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Bubble Watch (3/3)
ACC
Locks: UNC, Duke
Should be in: Clemson (1 win to go), Virginia (1 win to go)
Work left to do: Wake Forest, Pitt

Big 12
Locks: Houston, Iowa State, Baylor, BYU, Kansas, Texas Tech
Should be in: TCU (1 win to go), Oklahoma (1 win to go)
Work left to do: Texas, Kansas State

Big East
Locks: UConn, Marquette, Creighton
Should be in: None
Work left to do: Seton Hall, Providence, St. John's, Villanova

Big Ten
Locks: Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Should be in: None
Work left to do: Michigan State, Iowa, Ohio State

Mountain West ​
Lock: Utah State, Nevada
Should be in: SDSU (1 win to go), Boise State (1 win to go)
Work left to do: Colorado State, New Mexico

Pac-12
Locks: Arizona, Washington State
Should be in: None
Work left to do: Oregon, Colorado, Utah

SEC
Locks: Tennessee, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Florida
Should be in: None
Work left to do: Mississippi State, Ole Miss

WCC
Locks: St. Mary's, Gonzaga
Should be in: None
Work left to do: None

Others
Locks: None
Should be in: None
Work left to do: Dayton, FAU, USF, Memphis, Indiana State
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RE: Bubble Watch (3/3)
You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.
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RE: Bubble Watch (3/3)
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

Syracuse needs a lot of help. Even Virginia is squarely on the bubble. If the Cavs lose their next two they are probably out. The ACC simply hasn't been good this year (and I know the NET has the ACC 4th and Big East 5th- but no other metrics do and the eye test disagrees).

Half of the ACC is just bad and that hurts Syracuse, Wake, Pitt, and Virginia.

Syracuse still has a chance but they have to beat Clemson and win at least 2 in the ACC tournament (aka get to the final) to have a 50/50 shot.
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RE: Bubble Watch (3/3)
(03-03-2024 12:39 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

Syracuse needs a lot of help. Even Virginia is squarely on the bubble. If the Cavs lose their next two they are probably out. The ACC simply hasn't been good this year (and I know the NET has the ACC 4th and Big East 5th- but no other metrics do and the eye test disagrees).

Half of the ACC is just bad and that hurts Syracuse, Wake, Pitt, and Virginia.

Syracuse still has a chance but they have to beat Clemson and win at least 2 in the ACC tournament (aka get to the final) to have a 50/50 shot.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/
CBS has Virginia as a 10 seed. 9 seeds are the Big 12 schools-OU, TCU, Texas as well as Michigan St. Miss. St., Nebraska and Northwestern are their other 10 seeds.
Syracuse not listed. Last 4 in per CBS are Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and St. John's as the 11 seeds.
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RE: Bubble Watch (3/3)
This is why the BE has to stay at 11 for basketball so you get to play everyone 2. When you get to play some teams once and others twice you get missed matched schedules. Didn’t they play Louisville twice? The same team that lost to DePaul who is beyond bad
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I don't know why I even read this thread. Self-torture? Our year was so promising, and now it's...not. If we actually cared about basketball we'd be firing Williams about now for "not moving the program in the right direction".
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Cincinnati is ahead of K-State in the work to do category.
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RE: Bubble Watch (3/3)
(03-03-2024 12:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:39 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

Syracuse needs a lot of help. Even Virginia is squarely on the bubble. If the Cavs lose their next two they are probably out. The ACC simply hasn't been good this year (and I know the NET has the ACC 4th and Big East 5th- but no other metrics do and the eye test disagrees).

Half of the ACC is just bad and that hurts Syracuse, Wake, Pitt, and Virginia.

Syracuse still has a chance but they have to beat Clemson and win at least 2 in the ACC tournament (aka get to the final) to have a 50/50 shot.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/
CBS has Virginia as a 10 seed. 9 seeds are the Big 12 schools-OU, TCU, Texas as well as Michigan St. Miss. St., Nebraska and Northwestern are their other 10 seeds.
Syracuse not listed. Last 4 in per CBS are Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and St. John's as the 11 seeds.

To be fair, Jerry Palm is one of the worst bracketologists according to bracketmatrix so I discount him.
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RE: Bubble Watch (3/3)
(03-03-2024 12:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:39 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

Syracuse needs a lot of help. Even Virginia is squarely on the bubble. If the Cavs lose their next two they are probably out. The ACC simply hasn't been good this year (and I know the NET has the ACC 4th and Big East 5th- but no other metrics do and the eye test disagrees).

Half of the ACC is just bad and that hurts Syracuse, Wake, Pitt, and Virginia.

Syracuse still has a chance but they have to beat Clemson and win at least 2 in the ACC tournament (aka get to the final) to have a 50/50 shot.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/
CBS has Virginia as a 10 seed. 9 seeds are the Big 12 schools-OU, TCU, Texas as well as Michigan St. Miss. St., Nebraska and Northwestern are their other 10 seeds.
Syracuse not listed. Last 4 in per CBS are Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and St. John's as the 11 seeds.
CBS/Jerry Palm is a ******* idiot.
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RE: Bubble Watch (3/3)
(03-03-2024 01:52 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:39 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

Syracuse needs a lot of help. Even Virginia is squarely on the bubble. If the Cavs lose their next two they are probably out. The ACC simply hasn't been good this year (and I know the NET has the ACC 4th and Big East 5th- but no other metrics do and the eye test disagrees).

