(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ✔@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ✔@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ✔@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

(05-30-2015 08:21 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ✔@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

Let's see:
Notre Dame does not want to join a conference, and Texas is making more than SEC money with their LHN deal. What's their incentive to do what you suggest?
At this point the real pressure is on ESPN to keep their property relevant and at least somewhat satisfied.

(05-30-2015 09:32 AM)samandrea Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ✔@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

You should do that. It is time for UNC to make the jump I believe to the SEC. Heck, right now would be a great time to go to the BIG since their contract is up soon.

(05-30-2015 09:47 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:32 AM)samandrea Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy [HEAVY CHECK MARK]@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

You should do that. It is time for UNC to make the jump I believe to the SEC. Heck, right now would be a great time to go to the BIG since their contract is up soon.

I'd love to see UNC jump to the SEC or Big Ten and become a nobody, hating your new conference because you're no longer in control of anything. But that's directed more at the general UNC fan than you specifically.

(05-30-2015 09:47 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:32 AM)samandrea Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ✔@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

You should do that. It is time for UNC to make the jump I believe to the SEC. Heck, right now would be a great time to go to the BIG since their contract is up soon.

I'd love to see UNC jump to the SEC or Big Ten and become a nobody, hating your new conference because you're no longer in control of anything. But that's directed more at the general UNC fan than you specifically.

(05-30-2015 09:57 AM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:47 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:32 AM)samandrea Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ✔@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

You should do that. It is time for UNC to make the jump I believe to the SEC. Heck, right now would be a great time to go to the BIG since their contract is up soon.

I'd love to see UNC jump to the SEC or Big Ten and become a nobody, hating your new conference because you're no longer in control of anything. But that's directed more at the general UNC fan than you specifically.

I'm new to the board and come in peace unless provoked. My question to you sir Since I'm a little far north, Does the common FSU fan simply want out of the ACC or do they like the ACC? I'm just wondering because It sounds like to me your fanbase hates the ACC and wants out.

Quote:Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 22h22 hours ago
Bob Bowlsby says from Big 12 meetings, league will distribute $27M to 8 members; TCU & WVU get $23M

(05-30-2015 09:57 AM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:47 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:32 AM)samandrea Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ✔@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

You should do that. It is time for UNC to make the jump I believe to the SEC. Heck, right now would be a great time to go to the BIG since their contract is up soon.

I'd love to see UNC jump to the SEC or Big Ten and become a nobody, hating your new conference because you're no longer in control of anything. But that's directed more at the general UNC fan than you specifically.

I'm new to the board and come in peace unless provoked. My question to you sir Since I'm a little far north, Does the common FSU fan simply want out of the ACC or do they like the ACC? I'm just wondering because It sounds like to me your fanbase hates the ACC and wants out.

(05-30-2015 10:22 AM)nole Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:57 AM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:47 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:32 AM)samandrea Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ✔@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

You should do that. It is time for UNC to make the jump I believe to the SEC. Heck, right now would be a great time to go to the BIG since their contract is up soon.

I'd love to see UNC jump to the SEC or Big Ten and become a nobody, hating your new conference because you're no longer in control of anything. But that's directed more at the general UNC fan than you specifically.

I'm new to the board and come in peace unless provoked. My question to you sir Since I'm a little far north, Does the common FSU fan simply want out of the ACC or do they like the ACC? I'm just wondering because It sounds like to me your fanbase hates the ACC and wants out.

There is no monolithic FSU voice....but the boosters (myself included) and folks I know like the ACC, but have MAJOR issues with it.

1. With the coming revenue differences, FSU will not be able to compete for national titles. That is reality and that point ALONE makes the ACC a huge issue.

2. ACC's TV network actively works against ACC Football...mainly due to their relationship with the SEC. When 20-30 of their talking heads are SEC ex players or media and constantly rip the ACC football apart....it makes it unbearable from a football perspective.

ESPN ACTIVELY sent reporters all last year to FSU and embedded them for weeks on end to look through police reports to find dirt on ALL of FSU during the Winston stuff. It is how you heard about HORRIBLE acts of stealing coke, shooting BB guns, and saying cuss word. Meanwhile.....the SEC is CLEAN as a whistle.

3. The SEC supports it's own in big topics (NCAA tourney, football playoffs, etc). The ACC eats it's own. Ask Clemson who years back got NCAA Probation and then the ACC turned around and added to the punishment. Think the SEC would do that? Hell they stand together and basically tell the NCAA to backoff (unless you really believe the SEC is clean in football.....cause they rarely get hammered by the NCAA. I don't believe for a second that UNC is the quintessential cheater in college athletics. Auburn alone would be a gold mine, but NCAA won't touch...$$$$). Swofford didn't lift a finger to back FSU in the playoff discussions this past year after going undefeated.

4. Most are aware that, despite bringing in most of the money for the conference (rip away...it is reality), schools like Wake have more say so in this conference than we do. That is exceedingly frustrating....and leads to a status quo....one that rewards doing nothing and avoiding change. It is killing the ACC and this is the Big East part 2. The ACC didn't learn from that conference....it is reliving it.

