(03-05-2024 03:57 PM)LeeNobody Wrote:  I believe that the "buyout" (exit fee plus buying back GOR) would be as follows:
2025: $757 mill
2026: $716 mill
2027: $673 mill
2028: $628 mill
2029: $581 mill
2030: $532 mill
2031: $482 mill
2032: $423 mill
2033: $369 mill
2034: $314 mill
2035: $255 mill
2036: $194 mill
Exit fee is 130 million, plus an estimated year broadcast of 40 million. ACC could likely argue for damages as a result of FSU breaking the contract ,but I'd say that is the floor of ACC "buyout" numbers by year.

I think FSU can "afford" the deal in 2030 not before then

I updated my numbers as I had not factored in the ACC contract escalator think I will split this off with rational on how I came up with year by year

(03-05-2024 04:56 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 03:14 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  April 9 will be the first hearing for Florida State’s suit filed in Leon County, Florida. Judge John C. Cooper will hear the ACC’s call for a dismiss or stay in the case which was filed on Feb. 16.

Florida State's motion will be heard on March 22 in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina.

Should Judge Cooper grant the ACC’s stay request in the Leon County case, then the lawsuit filed in North Carolina by the ACC will serve as the final say as the precedent will have been set.

https://www.si.com/college/fsu/football/...su-lawsuit

ACC should be granted the dismissal because the state of Florida they will not have a fair verdict.

Do you think it will be any more fair in North Carolina?

I always thought any case like this should be heard in a neutral site, if at all possible.

(03-05-2024 05:11 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 05:01 PM)LeeNobody Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 04:52 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 04:44 PM)Blust3 Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 01:00 PM)XLance Wrote:  With Florida State already on the ropes on the legal front, one has to wonder what is their limit.
At what point will the cost to leave be "Too High"?

Will the 'Noles be stuck in the ACC for the foreseeable future?

Could FSU come up with $800 Million, $1 Billion, or more and would they be able to make it back over the next 12 years?

They should read the contract closely before they signed it. They are stuck until 2036. It is too costly to get out legally. Better just settled with what they have.

Surprising as it may seem to sports fans, 'I hoodwinked ya fair and square, you shoulda read the fine print sucka' is not an argument that goes far under fair trade law.

When the grant of rights is until 2036 but the media contract is only until 2027, issues of consideration and mutuality come up.

We'll see what happens.

Not that this hasn't been said elsewhere but the GOR grants all members broadcast rights to the ACC to negotiate a broadcast agreement. If The option of ESPN exists and is not renewed, congratulations. ACC gets to go to the open market. Florida State gets to reap the increased media value of all the ACC.

If this happens, that would be bad for the ACC. The ACC is in a no win situation with ESPN. ESPN has all the inventory it needs through the SEC, they could drop the ACC and the ACC with hat in hand will have to come back and accept any deal. Perhaps the only protection the ACC can get is to fill a need in the late night time slot. I advise grabbing OSU, WSU, BSU and SDSU to form a western division.

Now that is a first class troll post

(03-05-2024 01:02 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 01:00 PM)XLance Wrote:  With Florida State already on the ropes on the legal front, one has to wonder what is their limit.
At what point will the cost to leave be "Too High"?

Will the 'Noles be stuck in the ACC for the foreseeable future?

Could FSU come up with $800 Million, $1 Billion, or more and would they be able to make it back over the next 12 years?

Troll thread.

Mods should delete this.

Someone could start a thread asking why the ACC doesn't just disband since they are in such trouble.

Why -- because you don't like it? He's asking a legitimate (if unlikely) question.

(03-06-2024 04:51 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 01:02 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 01:00 PM)XLance Wrote:  With Florida State already on the ropes on the legal front, one has to wonder what is their limit.
At what point will the cost to leave be "Too High"?

Will the 'Noles be stuck in the ACC for the foreseeable future?

Could FSU come up with $800 Million, $1 Billion, or more and would they be able to make it back over the next 12 years?

Troll thread.

Mods should delete this.

Someone could start a thread asking why the ACC doesn't just disband since they are in such trouble.

Why -- because you don't like it? He's asking a legitimate (if unlikely) question.

His first sentence is simply a troll assumption that is not true. (FSU on the ropes)
Its a trolling effort. Nothing else.

(03-06-2024 04:51 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 01:02 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 01:00 PM)XLance Wrote:  With Florida State already on the ropes on the legal front, one has to wonder what is their limit.
At what point will the cost to leave be "Too High"?

Will the 'Noles be stuck in the ACC for the foreseeable future?

Could FSU come up with $800 Million, $1 Billion, or more and would they be able to make it back over the next 12 years?

Troll thread.

Mods should delete this.

Someone could start a thread asking why the ACC doesn't just disband since they are in such trouble.

Why -- because you don't like it? He's asking a legitimate (if unlikely) question.

It's going to stand as an OP. Whether it was intended as a troll, which is not out of the poster's repertoire, is irrelevant. The issue represents the other side of the possible outcomes. FSU could win and the ACC reach a threshold as to what was the least destructive or the other way around. Just remember there are myriad points in-between those two extremes. Landing on one of them seems far more likely for a number of reasons than either side simply winning, and one outside of that spectrum. The courts themselves could impose a remedy with something as broadly impactful as the potential of the Johnson case.

In the interim cease the turf protecting and engage the subject. Make the OP serious whether it was intended to be or not.

(03-06-2024 06:59 AM)Pat125 Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 04:56 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  ACC should be granted the dismissal because the state of Florida they will not have a fair verdict.

Do you think it will be any more fair in North Carolina?

I always thought any case like this should be heard in a neutral site, if at all possible.

Existing statutes and ACC by-laws already address the matter of jurisdiction in disputes.