(02-13-2024 05:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 03:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 03:26 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Tanq is finally admitting he was wrong about some stuff.

As for everything after Trump was president, equal justice under the law says he gets the same treatement as his predecessors.

Obama had classified documents. He kept them in an unsecure area. Nara wanted them back. He told the to pound sand. Nara relented and allowed him to keep them in his library.

That s the same treatment that Trump should have gotten. Anything else is extreme political bias and unequal treatment under the law.

Care to point out any subpoena Obama got? Care to point out where Obama tried to subvert a Federal subpoena for the stuff?

In Obama's case -- Obama gave them back. No need for the next steps.

Maybe you missed the items where NARA took control of the Obama items. Funny that.

Quote:But these records were given to NARA in 2017, upon the end of Obama’s term, and they remain in NARA’s sole custody, in accordance with federal law. Some 30 million documents were moved to a NARA-operated facility in the Chicago area, as the agency explained in a statement Friday, but none were classified. The administration’s classified documents are stored in a separate NARA facility in the Washington, D.C., area.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-ob...9954890662

Care to point out how long Obama told them to pound sand before getting a subpoena?

Getting facts mixed up again? Obama never got a subpoena. He actually turned over the stuff to the folks who had legal right to the stuff. That is without having to get a search warrant issued for violating a subpoena. Imagine that.

Quote:By the way, be sure to tune in for Trumps case in GA on THursday where Fani Willis need to explain how long she was riding the prosecutor. Trump will be there.

I guess when all you have is suppositions and deflections, the above is the result. Fun fun fun.

Whoosh...

(02-13-2024 07:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 05:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 03:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 03:26 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Tanq is finally admitting he was wrong about some stuff.

As for everything after Trump was president, equal justice under the law says he gets the same treatement as his predecessors.

Obama had classified documents. He kept them in an unsecure area. Nara wanted them back. He told the to pound sand. Nara relented and allowed him to keep them in his library.

That s the same treatment that Trump should have gotten. Anything else is extreme political bias and unequal treatment under the law.

Care to point out any subpoena Obama got? Care to point out where Obama tried to subvert a Federal subpoena for the stuff?

In Obama's case -- Obama gave them back. No need for the next steps.

Maybe you missed the items where NARA took control of the Obama items. Funny that.

Quote:But these records were given to NARA in 2017, upon the end of Obama’s term, and they remain in NARA’s sole custody, in accordance with federal law. Some 30 million documents were moved to a NARA-operated facility in the Chicago area, as the agency explained in a statement Friday, but none were classified. The administration’s classified documents are stored in a separate NARA facility in the Washington, D.C., area.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-ob...9954890662

Care to point out how long Obama told them to pound sand before getting a subpoena?

Getting facts mixed up again? Obama never got a subpoena. He actually turned over the stuff to the folks who had legal right to the stuff. That is without having to get a search warrant issued for violating a subpoena. Imagine that.

no sh*t sherlock. Now ask yourself why he never did.

LOL, even I spotted it, it went right over his pea picking head.

(02-14-2024 12:27 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 05:49 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:53 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Look who’s back! And still wrong.

Im not the dipshit who thinks 'classified' has anything to do with the issue. Maybe read the statute wording, or the caselaw on that wording. Or not.

In a nutshell -- even if Trump says he 'declassified' them, he still has to show *some* evidence that he actually did. The Jedi - metaphysical 'declassify them with my mind' trick works on the stupid people, but not so much otherwise. But please continue.

And in a nutshell, doesnt matter if the documents are declassified or not under the circumstances.

In other news, was that you arguing for Colorado in front of the SCOTUS?

Really surprised you’re back. Ready to be bashed over the head by a bunch of 5th graders some more?

Extreme hubris will blind a person to stark reality.

(02-14-2024 07:26 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 07:24 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 11:47 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 11:36 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 11:32 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Really? Strange how outlooks become more focused when real facts emerge. Keep paying attention. Your opinion will change even further as even more facts are known.

