(04-02-2024 08:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-02-2024 08:33 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-02-2024 08:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  We have an aging fan base without a young group of fans to replace them. We have not been on a city captivating NCAA run in 15 years, and the Grizzlies have filled that space with younger fans… and Covid & crime have only hastened the exodus of the “gray” crew.

The program desperately needs to turn it around or the slide is only going to accelerate. The athletic department needs to make student involvement & attendance a priority & possibly even move more student seats from the rafters to the court-side. These are the future rebounders & supporters & an investment must be made.

Jesus isn’t coming back to coach basketball, football, be a booster or the mayor of Memphis

someone needs to raise this program from the dead, and it sure doesn’t appear to be Penny.

Like I said there’s no savior out there. Lots of programs with tradition are having issues. UCLA , Indiana, Louisville, Georgetown come to mind. All either hired a mid major guy or a retread

(04-02-2024 08:39 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-02-2024 08:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-02-2024 08:33 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-02-2024 08:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  We have an aging fan base without a young group of fans to replace them. We have not been on a city captivating NCAA run in 15 years, and the Grizzlies have filled that space with younger fans… and Covid & crime have only hastened the exodus of the “gray” crew.

The program desperately needs to turn it around or the slide is only going to accelerate. The athletic department needs to make student involvement & attendance a priority & possibly even move more student seats from the rafters to the court-side. These are the future rebounders & supporters & an investment must be made.

Jesus isn’t coming back to coach basketball, football, be a booster or the mayor of Memphis

someone needs to raise this program from the dead, and it sure doesn’t appear to be Penny.

Like I said there’s no savior out there. Lots of programs with tradition are having issues. UCLA , Indiana, Louisville, Georgetown come to mind. All either hired a mid major guy or a retread

and none have stuck with the middling results we’ve accepted without making a change; and all…expect our twin program, Georgetown… have made Sweet 16 runs since we made our last in 2009. We’ve just been unable to overcome 3 consecutive mediocre hires.

(04-01-2024 05:02 PM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 04:01 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 11:55 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  Tickets sold averaged 12,276. No way that turnstile can be half of that.

Tickets "distributed" averaged 12k and why could it not be?

I find it unbelievable that 12k folks will buy tickets and half not show up for each game. That logic doesn't work with me. I'd like to see an audit of the scanning machines.

The University is allowed to ask for that per the contract.

If you were at the games you’d know the place wasn’t half full for most games.

(04-02-2024 04:12 PM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  If you were at the games you’d know the place wasn’t half full for most games.

was there for every game, except USF. 12k announced always seem about right to me.

(04-02-2024 08:20 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 07:57 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 10:02 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  That game we lost to USF where they told everyone to stay home because of ice & the subsequent home loss to Rice will kill the turnstile average

Tigers and Grizz agreed not to count that game.

what's hurting us is having to count exhibition games towards the total because the AAC plays a 20 game conf schedule now and when we signed the deal with FEF we were in CUSA with a 16 game conf schedule.

getting 17 home games while maintaining a tough OOC schedule and a 20 game AAC schedule is near impossible.

I think the AAC is only 18 games.

I remember talk of going to 20 with the new teams...glad to hear it's still 18

(04-02-2024 08:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-02-2024 08:20 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 07:57 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 10:02 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  That game we lost to USF where they told everyone to stay home because of ice & the subsequent home loss to Rice will kill the turnstile average

Tigers and Grizz agreed not to count that game.

what's hurting us is having to count exhibition games towards the total because the AAC plays a 20 game conf schedule now and when we signed the deal with FEF we were in CUSA with a 16 game conf schedule.

getting 17 home games while maintaining a tough OOC schedule and a 20 game AAC schedule is near impossible.

I think the AAC is only 18 games.

I remember talk of going to 20 with the new teams...glad to hear it's still 18

I haven't heard anything about 20 games.

(04-02-2024 08:32 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-02-2024 08:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-02-2024 08:20 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 07:57 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 10:02 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  That game we lost to USF where they told everyone to stay home because of ice & the subsequent home loss to Rice will kill the turnstile average

Tigers and Grizz agreed not to count that game.

what's hurting us is having to count exhibition games towards the total because the AAC plays a 20 game conf schedule now and when we signed the deal with FEF we were in CUSA with a 16 game conf schedule.

getting 17 home games while maintaining a tough OOC schedule and a 20 game AAC schedule is near impossible.

