that. Never saw it.
I thought you said tanq was is a good dude underneath all that BS he spewed for so long. As a mostly impartial observer, I kept looking for hints of that. Never saw it.
My impression is similar to Shere's.
to be fair, I have as well...
he's been quite the interesting case study over the past handful of years ... also, I don't have the weak spine ... if I dish it, I better be able to take it in return...
he knew he was diving into the pickle barrel on this board ... only he can answer why he chose that line of defense ... my best guess is the severest case of TDS coupled with his admiration of subjective law ... regardless, it was his choice to engage...
this is no different than when three of us left cous-cous ... we're now in the taste testing period ... and I'mma gonna have a fk'n blast moving forward!!!
(This post was last modified: 02-08-2024 06:42 PM by stinkfist.)
(02-08-2024 06:25 PM)TripleA Wrote: To Owl#:
I thought you said tanq was a good dude underneath all that BS he spewed for so long. As a mostly impartial observer, I kept looking for hints of that. Never saw it.
My impression is similar to Shere's.
He is a good guy. He's just let his hatred for Donald Trump take over his thinking.
I don't really understand. He's very libertarian, and I would think libertarians hat the deep state more than anyone else, but so far he hasn't gone there.
(02-08-2024 06:25 PM)TripleA Wrote: To Owl#:
I thought you said tanq was a good dude underneath all that BS he spewed for so long. As a mostly impartial observer, I kept looking for hints of that. Never saw it.
My impression is similar to Shere's.
He is a good guy. He's just let his hatred for Donald Trump take over his thinking.
I don't really understand. He's very libertarian, and I would think libertarians hat the deep state more than anyone else, but so far he hasn't gone there.
All that may be but I would guarantee he still believes he is right.
I would think a libertarian wouldn't want the government to send people to prison for making a joke
Quote:Mackey was sentenced to 7 months for posting memes that encouraged Clinton supporters to vote via text message, which is not a valid way to vote.
I dont know anyone but an idiot, democrat idiot, someone that hated Trump, that would be OK with that. Surely not a libertarian. Tang was 100% behind this man going to prison for posting this on twitter
(02-08-2024 06:51 PM)WKUYG Wrote: I would think a libertarian wouldn't want the government to send people to prison for making a joke
Quote:Mackey was sentenced to 7 months for posting memes that encouraged Clinton supporters to vote via text message, which is not a valid way to vote.
I dont know anyone but an idiot, democrat idiot, someone that hated Trump, that would be OK with that. Surely not a libertarian. Tang was 100% behind this man going to prison for posting this on twitter
yeah ... that thread went nuts (deservedly) really quick...
I'm not going to dig it up, but AM made a really good response (in treys of course) relative to the 'why' ... I've always been in the camp of C)...
(02-08-2024 03:38 PM)gdunn Wrote: Colorado's leadership is gambling on the Popular Pact... Meaning that if enough states join in that can get enough ECs they will ignore what their citizens want and their ECs will go to whomever wins the popular vote (guess what party helped lead them in that direction).
IN short for those who are confused, if Colorado was to go for a Republican in a Presidential Election but this Pact is deemed legal and a Democrat wins the popular vote, Colorado would have unfaithful electors and they'd cast Colorado's ECs for the Dem instead of how their citizens voted. Again it only works if enough states join in that have enough ECs to elect a President (I think right now there's enough states they only have 205 ECs among those who have agreed to it.