My view hasn't changed from the beginning. I've been steadfast on saying that if I had done what they had done, or Hillary, I'd be in jail. I still believe that.

Unfortunately for your view, Trump is not like the others.

They can't conceive any world in which DJT isn't a tyrannical and insane dictator when he was anything but. His successor, the one they voted for, is closer to a dictator than Trump will ever be.

Or the fact that maybe Trump was sandwiched between two that are acting as close to dictators as we've ever seen.

They ALWAYS accuse the opposition of doing what they are actually doing.

Saul Alinsky 101.

(02-14-2024 07:53 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 05:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 03:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Care to point out any subpoena Obama got? Care to point out where Obama tried to subvert a Federal subpoena for the stuff?

In Obama's case -- Obama gave them back. No need for the next steps.

Maybe you missed the items where NARA took control of the Obama items. Funny that.


https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-ob...9954890662

Care to point out how long Obama told them to pound sand before getting a subpoena?

Getting facts mixed up again? Obama never got a subpoena. He actually turned over the stuff to the folks who had legal right to the stuff. That is without having to get a search warrant issued for violating a subpoena. Imagine that.

no sh*t sherlock. Now ask yourself why he never did.

LOL, even I spotted it, it went right over his pea picking head.

Thats how badly TDS has blinded him. Also, he still thinks the raid was about classified materials, and not some damning crossfire hurricane binder.

How quaint.

(02-14-2024 12:19 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 05:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 03:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Care to point out any subpoena Obama got? Care to point out where Obama tried to subvert a Federal subpoena for the stuff?

In Obama's case -- Obama gave them back. No need for the next steps.

Maybe you missed the items where NARA took control of the Obama items. Funny that.


https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-ob...9954890662

Care to point out how long Obama told them to pound sand before getting a subpoena?

Getting facts mixed up again? Obama never got a subpoena. He actually turned over the stuff to the folks who had legal right to the stuff. That is without having to get a search warrant issued for violating a subpoena. Imagine that.

no sh*t sherlock. Now ask yourself why he never did.

Dude walked right into it, I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

Maybe read the supplied link on what happened. That is Obama turned the docs over. Funny that. That salient difference seems to elude you all.

(02-14-2024 07:50 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 05:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 03:54 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  In summary.....

Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah,

Trump is guilty guilty guilty...

Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah,

Yea, but Trump

Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah,

AND Trump

Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah,

About the level of discourse I expect from you. Maybe you might wish to address some of the facts in the issue instead of your letter diarrhea above. Yay....

It made every bit as much sense as anything you've ever said here.

I’m sure it does to someone of your level of brainpower.

(02-14-2024 10:39 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 07:53 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 05:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Care to point out how long Obama told them to pound sand before getting a subpoena?

Getting facts mixed up again? Obama never got a subpoena. He actually turned over the stuff to the folks who had legal right to the stuff. That is without having to get a search warrant issued for violating a subpoena. Imagine that.

no sh*t sherlock. Now ask yourself why he never did.

LOL, even I spotted it, it went right over his pea picking head.

Thats how badly TDS has blinded him. Also, he still thinks the raid was about classified materials, and not some damning crossfire hurricane binder.

How quaint.

I guess you don’t recognize your inherent conspiracy wackadoodle shallow end of the pool issues. No wonder you worship Trump —- kind of a prime candidate for that cult. <slow clap>

(02-14-2024 12:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 07:50 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 05:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 03:54 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  In summary.....

Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah,

Trump is guilty guilty guilty...

Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah,

Yea, but Trump

Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah,

AND Trump

Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah,

About the level of discourse I expect from you. Maybe you might wish to address some of the facts in the issue instead of your letter diarrhea above. Yay....

It made every bit as much sense as anything you've ever said here.

I’m sure it does to someone of your level of brainpower.

Would that be a level above someone who makes up **** to respond to?

