(01-18-2018 11:08 AM)PonyHoopsFan85 Wrote:  ESPN Top 100 Prospects for 2018 Draft:
25. Shake Milton
32. Jarrey Foster
40. Landry Shamet
43. Jacob Evans

My thoughts: 1) How is Landry Shamet only 40? That will change by seasons end. I remember Semi Ojeleye was like 72 at this point last year, so there will be big changes, but still. 2) How is Quinton Rose not ranked? 3) I don't see Jarrey Foster as #32 and higher than Evans. He is a better athlete than Evans, but Evans is a sold athlete and a real good shooter.

I think Shake and Shamet will both go pro. I think Evans and Jarrey* will test the waters and probably come back, but too early to know on them.

*If Jarrey didn't suffer a season-ending knee injury last night.

(01-18-2018 11:20 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 11:08 AM)PonyHoopsFan85 Wrote:  ESPN Top 100 Prospects for 2018 Draft:
25. Shake Milton
32. Jarrey Foster
40. Landry Shamet
43. Jacob Evans

My thoughts: 1) How is Landry Shamet only 40? That will change by seasons end. I remember Semi Ojeleye was like 72 at this point last year, so there will be big changes, but still. 2) How is Quinton Rose not ranked? 3) I don't see Jarrey Foster as #32 and higher than Evans. He is a better athlete than Evans, but Evans is a sold athlete and a real good shooter.

I think Shake and Shamet will both go pro. I think Evans and Jarrey* will test the waters and probably come back, but too early to know on them.

*If Jarrey didn't suffer a season-ending knee injury last night.

Evans is arguably the best all-around defender on arguably the best defense in the country and brings a 47/40/80 shooting clip with considerable height for a COmbo guard (6'6"-6'7") depending on the site and a very good wingspan (6'11")...he'll be a solid rotational 1-3 in the NBA, and at the very least will be a 3 and D guy for a few years. He'll move up the rankings throughout the year.

(01-18-2018 11:25 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 11:20 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 11:08 AM)PonyHoopsFan85 Wrote:  ESPN Top 100 Prospects for 2018 Draft:
25. Shake Milton
32. Jarrey Foster
40. Landry Shamet
43. Jacob Evans

My thoughts: 1) How is Landry Shamet only 40? That will change by seasons end. I remember Semi Ojeleye was like 72 at this point last year, so there will be big changes, but still. 2) How is Quinton Rose not ranked? 3) I don't see Jarrey Foster as #32 and higher than Evans. He is a better athlete than Evans, but Evans is a sold athlete and a real good shooter.

I think Shake and Shamet will both go pro. I think Evans and Jarrey* will test the waters and probably come back, but too early to know on them.

*If Jarrey didn't suffer a season-ending knee injury last night.

Evans is arguably the best all-around defender on arguably the best defense in the country and brings a 47/40/80 shooting clip with considerable height for a COmbo guard (6'6"-6'7") depending on the site and a very good wingspan (6'11")...he'll be a solid rotational 1-3 in the NBA, and at the very least will be a 3 and D guy for a few years. He'll move up the rankings throughout the year.

He also has a 40"+ vertical and is apart of the 12 ft club at UC (max vert touching 12ft or over).

I think Evans has developed a mid range pull up game that translates however one part of his game that I still think needs work is driving and finishing at the rim in a half court setting.

Also, he has proven he can play PG if he needs to and I think can legitimately guard 1-3 on defense.


He is the epitome of the modern NBA's 3 & D guy and if he develops a dribble drive game, he will be a great shooting guard off the bench.

(01-18-2018 12:10 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  Because Rose isn't remotely ready for the NBA.

(01-18-2018 02:12 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  I have absolutely no problem with Shamet's draft numbers being low and continuing to fall.


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(01-18-2018 02:17 PM)PonyHoopsFan85 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:12 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  I have absolutely no problem with Shamet's draft numbers being low and continuing to fall.


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I am sure you don't, but I would be shocked if he didn't end up between 25-35. He is an NBA caliber PG.

(01-18-2018 02:22 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If Shamet goes pro, WSU is middle of the pack next year, we'll just be so young. If he stays, we can be top 3. The team built around Shamet, McDuffie and Austin Reaves can be pretty dang good.