Most would be OK with the ACC......but we see the death of a program in a national title competitive sense for football and a conference that won't be a major one within 15 years.

(05-30-2015 10:26 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

Quote:Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 22h22 hours ago
Bob Bowlsby says from Big 12 meetings, league will distribute $27M to 8 members; TCU & WVU get $23M

That's $26.2M averaged over the 10 schools. What was the ACC last year, ~$20M?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the CFP site says conferences will receive roughly $50M base, plus an addition $6M for playoff participants. Then add the ACC's $27.5M for the Orange. So the ACC will receive roughly $83.5M for last season's CFP/NY6 (SEC at $87.5M)?

What were the BCS/Orange Bowl payouts for the 2013 season? I'll assume they were around $20M apiece. So that'd be $43.5M in new revenue this year, which is a tad over $3M/school. If the bowl payouts last year were higher, then the increase per school this year will obviously be lower than $3M, and vice versa. Does Hokie Mark or anyone have these figures?

So the ACC should be around $23-24M after including the annual tv deal bump? I'll change my $8-9M behind the SEC to ~$7M behind the SEC.

The ~$300K/school from the 2015 NCAAT isn't significant enough to affect the numbers greatly.

Also, keep in mind the ACC loses $23.5M next year from the Orange Bowl and the SEC gains $12.5M from the Sugar.

(05-30-2015 11:16 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 10:26 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

Quote:Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 22h22 hours ago
Bob Bowlsby says from Big 12 meetings, league will distribute $27M to 8 members; TCU & WVU get $23M

That's $26.2M averaged over the 10 schools. What was the ACC last year, ~$20M?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the CFP site says conferences will receive roughly $50M base, plus an addition $6M for playoff participants. Then add the ACC's $27.5M for the Orange. So the ACC will receive roughly $83.5M for last season's CFP/NY6 (SEC at $87.5M)?

What were the BCS/Orange Bowl payouts for the 2013 season? I'll assume they were around $20M apiece. So that'd be $43.5M in new revenue this year, which is a tad over $3M/school. If the bowl payouts last year were higher, then the increase per school this year will obviously be lower than $3M, and vice versa. Does Hokie Mark or anyone have these figures?

So the ACC should be around $23-24M after including the annual tv deal bump? I'll change my $8-9M behind the SEC to ~$7M behind the SEC.

The ~$300K/school from the 2015 NCAAT isn't significant enough to affect the numbers greatly.

Also, keep in mind the ACC loses $23.5M next year from the Orange Bowl and the SEC gains $12.5M from the Sugar.

Please back off the cliff....
the ACCN will launch in 2016 or 2018.... You are worried about ACC schools getting $7M behind the SEC.... When the ACCN launches the ACC schools will get that 7 M to draw even with the SEC, heck they may even get more...

(05-30-2015 09:45 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 08:21 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ✔@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

Let's see:
Notre Dame does not want to join a conference, and Texas is making more than SEC money with their LHN deal. What's their incentive to do what you suggest?
At this point the real pressure is on ESPN to keep their property relevant and at least somewhat satisfied.

Since clearly your African American Studies major taught you nothing, ND would be in discussions for a similar deal they have with the ACC. You do know they are in a conference, right?

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy [HEAVY CHECK MARK]@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

(05-30-2015 12:15 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:56 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Brett McMurphy [HEAVY CHECK MARK]@McMurphyESPN
SEC will distribute $31.07M per school in revenue, sources told @ESPN. League made record $455M past year
10:07 AM - 29 May 2015

I see it was posted on the Realignment board, but I don't think it's been discussed here. And I don't want to jump into a conversation that's already on page 14.

If accurate, the ACC will be a cool ~$8-9M behind SEC payouts this year, and primed to only increase over the next 5-10 years. That's much more than I was expecting. I believe they were around a $21M average last year.

If accurate, I hope FSU's on the phone with Texas, OU and ND about forming their own conference. Heck, even if it's not accurate, I'd still meet with them as a contingency.

You used this years payout for the SEC and last year's payout for the ACC. This assumes that the SEC got a bump from the playoff payouts but the ACC will not. Last year the difference in distributions for the two conferences was ~$100k in favor of the SEC. This year both conferences placed a team in the playoffs and neither advanced beyond the semifinals. The revenue there should be about even. The bowl payouts and the SEC network should account for the remainder of the difference. The ACC may have an edge in NCAAT money but spread across 15 members I doubt it will be significant. If the ACC is within $1-3 million without the SECN money accounted for we will be fine. The ACCN is coming. That will close the gap enough to stay within striking distance. Please elaborate how it is primed to increase over the next 5-10 years. Once the ACC announces their payout for this year ending in June we can see just how deep the hole is. My guess will be under $2 million when the SECN is accounted for.