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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

I don’t see how it’s possible for this to be what is calendar wise. The first round of the CFP is like two weeks after championship weekend. There’s no way to have a playoff in that time.

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 AM)Trekker41 Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...firms/amp/

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

(04-24-2024 08:25 AM)7 Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 AM)Trekker41 Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...firms/amp/

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

I don’t see how it’s possible for this to be what is calendar wise. The first round of the CFP is like two weeks after championship weekend. There’s no way to have a playoff in that time.

No championship games. 8 pods of 8. Winner of the pod goes to the play - in. You could do it. 7 in pod games. 4 out of pod. You would even get a week off before the playoff.

Something needs to happen, also don't mind the NIT-style P5+G5 idea, if the G5 gets a nice big chunk of that $. (yes I know STF proposed that idea, he's still a poor AD)

If the money is significant I would be for it.

The perfect scenario for me is to have the P5 playoff take teams 1-16 and then the NIT tourney take teams 17-24 and the top 8 G5 teams. Thats kind of where the top G5 at their best can perform...right around that 20th ranked team.

You get some really big names in your NIT tourney and a great opportunity to make some money. It would have to be a lot of money to entice the P5 teams to take part. Maybe give them home field for the revenue and fans. IDK. make it work somehow.

(04-24-2024 08:58 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 AM)Trekker41 Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...firms/amp/

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

(04-24-2024 08:25 AM)7 Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 AM)Trekker41 Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...firms/amp/

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

I don’t see how it’s possible for this to be what is calendar wise. The first round of the CFP is like two weeks after championship weekend. There’s no way to have a playoff in that time.

No championship games. 8 pods of 8. Winner of the pod goes to the play - in. You could do it. 7 in pod games. 4 out of pod. You would even get a week off before the playoff.

But then the G5 teams beat each other up during a G5 playoff to then show up in the main CFP with a squad that has more injuries? It's hard enough for G5 to compete against Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, etc. with a healthy squad. If the big schools have injuries they just plug another 4 or 5-star player in his place. NIU losses a starting QB and now we're rolling with someone at QB who had no other offers and doesn't have the experience or natural talent to play against an Alabama defense.

This scenario reminds me of our last game vs. Ohio State. Ohio State played like 3 QBs against us but because we had an inexperienced QB we couldn't move the ball or score despite the NIU defense getting 3 interceptions and 2 fumble recoveries.

(04-24-2024 03:32 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 12:43 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 08:58 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 AM)Trekker41 Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...firms/amp/

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

(04-24-2024 08:25 AM)7 Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

I don’t see how it’s possible for this to be what is calendar wise. The first round of the CFP is like two weeks after championship weekend. There’s no way to have a playoff in that time.

No championship games. 8 pods of 8. Winner of the pod goes to the play - in. You could do it. 7 in pod games. 4 out of pod. You would even get a week off before the playoff.

But then the G5 teams beat each other up during a G5 playoff to then show up in the main CFP with a squad that has more injuries? It's hard enough for G5 to compete against Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, etc. with a healthy squad. If the big schools have injuries they just plug another 4 or 5-star player in his place. NIU losses a starting QB and now we're rolling with someone at QB who had no other offers and doesn't have the experience or natural talent to play against an Alabama defense.

This scenario reminds me of our last game vs. Ohio State. Ohio State played like 3 QBs against us but because we had an inexperienced QB we couldn't move the ball or score despite the NIU defense getting 3 interceptions and 2 fumble recoveries.

Not sure what you're talking about with the inexperienced QB comment. In the 2015 game against O$U, we had Drew Hare at QB. Hare was one of the better QBs we've had at NIU. Hare's stats from the previous year (2014): 194-326-2322 yds. 18 TDs and only 2 picks. Hare led us to a MAC Championship that year. In 2015: 164-257-1962 yds. 14 TDs and only 4 picks.

(04-24-2024 03:35 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 03:32 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 12:43 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  [quote='BigChilla' pid='19575455' dateline='1713967101']
No championship games. 8 pods of 8. Winner of the pod goes to the play - in. You could do it. 7 in pod games. 4 out of pod. You would even get a week off before the playoff.

But then the G5 teams beat each other up during a G5 playoff to then show up in the main CFP with a squad that has more injuries? It's hard enough for G5 to compete against Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, etc. with a healthy squad. If the big schools have injuries they just plug another 4 or 5-star player in his place. NIU losses a starting QB and now we're rolling with someone at QB who had no other offers and doesn't have the experience or natural talent to play against an Alabama defense.

This scenario reminds me of our last game vs. Ohio State. Ohio State played like 3 QBs against us but because we had an inexperienced QB we couldn't move the ball or score despite the NIU defense getting 3 interceptions and 2 fumble recoveries.

Not sure what you're talking about with the inexperienced QB comment. In the 2015 game against O$U, we had Drew Hare at QB. Hare was one of the better QBs we've had at NIU. Hare's stats from the previous year (2014): 194-326-2322 yds. 18 TDs and only 2 picks. Hare led us to a MAC Championship that year. In 2015: 164-257-1962 yds. 14 TDs and only 4 picks.

