(03-24-2024 11:24 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 06:19 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  And on the flipside, it's better (imo) to get players from out of the area because they don't have a connection to the Memphis hood thugs

Winning with Memphis players can be done. You just have to run a tight ship. Something Finch, Pastner or Penny haven’t done. If Calipari took a Memphis kid. He didn’t take $*!t off anyone.

That being said. I question how good Memphis talent really has been over the last 30 years. How many actual Memphis kids have made an huge impact on the NBA or even high level college basketball?

Finch didn't win with Memphis players? Checking the 85 final four team revels 9 Memphis players.

(03-24-2024 11:43 AM)passat25 Wrote:  

(03-23-2024 08:44 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  And so begins FAU’s descent back to obscurity. Think Penny has a shot at their big? He was talking to him after our last game vs them.

Goldin would be a great coup.. but I won't believe it until I see him in a Tigers uniform.

(03-23-2024 09:55 PM)fsquid Wrote:  was only a matter of time. Didn't even think about Michigan as a spot for him.

I am surprised Michigan put up with Howard this long after all his antics and sh*t.. Dusty May is gone, but all it matters is making it to the NCAA regardless of the conference.. As long as you dominate the conference, the rest is "noise".

Penny just need to fix his sh*t.. He did all the right things.. Played a strong OOC schedule, but something went wrong after Mills got injured and the late arrival of Tomlin.

BS, we were winning in spite of ourselves. And when faced with real competition Penny stumbled and under-achieved, just like he has every season since he's been here. Penny knows what's wrong, his ego won't allow him to admit his mistakes and fix them.

(03-24-2024 12:03 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 12:01 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  I don’t want hand me downs anymore. I want Memphis kids with heart. I’ll even give penny a couple extra years as long as the kids play memphis basketball and fight like hell. Watching kam jones dominate right now for Marquette. There’s always a memphis kid in this tournament showing out. Without a tiger Jersey on.

I am of the belief that you could never leave Shelby county and field a team to at least match the relevance we have been at the past 6 years

Agreed.

(03-24-2024 03:00 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 02:48 PM)Antonio5fan Wrote:  

(03-23-2024 09:01 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Losing good coaches now
Sh!tty as$ conference

Looks bad for Memphis when they can't dominate a conference like AAC.

dude, it was one year.

Out of the 6 years he's been here which one was a resounding success? Our one NCAA appearance that we made it past the first weekend?

Any conventional coach could have done much more with the talent we've seen come in and out of the program over the last 6 years.

(03-24-2024 04:15 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  One thing I gave up a long time ago is caring what other people think about me or anything I love — one of those loves being Memphis.

I’ve got Memphis DNA—plus a smidgeon of northern Mississippi and the Arkansas hills.

Man…do I love that freakin river. And the Memphis music!

Shitt , who doesn’t get chills when they think of the origin of the name ‘Memphis’ and the ancient Egyptian myths .

Meh… enough of this sentimental stuff…Memphis has my heart. Period.

I root for the city, the university, the athletic department… especially BB! There is no place like Memphis town when it comes together in joy…or even sorrow lol.. BB does this for the people and the whole city—it transcends all boundaries of race, religion, gender, politics, economic status.

Penny knows this. He was born here. His goal is to achieve these moments of unity for all of us while providing leadership and training for future professional athletes while juggling the changes. He’s got my energy and support.

Get a grip, folks. Conferences are disintegrating and college athletics is in major flux. The guys at the top get more money than we can imagine.

Gonna be a bumpy ass ride before this settles down some. Players get paid.. some are unionizing. Plus they can come and go whenever and wherever— some even sell themselves to the highest bidder.



Criticizing our main coaches( Penny and Silverfield) is just not my bag, lol. It takes energy away from the ultimate goals.

Go Tigers Go!

You seem to be hanging on to some romanticized version of Memphis. That city no longer exists.

Unfortunately, it appears FAU will likely revert to norm. They have a low major gym and no plan to significantly improve or replace it according to FAU posters. Adequate facilities is a prerequisite for sustainable success

(03-25-2024 06:46 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 04:15 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  One thing I gave up a long time ago is caring what other people think about me or anything I love — one of those loves being Memphis.

I’ve got Memphis DNA—plus a smidgeon of northern Mississippi and the Arkansas hills.

Man…do I love that freakin river. And the Memphis music!

Shitt , who doesn’t get chills when they think of the origin of the name ‘Memphis’ and the ancient Egyptian myths .

Meh… enough of this sentimental stuff…Memphis has my heart. Period.