(02-14-2024 12:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 12:19 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 05:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Care to point out how long Obama told them to pound sand before getting a subpoena?

Getting facts mixed up again? Obama never got a subpoena. He actually turned over the stuff to the folks who had legal right to the stuff. That is without having to get a search warrant issued for violating a subpoena. Imagine that.

no sh*t sherlock. Now ask yourself why he never did.

Dude walked right into it, I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

Maybe read the supplied link on what happened. That is Obama turned the docs over. Funny that. That salient difference seems to elude you all.

He did not. Nara lied when they said they had all Obama classified documents at Nara in DC. They had to backtrack and say some of them were in Chicago. Because Obama, for years, told Nara to pound sand.

(02-14-2024 01:50 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 12:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 12:19 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 05:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Getting facts mixed up again? Obama never got a subpoena. He actually turned over the stuff to the folks who had legal right to the stuff. That is without having to get a search warrant issued for violating a subpoena. Imagine that.

no sh*t sherlock. Now ask yourself why he never did.

Dude walked right into it, I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

Maybe read the supplied link on what happened. That is Obama turned the docs over. Funny that. That salient difference seems to elude you all.

He did not. Nara lied when they said they had all Obama classified documents at Nara in DC. They had to backtrack and say some of them were in Chicago. Because Obama, for years, told Nara to pound sand.

Sure thing sparkles. Care to back that claim up with a source? That is a non-wackjob blog poster source......

(02-14-2024 01:55 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 01:50 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 12:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 12:19 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  no sh*t sherlock. Now ask yourself why he never did.

Dude walked right into it, I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

Maybe read the supplied link on what happened. That is Obama turned the docs over. Funny that. That salient difference seems to elude you all.

He did not. Nara lied when they said they had all Obama classified documents at Nara in DC. They had to backtrack and say some of them were in Chicago. Because Obama, for years, told Nara to pound sand.

Sure thing sparkles. Care to back that claim up with a source? That is a non-wackjob blog poster source......

lulz, thats what I thought.

He's got nothing. We all suspected and knew that.

(02-14-2024 02:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 01:55 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 01:50 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 12:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 12:19 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  Dude walked right into it, I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

Maybe read the supplied link on what happened. That is Obama turned the docs over. Funny that. That salient difference seems to elude you all.

He did not. Nara lied when they said they had all Obama classified documents at Nara in DC. They had to backtrack and say some of them were in Chicago. Because Obama, for years, told Nara to pound sand.

Sure thing sparkles. Care to back that claim up with a source? That is a non-wackjob blog poster source......

lulz, thats what I thought.

No source for your assertion above? I am looking forward to seeing it.

Again, Obama turned his docs over. When that happened no need to go the subpoena route. End of story.

Trump did not. Trump *got* the subpoena. Easy peasy.

Trump made the issue worse based on how he handled the subpoena -- but you know that, and you know that is a significant difference.

TDS is worse than any long lasting narcotic.

(02-14-2024 12:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-14-2024 12:19 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 05:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:43 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Care to point out how long Obama told them to pound sand before getting a subpoena?

Getting facts mixed up again? Obama never got a subpoena. He actually turned over the stuff to the folks who had legal right to the stuff. That is without having to get a search warrant issued for violating a subpoena. Imagine that.

no sh*t sherlock. Now ask yourself why he never did.

Dude walked right into it, I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

Maybe read the supplied link on what happened. That is Obama turned the docs over. Funny that. That salient difference seems to elude you all.

That's a nice little read there but not all true.
" Millions of unclassified documents were transferred after Obama left office to a NARA facility in Chicago.
He had all his records stored at a warehouse at the Hoffman Estates.From what I remember Obama started storing records there about 2015. Did they turn that warehouse into a NARA site/ If they did I can't find it.
Source: Chicago Tribune, 4 May 2017 - section 1 page 8.
NARA wouldn't know what was in all those boxes he had in that warehouse. Obama had so many under the table things going on. I don't see how the NARA would even know where to start.