Sorry, I was thinking 2015 was his first year starting. Looking at his stats vs Ohio State, he sucked that game. 80 yards and 2 INTs passing. Look at what happened the next season after Drew Hare got injured. NIU had a losing record and lost to an FCS. We played Anthony Maddie and Ryan Graham.

Nonetheless, the point stands...NIU and other G5s are often only one or two deep at skill positions. Ohio State played 3 QBs and had 5 turnovers and still beat us. Making G5s play a bunch of games in a G5-only playoff to then have the G5 winner go to the main CFP and have to battle the Alabama's and Ohio State's of the world is a tough sled for G5s. That G5 is gonna come out injured and bruised after the first playoff and then have to battle a behemoth who can go 4 or 5 deep at skill positions and is just way bigger and faster on defense.

I don't mind this proposal but I'd rather us keep our G5 conferences as is and just have our own G5 playoff. Forget trying to compete with Sec and big10. Look what happened to the only G5 to ever play in the 4-team CFP. Cincinnati had a very good team and could only manage 6 points on offense vs an Alabama team that did not win the NC. The Sec and big10 have only consolidated more power and money since then with the latest conference poaching, TV deals, and expanded CFP system.

ESPN can have their P4 CFP and the G5 CFP can be on NBC, Fox, or one of the other prime channels.

(04-24-2024 08:58 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

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(04-24-2024 05:56 AM)Trekker41 Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...firms/amp/

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

(04-24-2024 08:25 AM)7 Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 AM)Trekker41 Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...firms/amp/

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

I don’t see how it’s possible for this to be what is calendar wise. The first round of the CFP is like two weeks after championship weekend. There’s no way to have a playoff in that time.

No championship games. 8 pods of 8. Winner of the pod goes to the play - in. You could do it. 7 in pod games. 4 out of pod. You would even get a week off before the playoff.

Yeah, I still don’t see it. I think it would have to be the G5 other than who gets the CFP birth. Maybe set up something like they have in European soccer where the CFP team joins later if they lose in the first round of the CFP.

(04-24-2024 05:56 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 08:58 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 AM)Trekker41 Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...firms/amp/

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

(04-24-2024 08:25 AM)7 Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 AM)Trekker41 Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...firms/amp/

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

I don’t see how it’s possible for this to be what is calendar wise. The first round of the CFP is like two weeks after championship weekend. There’s no way to have a playoff in that time.

No championship games. 8 pods of 8. Winner of the pod goes to the play - in. You could do it. 7 in pod games. 4 out of pod. You would even get a week off before the playoff.

Yeah, I still don’t see it. I think it would have to be the G5 other than who gets the CFP birth. Maybe set up something like they have in European soccer where the CFP team joins later if they lose in the first round of the CFP.

I was thinking about that too. Like the winner of the playoff spot moves up. The big boys figure out how to drop 1.

(04-24-2024 06:24 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 08:58 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 AM)Trekker41 Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...firms/amp/

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Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

(04-24-2024 08:25 AM)7 Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

I don’t see how it’s possible for this to be what is calendar wise. The first round of the CFP is like two weeks after championship weekend. There’s no way to have a playoff in that time.

No championship games. 8 pods of 8. Winner of the pod goes to the play - in. You could do it. 7 in pod games. 4 out of pod. You would even get a week off before the playoff.

Yeah, I still don’t see it. I think it would have to be the G5 other than who gets the CFP birth. Maybe set up something like they have in European soccer where the CFP team joins later if they lose in the first round of the CFP.

I was thinking about that too. Like the winner of the playoff spot moves up. The big boys figure out how to drop 1.

I think you're talking about pro/rel and, personally (and honestly) 1) that will never happen in college football and 2) will never happen with any top tier sport league in the United States.

Could you imagine the faces on conference big wigs if a team like Louisiana Tech (Ruston, LA) got promoted and a team like Vanderbilt (Nashville, TN) got relegated?

There's no way the conferences would ever allow that kind of market loss and, I'm assuming, their media contracts wouldn't allow it either.

(04-24-2024 07:57 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:24 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 08:58 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:47 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  Essentially a play in tournament for a “real” playoff spot. That actually makes sense to me. I thought it was going to be dumb…but I kind of like it. Along with some added revenue.

(04-24-2024 08:25 AM)7 Wrote:  I don’t see how it’s possible for this to be what is calendar wise. The first round of the CFP is like two weeks after championship weekend. There’s no way to have a playoff in that time.

No championship games. 8 pods of 8. Winner of the pod goes to the play - in. You could do it. 7 in pod games. 4 out of pod. You would even get a week off before the playoff.

Yeah, I still don’t see it. I think it would have to be the G5 other than who gets the CFP birth. Maybe set up something like they have in European soccer where the CFP team joins later if they lose in the first round of the CFP.

I was thinking about that too. Like the winner of the playoff spot moves up. The big boys figure out how to drop 1.

I think you're talking about pro/rel and, personally (and honestly) 1) that will never happen in college football and 2) will never happen with any top tier sport league in the United States.