I root for the city, the university, the athletic department… especially BB! There is no place like Memphis town when it comes together in joy…or even sorrow lol.. BB does this for the people and the whole city—it transcends all boundaries of race, religion, gender, politics, economic status.

Penny knows this. He was born here. His goal is to achieve these moments of unity for all of us while providing leadership and training for future professional athletes while juggling the changes. He’s got my energy and support.

Get a grip, folks. Conferences are disintegrating and college athletics is in major flux. The guys at the top get more money than we can imagine.

Gonna be a bumpy ass ride before this settles down some. Players get paid.. some are unionizing. Plus they can come and go whenever and wherever— some even sell themselves to the highest bidder.



Criticizing our main coaches( Penny and Silverfield) is just not my bag, lol. It takes energy away from the ultimate goals.

Go Tigers Go!

You seem to be hanging on to some romanticized version of Memphis. That city no longer exists.

My siblings and cousins nieces and nephews live there— various places from midtown to East to north of Summer to near the campus around Park Avenue. No problems

And they have lived there for decades.

I live in Lexington.

I think here’s how things go down today:

The AD here (Barnhart) will tell Cal today if he wants to stay, that he must make changes that Calipari’s pride won’t let him be able to stomach. Things like forced staff firings and replacements he won’t have final approval to hire, including people hired to specialize in oversight of both practice and game coaching that he’ll be told he isn’t doing well enough (and even oversight of his schedule regarding when he’s at work — i.e., when and how often he’s physically at UK in his office, etc.) In other words, changes that will restrict his freedom to be Cal— unaccountable to anyone.

His ego cannot let him agree to anything like that.

I actually think the AD is so confident Cal won’t go for it, that there’s another coach hire already desired by the AD (with mutual interest already having been confirmed) that will be announced within the next two days to replace Cal.

Don’t want to act like I know for certain who that new coach will be, because I don’t. Can’t tell you I’m positive about what I wrote above. Just my gut. Have zero sources. Don’t have any friends in the know.

So everything I’m saying here could be completely wrong.

And if Calipari does his final UK radio show tonight, then everything above is out the window. But if an assistant does it, then I think what I wrote is the likely scenario.

And apologies in advance to anyone who replies they couldn’t care less anymore about anything to do with Calipari. I get it.

Who knows? Louisville might be where Cal is coaching next year. What a hoot that would be for UK fans.

I was just thinking through Louisville for Cal. Following his hero's footsteps once again. That would fit at many different levels.
Revenge to the UK admin
A storied program that is downtrodden
Louisville booster pride
ACC would fit Cal better
And Pitino!

(03-25-2024 06:13 AM)Coogin it Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 11:24 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 06:19 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  And on the flipside, it's better (imo) to get players from out of the area because they don't have a connection to the Memphis hood thugs

Winning with Memphis players can be done. You just have to run a tight ship. Something Finch, Pastner or Penny haven’t done. If Calipari took a Memphis kid. He didn’t take $*!t off anyone.

That being said. I question how good Memphis talent really has been over the last 30 years. How many actual Memphis kids have made an huge impact on the NBA or even high level college basketball?

Finch didn't win with Memphis players? Checking the 85 final four team revels 9 Memphis players.

85 was Dana Kirk I believe...I was young then but I think that's right. Finch never made a final 4. He did have 1 elite 8 and a couple sweet 16's. But his overall results were much like Penny's. Under performed with great talent. Would pull of big upsets and then lose to bad teams a week later. Take top 10 teams to the tournament and lose to Western Kentucky and Drexel.

(03-25-2024 10:16 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Unfortunately, it appears FAU will likely revert to norm. They have a low major gym and no plan to significantly improve or replace it according to FAU posters. Adequate facilities is a prerequisite for sustainable success

No insult to FAU, but they were the biggest head scratcher of every new conference addition from CUSA. I'd much rather have had La Tech or Ark. State.

Finch's first year was 86-87 season. We were on probation and made sure no Metro Conference team went dancing.

(03-25-2024 11:40 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Finch's first year was 86-87 season. We were on probation and made sure no Metro Conference team went dancing.

I remember that. That was one fun conference tournament. Man I miss the old metro conference.

(03-25-2024 06:13 AM)Coogin it Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 11:24 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 06:19 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  And on the flipside, it's better (imo) to get players from out of the area because they don't have a connection to the Memphis hood thugs

Winning with Memphis players can be done. You just have to run a tight ship. Something Finch, Pastner or Penny haven’t done. If Calipari took a Memphis kid. He didn’t take $*!t off anyone.

That being said. I question how good Memphis talent really has been over the last 30 years. How many actual Memphis kids have made an huge impact on the NBA or even high level college basketball?