For reference it's called the National Popular Vote Interstate Pact. Here's who's agreed to it:
1 Maryland April 10, 2007 Signed by Gov. Martin O'Malley 10
2 NJ January 13, 2008 Signed by Gov. Jon Corzine 14
3 Illinois April 7, 2008 Signed by Gov. Rod Blagojevich 19
4 Hawaii May 1, 2008 Gov. Linda Lingle 4 ** Legislation Veto by Lingle
5 WA April 28, 2009 Signed by Gov. Christine Gregoire 12
6 MA August 4, 2010 Signed by Gov. Deval Patrick 11
7 DC October 12, 2010 Signed by Mayor Adrian Fenty 3
8 Vermont April 22, 2011 Signed by Gov. Peter Shumlin 3
9 California August 8, 2011 Signed by Gov. Jerry Brown 54
10 RI July 12, 2013 Signed by Gov. Lincoln Chafee 4
11 New York April 15, 2014 Signed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo 28
12 CT May 24, 2018 Signed by Gov. Dannel Malloy 7
13 Colorado March 15, 2019 Signed by Gov. Jared Polis 10
14 Delaware March 28, 2019 Signed by Gov. John Carney 3
15 NM April 3, 2019 Signed by Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham 5
16 Oregon June 12, 2019 Signed by Gov. Kate Brown 8
17 Minnesota May 24, 2023 Signed by Gov. Tim Walz 10
Sounds like an insurrection.
regardless, he's not wrong ... I've been keepin' muh one good eye on that that one, too ...
They're scared of population trends. W. gained 7 votes from reapportionment between 2000 and 2004. If 2024's split repeated 2004, the Republican would get 296 votes instead of 286. That's 17 votes in just 24 years.
(02-08-2024 03:38 PM)gdunn Wrote: Colorado's leadership is gambling on the Popular Pact... Meaning that if enough states join in that can get enough ECs they will ignore what their citizens want and their ECs will go to whomever wins the popular vote (guess what party helped lead them in that direction).
IN short for those who are confused, if Colorado was to go for a Republican in a Presidential Election but this Pact is deemed legal and a Democrat wins the popular vote, Colorado would have unfaithful electors and they'd cast Colorado's ECs for the Dem instead of how their citizens voted. Again it only works if enough states join in that have enough ECs to elect a President (I think right now there's enough states they only have 205 ECs among those who have agreed to it.
For reference it's called the National Popular Vote Interstate Pact. Here's who's agreed to it:
1 Maryland April 10, 2007 Signed by Gov. Martin O'Malley 10
2 NJ January 13, 2008 Signed by Gov. Jon Corzine 14
3 Illinois April 7, 2008 Signed by Gov. Rod Blagojevich 19
4 Hawaii May 1, 2008 Gov. Linda Lingle 4 ** Legislation Veto by Lingle
5 WA April 28, 2009 Signed by Gov. Christine Gregoire 12
6 MA August 4, 2010 Signed by Gov. Deval Patrick 11
7 DC October 12, 2010 Signed by Mayor Adrian Fenty 3
8 Vermont April 22, 2011 Signed by Gov. Peter Shumlin 3
9 California August 8, 2011 Signed by Gov. Jerry Brown 54
10 RI July 12, 2013 Signed by Gov. Lincoln Chafee 4
11 New York April 15, 2014 Signed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo 28
12 CT May 24, 2018 Signed by Gov. Dannel Malloy 7
13 Colorado March 15, 2019 Signed by Gov. Jared Polis 10
14 Delaware March 28, 2019 Signed by Gov. John Carney 3
15 NM April 3, 2019 Signed by Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham 5
16 Oregon June 12, 2019 Signed by Gov. Kate Brown 8
17 Minnesota May 24, 2023 Signed by Gov. Tim Walz 10
Sounds like an insurrection.
regardless, he's not wrong ... I've been keepin' muh one good eye on that that one, too ...
They're scared of population trends. W. gained 7 votes from reapportionment between 2000 and 2004. If 2024's split repeated 2004, the Republican would get 296 votes instead of 286. That's 17 votes in just 24 years.
one way or the other, we'll be long dead ... however, there's always been truth in, "the South will Rise Again!"
"the blood is always spilled towards the setting sun; until none is left but the darkness" - stinkfist .........................
(02-08-2024 11:38 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: The Colorado lawyer is getting roasted.
Wonder is he drinks gin?
wanna know a funny ... I was so high when I first responded to him years ago, I came up with the moniker "moonshot boy" b/c I mistook the "Q" for a "G" ... yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I still remember the early battles with ol' tanq - regardless, I still like the guy in more ways than one ... useful smart guy > useful idiot
(02-08-2024 03:38 PM)gdunn Wrote: Colorado's leadership is gambling on the Popular Pact... Meaning that if enough states join in that can get enough ECs they will ignore what their citizens want and their ECs will go to whomever wins the popular vote (guess what party helped lead them in that direction).