Half of the ACC is just bad and that hurts Syracuse, Wake, Pitt, and Virginia.

Syracuse still has a chance but they have to beat Clemson and win at least 2 in the ACC tournament (aka get to the final) to have a 50/50 shot.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/
CBS has Virginia as a 10 seed. 9 seeds are the Big 12 schools-OU, TCU, Texas as well as Michigan St. Miss. St., Nebraska and Northwestern are their other 10 seeds.
Syracuse not listed. Last 4 in per CBS are Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and St. John's as the 11 seeds.
CBS/Jerry Palm is a ******* idiot.

I’ve always been amazed CBS trots him out there as a face and has never replaced him. Not only does he rank among the worst, but the guy has zero charisma or camera presence.
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His problem is he does things based on what he thinks they should do instead of what they're actually going to do.
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RE: Bubble Watch (3/3)
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

It’s not just NET. Syracuse’s 79 KenPom is 25+ spots from the at-large field. An 80+ NET can be forgiven if a team is much better in KenPom, but that’s not the case for Syracuse.

shizzle is right.
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RE: Bubble Watch (3/3)
(03-03-2024 12:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:39 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

Syracuse needs a lot of help. Even Virginia is squarely on the bubble. If the Cavs lose their next two they are probably out. The ACC simply hasn't been good this year (and I know the NET has the ACC 4th and Big East 5th- but no other metrics do and the eye test disagrees).

Half of the ACC is just bad and that hurts Syracuse, Wake, Pitt, and Virginia.

Syracuse still has a chance but they have to beat Clemson and win at least 2 in the ACC tournament (aka get to the final) to have a 50/50 shot.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...cketology/
CBS has Virginia as a 10 seed. 9 seeds are the Big 12 schools-OU, TCU, Texas as well as Michigan St. Miss. St., Nebraska and Northwestern are their other 10 seeds.
Syracuse not listed. Last 4 in per CBS are Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and St. John's as the 11 seeds.

That's because Palm sucks as a bracketologist, though by percentage, he has to be right sometimes, possibly including this time.
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(03-03-2024 01:32 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  I don't know why I even read this thread. Self-torture? Our year was so promising, and now it's...not. If we actually cared about basketball we'd be firing Williams about now for "not moving the program in the right direction".

Taylor is a baller. He almost single handedly beat us at Toyota Center and certainly was the reason for the 21-point comeback. Y'all certainly looked like an NCAA Tournament team, at least that day.
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(03-03-2024 12:39 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

Syracuse needs a lot of help. Even Virginia is squarely on the bubble. If the Cavs lose their next two they are probably out. The ACC simply hasn't been good this year (and I know the NET has the ACC 4th and Big East 5th- but no other metrics do and the eye test disagrees).

Half of the ACC is just bad and that hurts Syracuse, Wake, Pitt, and Virginia.

Syracuse still has a chance but they have to beat Clemson and win at least 2 in the ACC tournament (aka get to the final) to have a 50/50 shot.

Half the ACC is bad yet they were 9-3 vs the Big12
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(03-03-2024 04:21 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:39 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

Syracuse needs a lot of help. Even Virginia is squarely on the bubble. If the Cavs lose their next two they are probably out. The ACC simply hasn't been good this year (and I know the NET has the ACC 4th and Big East 5th- but no other metrics do and the eye test disagrees).

Half of the ACC is just bad and that hurts Syracuse, Wake, Pitt, and Virginia.

Syracuse still has a chance but they have to beat Clemson and win at least 2 in the ACC tournament (aka get to the final) to have a 50/50 shot.

Half the ACC is bad yet they were 9-3 vs the Big12

but then against all P5+BE teams they were only 29-31. So only 20-28 vs all the other power conferences. That's not good.
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Not good but not terrible. Below average at worst and when you add in their record against B-12, they become average. Leaving the Big 12 number out moves the goalposts of the argument.
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(03-03-2024 02:45 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

It’s not just NET. Syracuse’s 79 KenPom is 25+ spots from the at-large field. An 80+ NET can be forgiven if a team is much better in KenPom, but that’s not the case for Syracuse.

shizzle is right.

I haven't check lately but Cuse has an RPI around 28-30.
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(03-03-2024 04:29 PM)C2__ Wrote:  Not good but not terrible. Below average at worst and when you add in their record against B-12, they become average. Leaving the Big 12 number out moves the goalposts of the argument.

That includes the Big 12 number. That's vs all power conferences.
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(03-03-2024 05:22 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 02:45 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-03-2024 12:27 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You forgot Syracuse

You realize NET isn't the end all, be all?

Cuse at Clemson will obviously be huge for the Orange on Tuesday.

It’s not just NET. Syracuse’s 79 KenPom is 25+ spots from the at-large field. An 80+ NET can be forgiven if a team is much better in KenPom, but that’s not the case for Syracuse.

shizzle is right.

I haven't check lately but Cuse has an RPI around 28-30.

problem for Syracuse is only 1 win vs a sure fire NCAA tourney team. Only 2 vs Q1 opposition.

Need to beat Clemson and then in the ACC tourney not lose right away.
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