Finch didn't win with Memphis players? Checking the 85 final four team revels 9 Memphis players.

He did but he stopped getting them and that’s when he got fired. And it’s radically different now

(03-25-2024 11:37 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 10:16 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Unfortunately, it appears FAU will likely revert to norm. They have a low major gym and no plan to significantly improve or replace it according to FAU posters. Adequate facilities is a prerequisite for sustainable success

No insult to FAU, but they were the biggest head scratcher of every new conference addition from CUSA. I'd much rather have had La Tech or Ark. State.

Miami metro over Jonesboogie or Ruston

(03-25-2024 11:37 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 10:16 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Unfortunately, it appears FAU will likely revert to norm. They have a low major gym and no plan to significantly improve or replace it according to FAU posters. Adequate facilities is a prerequisite for sustainable success

No insult to FAU, but they were the biggest head scratcher of every new conference addition from CUSA. I'd much rather have had La Tech or Ark. State.

Well....their location in Boca Raton IS pretty sweet....

(03-25-2024 11:44 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 11:40 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Finch's first year was 86-87 season. We were on probation and made sure no Metro Conference team went dancing.

I remember that. That was one fun conference tournament. Man I miss the old metro conference.

Went to the one in Biloxi. Tulane was just coming off probation and Perry Clark’s team had won maybe 4 or 5 games. When you came into the arena they were passing out Pom poms in various colors. All of the Memphis State fans got a powder blue and green one because Tulane was playing Louisville in the 1st round. Green Wave had more people cheering for them that day than they usually have at home games.

It would have been so awesome had that league sponsored football and held together, added the U, West VA and maybe ECU in the late 80s. Would’ve changed the fate of Tiger athletics forever.

(03-25-2024 12:00 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 06:13 AM)Coogin it Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 11:24 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 06:19 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  And on the flipside, it's better (imo) to get players from out of the area because they don't have a connection to the Memphis hood thugs

Winning with Memphis players can be done. You just have to run a tight ship. Something Finch, Pastner or Penny haven’t done. If Calipari took a Memphis kid. He didn’t take $*!t off anyone.

That being said. I question how good Memphis talent really has been over the last 30 years. How many actual Memphis kids have made an huge impact on the NBA or even high level college basketball?

Finch didn't win with Memphis players? Checking the 85 final four team revels 9 Memphis players.

He did but he stopped getting them and that’s when he got fired. And it’s radically different now

bigd said he didn't.

You guys appear to make stuff up to put your team and coach down. You guys didn't use to do that but it's radically different now.

(03-25-2024 12:30 PM)Coogin it Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 12:00 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 06:13 AM)Coogin it Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 11:24 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 06:19 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  And on the flipside, it's better (imo) to get players from out of the area because they don't have a connection to the Memphis hood thugs

Winning with Memphis players can be done. You just have to run a tight ship. Something Finch, Pastner or Penny haven’t done. If Calipari took a Memphis kid. He didn’t take $*!t off anyone.

That being said. I question how good Memphis talent really has been over the last 30 years. How many actual Memphis kids have made an huge impact on the NBA or even high level college basketball?

Finch didn't win with Memphis players? Checking the 85 final four team revels 9 Memphis players.

He did but he stopped getting them and that’s when he got fired. And it’s radically different now

bigd said he didn't.

You guys appear to make stuff up to put your team and coach down. You guys didn't use to do that but it's radically different now.

Finch did have success with Memphis players. But it was very sporadic and inconsistent due to the nature of coaching local kids and having to deal with egos and family input always messing with team chemistry and creating a toxic environment.

I don’t have to make anything up about Tiger basketball. I have lived and breathed it for over 40 years.

(03-25-2024 12:00 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 06:13 AM)Coogin it Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 11:24 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-24-2024 06:19 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  And on the flipside, it's better (imo) to get players from out of the area because they don't have a connection to the Memphis hood thugs

Winning with Memphis players can be done. You just have to run a tight ship. Something Finch, Pastner or Penny haven’t done. If Calipari took a Memphis kid. He didn’t take $*!t off anyone.

That being said. I question how good Memphis talent really has been over the last 30 years. How many actual Memphis kids have made an huge impact on the NBA or even high level college basketball?

Finch didn't win with Memphis players? Checking the 85 final four team revels 9 Memphis players.

He did but he stopped getting them and that’s when he got fired. And it’s radically different now

I’m not sure it was the catalyst but when he lost…
Corey Bradford to Illinois (Big 10 Freshman of Year)
Robert O’Kelley to Wake Forest (ACC Freshman of Year)
Tony Harris to UT (SEC Freshman of the Year)
… it seemed to be the end of Larry’s tenure at Memphis.