IN short for those who are confused, if Colorado was to go for a Republican in a Presidential Election but this Pact is deemed legal and a Democrat wins the popular vote, Colorado would have unfaithful electors and they'd cast Colorado's ECs for the Dem instead of how their citizens voted. Again it only works if enough states join in that have enough ECs to elect a President (I think right now there's enough states they only have 205 ECs among those who have agreed to it.
For reference it's called the National Popular Vote Interstate Pact. Here's who's agreed to it:
1 Maryland April 10, 2007 Signed by Gov. Martin O'Malley 10
2 NJ January 13, 2008 Signed by Gov. Jon Corzine 14
3 Illinois April 7, 2008 Signed by Gov. Rod Blagojevich 19
4 Hawaii May 1, 2008 Gov. Linda Lingle 4 ** Legislation Veto by Lingle
5 WA April 28, 2009 Signed by Gov. Christine Gregoire 12
6 MA August 4, 2010 Signed by Gov. Deval Patrick 11
7 DC October 12, 2010 Signed by Mayor Adrian Fenty 3
8 Vermont April 22, 2011 Signed by Gov. Peter Shumlin 3
9 California August 8, 2011 Signed by Gov. Jerry Brown 54
10 RI July 12, 2013 Signed by Gov. Lincoln Chafee 4
11 New York April 15, 2014 Signed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo 28
12 CT May 24, 2018 Signed by Gov. Dannel Malloy 7
13 Colorado March 15, 2019 Signed by Gov. Jared Polis 10
14 Delaware March 28, 2019 Signed by Gov. John Carney 3
15 NM April 3, 2019 Signed by Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham 5
16 Oregon June 12, 2019 Signed by Gov. Kate Brown 8
17 Minnesota May 24, 2023 Signed by Gov. Tim Walz 10
Sounds like an insurrection.
Sounds like something that's totally unconstitutional.
(02-08-2024 03:38 PM)gdunn Wrote: Colorado's leadership is gambling on the Popular Pact... Meaning that if enough states join in that can get enough ECs they will ignore what their citizens want and their ECs will go to whomever wins the popular vote (guess what party helped lead them in that direction).
IN short for those who are confused, if Colorado was to go for a Republican in a Presidential Election but this Pact is deemed legal and a Democrat wins the popular vote, Colorado would have unfaithful electors and they'd cast Colorado's ECs for the Dem instead of how their citizens voted. Again it only works if enough states join in that have enough ECs to elect a President (I think right now there's enough states they only have 205 ECs among those who have agreed to it.
For reference it's called the National Popular Vote Interstate Pact. Here's who's agreed to it:
1 Maryland April 10, 2007 Signed by Gov. Martin O'Malley 10
2 NJ January 13, 2008 Signed by Gov. Jon Corzine 14
3 Illinois April 7, 2008 Signed by Gov. Rod Blagojevich 19
4 Hawaii May 1, 2008 Gov. Linda Lingle 4 ** Legislation Veto by Lingle
5 WA April 28, 2009 Signed by Gov. Christine Gregoire 12
6 MA August 4, 2010 Signed by Gov. Deval Patrick 11
7 DC October 12, 2010 Signed by Mayor Adrian Fenty 3
8 Vermont April 22, 2011 Signed by Gov. Peter Shumlin 3
9 California August 8, 2011 Signed by Gov. Jerry Brown 54
10 RI July 12, 2013 Signed by Gov. Lincoln Chafee 4
11 New York April 15, 2014 Signed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo 28
12 CT May 24, 2018 Signed by Gov. Dannel Malloy 7
13 Colorado March 15, 2019 Signed by Gov. Jared Polis 10
14 Delaware March 28, 2019 Signed by Gov. John Carney 3
15 NM April 3, 2019 Signed by Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham 5
16 Oregon June 12, 2019 Signed by Gov. Kate Brown 8
17 Minnesota May 24, 2023 Signed by Gov. Tim Walz 10
Every one of these states should suffer some sort of punitive judgment. Every one of these governors should be on a list of communist officials operating in our own backyards.