I think the AAC is only 18 games.

I remember talk of going to 20 with the new teams...glad to hear it's still 18

I haven't heard anything about 20 games.

and you are 100% right, sir...my memory apparently sucks. It was the COVID season we went to a 20 game schedule. I guess these gummies work better than I thought lol

(04-02-2024 06:44 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 06:00 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  The conference is a real downer - after fighting for years to finally rise about and out of CUSA - we're as bad off as we've ever been regarding conference affiliation.

The current AAC is worse than CUSA 1.0 and about the same as CUSA after getting left behind there.

Some people don't care but a whole lot of people do care.

It’s a lot more than the conference

For me it's a LOT more than the conference. Playing in such a bad conference should assure us of going dancing year after year. That was Cal's mindset anyway, and I agree. Wait, no I don't, I would have 15 -20 years ago when we were relevant. Now we aren't as good as half the teams in our conference.

(04-02-2024 08:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  We have an aging fan base without a young group of fans to replace them. We have not been on a city captivating NCAA run in 15 years, and the Grizzlies have filled that space with younger fans… and Covid & crime have only hastened the exodus of the “gray” crew.

The program desperately needs to turn it around or the slide is only going to accelerate. The athletic department needs to make student involvement & attendance a priority & possibly even move more student seats from the rafters to the court-side. These are the future rebounders & supporters & an investment must be made.

You're not wrong.

yea, Mensa makes great points. Maybe with the reconfiguration of the FEF seating bowl, we can find the right balance.

(04-02-2024 08:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  We have an aging fan base without a young group of fans to replace them. We have not been on a city captivating NCAA run in 15 years, and the Grizzlies have filled that space with younger fans… and Covid & crime have only hastened the exodus of the “gray” crew.

The program desperately needs to turn it around or the slide is only going to accelerate. The athletic department needs to make student involvement & attendance a priority & possibly even move more student seats from the rafters to the court-side. These are the future rebounders & supporters & an investment must be made.

NCAA tourney runs are the only way to grow a new fanbase. Prolly gotta wait a few more years for that to happen if at all.

(04-01-2024 05:02 PM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 04:01 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 11:55 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  Tickets sold averaged 12,276. No way that turnstile can be half of that.

Tickets "distributed" averaged 12k and why could it not be?

I find it unbelievable that 12k folks will buy tickets and half not show up for each game. That logic doesn't work with me. I'd like to see an audit of the scanning machines.

I couldn't give away game tickets I didn't use.

(04-02-2024 08:55 PM)fsquid Wrote:  yea, Mensa makes great points. Maybe with the reconfiguration of the FEF seating bowl, we can find the right balance.

I never understood why that arena was built like that.

The only thing I can add to this discussion is my observation being at the Austin Peay game this year.

There were about 4,000 (maybe) in attendance that night. I just checked the box score and it says the attendance was 12,018.

(04-03-2024 10:27 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 05:02 PM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 04:01 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-01-2024 11:55 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  Tickets sold averaged 12,276. No way that turnstile can be half of that.

Tickets "distributed" averaged 12k and why could it not be?

I find it unbelievable that 12k folks will buy tickets and half not show up for each game. That logic doesn't work with me. I'd like to see an audit of the scanning machines.

I couldn't give away game tickets I didn't use.

I'll help you friend

I went to a few games this year. After every game, there was at least one car in the parking lot with windows smashed in. I think you'll see an even bigger fall off in attendance next year (most of our premier OOC games are away, the conference is weaker, and fans are pretty disconnected from and disappointed in the program).

Always long lines to get in arena

(04-03-2024 01:43 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  I went to a few games this year. After every game, there was at least one car in the parking lot with windows smashed in. I think you'll see an even bigger fall off in attendance next year (most of our premier OOC games are away, the conference is weaker, and fans are pretty disconnected from and disappointed in the program).

I park in the parking garage every Tiger home game and almost every Home Grizzlies game - in 20 years I have NEVER seen a window smashed in

(04-03-2024 02:34 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(04-03-2024 01:43 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  I went to a few games this year. After every game, there was at least one car in the parking lot with windows smashed in. I think you'll see an even bigger fall off in attendance next year (most of our premier OOC games are away, the conference is weaker, and fans are pretty disconnected from and disappointed in the program).

I park in the parking garage every Tiger home game and almost every Home Grizzlies game - in 20 years I have NEVER seen a window smashed in

So you’re saying he’s lying ?