Could you imagine the faces on conference big wigs if a team like Louisiana Tech (Ruston, LA) got promoted and a team like Vanderbilt (Nashville, TN) got relegated?

There's no way the conferences would ever allow that kind of market loss and, I'm assuming, their media contracts wouldn't allow it either.

I think conferences die. When a school like Vandy drops no one sheds a tear. Just a super league and a second tier. That’s it.

If a G5 makes the FBS playoffs great!!!!!! Just have a separate G5 playoffs as well. That's a good double dip...

(04-25-2024 08:11 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 07:57 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:24 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 08:58 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  No championship games. 8 pods of 8. Winner of the pod goes to the play - in. You could do it. 7 in pod games. 4 out of pod. You would even get a week off before the playoff.

Yeah, I still don’t see it. I think it would have to be the G5 other than who gets the CFP birth. Maybe set up something like they have in European soccer where the CFP team joins later if they lose in the first round of the CFP.

I was thinking about that too. Like the winner of the playoff spot moves up. The big boys figure out how to drop 1.

I think you're talking about pro/rel and, personally (and honestly) 1) that will never happen in college football and 2) will never happen with any top tier sport league in the United States.

Could you imagine the faces on conference big wigs if a team like Louisiana Tech (Ruston, LA) got promoted and a team like Vanderbilt (Nashville, TN) got relegated?

There's no way the conferences would ever allow that kind of market loss and, I'm assuming, their media contracts wouldn't allow it either.

I think conferences die. When a school like Vandy drops no one sheds a tear. Just a super league and a second tier. That’s it.

The conference presidents literally hold all the power and pull all the strings. To think they'll just disappear seems far-fetched.

(04-25-2024 09:24 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 08:11 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 07:57 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 06:24 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 05:56 PM)7 Wrote:  Yeah, I still don’t see it. I think it would have to be the G5 other than who gets the CFP birth. Maybe set up something like they have in European soccer where the CFP team joins later if they lose in the first round of the CFP.

I was thinking about that too. Like the winner of the playoff spot moves up. The big boys figure out how to drop 1.

I think you're talking about pro/rel and, personally (and honestly) 1) that will never happen in college football and 2) will never happen with any top tier sport league in the United States.

Could you imagine the faces on conference big wigs if a team like Louisiana Tech (Ruston, LA) got promoted and a team like Vanderbilt (Nashville, TN) got relegated?

There's no way the conferences would ever allow that kind of market loss and, I'm assuming, their media contracts wouldn't allow it either.

I think conferences die. When a school like Vandy drops no one sheds a tear. Just a super league and a second tier. That’s it.

The conference presidents literally hold all the power and pull all the strings. To think they'll just disappear seems far-fetched.

I highly doubt it. Schedules and TV deals are built around conferences. Conferences are also in place to help manage a number of other administrative, logistical, and academic issues.

(04-24-2024 03:51 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 03:35 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 03:32 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(04-24-2024 12:43 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  [quote='BigChilla' pid='19575455' dateline='1713967101']
No championship games. 8 pods of 8. Winner of the pod goes to the play - in. You could do it. 7 in pod games. 4 out of pod. You would even get a week off before the playoff.

But then the G5 teams beat each other up during a G5 playoff to then show up in the main CFP with a squad that has more injuries? It's hard enough for G5 to compete against Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, etc. with a healthy squad. If the big schools have injuries they just plug another 4 or 5-star player in his place. NIU losses a starting QB and now we're rolling with someone at QB who had no other offers and doesn't have the experience or natural talent to play against an Alabama defense.

This scenario reminds me of our last game vs. Ohio State. Ohio State played like 3 QBs against us but because we had an inexperienced QB we couldn't move the ball or score despite the NIU defense getting 3 interceptions and 2 fumble recoveries.

Not sure what you're talking about with the inexperienced QB comment. In the 2015 game against O$U, we had Drew Hare at QB. Hare was one of the better QBs we've had at NIU. Hare's stats from the previous year (2014): 194-326-2322 yds. 18 TDs and only 2 picks. Hare led us to a MAC Championship that year. In 2015: 164-257-1962 yds. 14 TDs and only 4 picks.

Sorry, I was thinking 2015 was his first year starting. Looking at his stats vs Ohio State, he sucked that game. 80 yards and 2 INTs passing. Look at what happened the next season after Drew Hare got injured. NIU had a losing record and lost to an FCS. We played Anthony Maddie and Ryan Graham.

Nonetheless, the point stands...NIU and other G5s are often only one or two deep at skill positions. Ohio State played 3 QBs and had 5 turnovers and still beat us. Making G5s play a bunch of games in a G5-only playoff to then have the G5 winner go to the main CFP and have to battle the Alabama's and Ohio State's of the world is a tough sled for G5s. That G5 is gonna come out injured and bruised after the first playoff and then have to battle a behemoth who can go 4 or 5 deep at skill positions and is just way bigger and faster on defense.

Hare didn't do well but to be fair, we couldn't block either Bosa or Washington. There was a defender in the backfield right away for a good part of the game. Also, OSU played 3 QBs because whoever was in there would throw a pick.