(02-08-2024 03:38 PM)gdunn Wrote: Colorado's leadership is gambling on the Popular Pact... Meaning that if enough states join in that can get enough ECs they will ignore what their citizens want and their ECs will go to whomever wins the popular vote (guess what party helped lead them in that direction).
IN short for those who are confused, if Colorado was to go for a Republican in a Presidential Election but this Pact is deemed legal and a Democrat wins the popular vote, Colorado would have unfaithful electors and they'd cast Colorado's ECs for the Dem instead of how their citizens voted. Again it only works if enough states join in that have enough ECs to elect a President (I think right now there's enough states they only have 205 ECs among those who have agreed to it.
For reference it's called the National Popular Vote Interstate Pact. Here's who's agreed to it:
1 Maryland April 10, 2007 Signed by Gov. Martin O'Malley 10
2 NJ January 13, 2008 Signed by Gov. Jon Corzine 14
3 Illinois April 7, 2008 Signed by Gov. Rod Blagojevich 19
4 Hawaii May 1, 2008 Gov. Linda Lingle 4 ** Legislation Veto by Lingle
5 WA April 28, 2009 Signed by Gov. Christine Gregoire 12
6 MA August 4, 2010 Signed by Gov. Deval Patrick 11
7 DC October 12, 2010 Signed by Mayor Adrian Fenty 3
8 Vermont April 22, 2011 Signed by Gov. Peter Shumlin 3
9 California August 8, 2011 Signed by Gov. Jerry Brown 54
10 RI July 12, 2013 Signed by Gov. Lincoln Chafee 4
11 New York April 15, 2014 Signed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo 28
12 CT May 24, 2018 Signed by Gov. Dannel Malloy 7
13 Colorado March 15, 2019 Signed by Gov. Jared Polis 10
14 Delaware March 28, 2019 Signed by Gov. John Carney 3
15 NM April 3, 2019 Signed by Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham 5
16 Oregon June 12, 2019 Signed by Gov. Kate Brown 8
17 Minnesota May 24, 2023 Signed by Gov. Tim Walz 10
I thought you said tanq was is a good dude underneath all that BS he spewed for so long. As a mostly impartial observer, I kept looking for hints of that. Never saw it.
My impression is similar to Shere's.
to be fair, I have as well...
he's been quite the interesting case study over the past handful of years ... also, I don't have the weak spine ... if I dish it, I better be able to take it in return...
he knew he was diving into the pickle barrel on this board ... only he can answer why he chose that line of defense ... my best guess is the severest case of TDS coupled with his admiration of subjective law ... regardless, it was his choice to engage...
this is no different than when three of us left cous-cous ... we're now in the taste testing period ... and I'mma gonna have a fk'n blast moving forward!!!
I think he's probably a decent enough dude who took a beating here for having off the wall opinions, almost all of with which I disagreed. I think we put him on the defensive early on and he never adapted. He was out of his element here. I think some hubris made him think he was above the average user here and that bit him on the ass.
In the end I think he ended up in the bed he made for himself. Look at dudes like horses ass, he is wrong IMO on almost everything and he takes a lot of abuse but he keeps coming back and doesn't take it too deeply to heart. I can admire that in a man. Tanq was too sensitive for this place.
(02-08-2024 06:51 PM)WKUYG Wrote: I would think a libertarian wouldn't want the government to send people to prison for making a joke
Quote:Mackey was sentenced to 7 months for posting memes that encouraged Clinton supporters to vote via text message, which is not a valid way to vote.
I dont know anyone but an idiot, democrat idiot, someone that hated Trump, that would be OK with that. Surely not a libertarian. Tang was 100% behind this man going to prison for posting this on twitter
yeah ... that thread went nuts (deservedly) really quick...
I'm not going to dig it up, but AM made a really good response (in treys of course) relative to the 'why' ... I've always been in the camp of C)...
#fwiw
Hmmm, where is AM?? I really like that dude despite his severe TDS.