(01-18-2018 02:22 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If Shamet goes pro, WSU is middle of the pack next year, we'll just be so young. If he stays, we can be top 3. The team built around Shamet, McDuffie and Austin Reaves can be pretty dang good.

(01-18-2018 02:25 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:22 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If Shamet goes pro, WSU is middle of the pack next year, we'll just be so young. If he stays, we can be top 3. The team built around Shamet, McDuffie and Austin Reaves can be pretty dang good.

Too modest.

Middle of the pack JFC...


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(01-18-2018 02:54 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:25 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:22 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If Shamet goes pro, WSU is middle of the pack next year, we'll just be so young. If he stays, we can be top 3. The team built around Shamet, McDuffie and Austin Reaves can be pretty dang good.

Too modest.

Middle of the pack JFC...


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We will have zero front court next year. Only people with experience will be McDuffie (who's mainly been playing the 3) and Mitgaard (not ready yet). Everyone else will be new (Freshman or Juco)

Even with Shamet, it's going to be tough to be Top 3.

(01-18-2018 03:08 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:54 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:25 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:22 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If Shamet goes pro, WSU is middle of the pack next year, we'll just be so young. If he stays, we can be top 3. The team built around Shamet, McDuffie and Austin Reaves can be pretty dang good.

Too modest.

Middle of the pack JFC...


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We will have zero front court next year. Only people with experience will be McDuffie (who's mainly been playing the 3) and Mitgaard (not ready yet). Everyone else will be new (Freshman or Juco)

Even with Shamet, it's going to be tough to be Top 3.

Remember what league you're talking about...Cincinnati will be in a world of hurt next year with Clark, Washington, Jenifer, and potentially Evans gone, SMU will likely lose their two best players, same with UCF. Rob Gray is gone from Houston, and UConn is well, UConn.

(01-18-2018 02:34 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:22 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If Shamet goes pro, WSU is middle of the pack next year, we'll just be so young. If he stays, we can be top 3. The team built around Shamet, McDuffie and Austin Reaves can be pretty dang good.

WSU Waterboys rise to #1 if Shamet goes.

(01-18-2018 02:54 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:25 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:22 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If Shamet goes pro, WSU is middle of the pack next year, we'll just be so young. If he stays, we can be top 3. The team built around Shamet, McDuffie and Austin Reaves can be pretty dang good.

Too modest.

Middle of the pack JFC...


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We will have zero front court next year. Only people with experience will be McDuffie (who's mainly been playing the 3) and Mitgaard (not ready yet). Everyone else will be new (Freshman or Juco)

Even with Shamet, it's going to be tough to be Top 3.

(01-18-2018 03:10 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 03:08 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:54 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:25 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:22 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If Shamet goes pro, WSU is middle of the pack next year, we'll just be so young. If he stays, we can be top 3. The team built around Shamet, McDuffie and Austin Reaves can be pretty dang good.

Too modest.

Middle of the pack JFC...


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We will have zero front court next year. Only people with experience will be McDuffie (who's mainly been playing the 3) and Mitgaard (not ready yet). Everyone else will be new (Freshman or Juco)

Even with Shamet, it's going to be tough to be Top 3.

Remember what league you're talking about...Cincinnati will be in a world of hurt next year with Clark, Washington, Jenifer, and potentially Evans gone, SMU will likely lose their two best players, same with UCF. Rob Gray is gone from Houston, and UConn is well, UConn.

if our players stay healthy, no one transfers, and we get a new coach by next year all will be right

(01-18-2018 03:08 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:54 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:25 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 02:22 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If Shamet goes pro, WSU is middle of the pack next year, we'll just be so young. If he stays, we can be top 3. The team built around Shamet, McDuffie and Austin Reaves can be pretty dang good.

Too modest.

Middle of the pack JFC...


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We will have zero front court next year. Only people with experience will be McDuffie (who's mainly been playing the 3) and Mitgaard (not ready yet). Everyone else will be new (Freshman or Juco)

Even with Shamet, it's going to be tough to be Top 3.

Remember what league you're talking about...Cincinnati will be in a world of hurt next year with Clark, Washington, Jenifer, and potentially Evans gone, SMU will likely lose their two best players, same with UCF. Rob Gray is gone from Houston, and UConn is well, UConn.