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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-16-2018 01:15 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 01:07 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 12:58 PM)JFlight21 Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 12:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Wichita's win over UConn is by RPI better than Cincy's win over SMU.

right now-
Wichita has wins over 37 Marquette(neutral), 49 Houston, 59 South Dakota St, @ 78 UConn, @ 86 Baylor, @ 95 Okla St, and @ 125 Tulsa as tier 1/2 wins
Cincy has wins over 27 Buffalo(neutral), @ 46 UCLA, @ 52 Temple, 73 Miss St, and 88 Wyoming(neutral) as tier 1/2 wins (SMU home is a tier 3 win right now)

losses-
Wichita- 3 Oklahoma, 50 Notre Dame(neutral)
Cincy- @ 8 Xavier, 41 Florida(neutral)

Wichita right now has a much deeper resume in terms of the good wins. And it could get better if UConn, Baylor, and Oklahoma St all move up just a smidge into tier 1.

As a broader statement on the selection process, I thought the committee was going to lean more heavily toward advanced computer metrics like KenPom and Sagarin. Yet it appears they are using RPI for the win tiers....

You are right on both counts. They are going to start encouraging the use of advanced metrics instead of discouraging it. And they are evaluating moving to an advanced metric rating system in the future.

IMO, changing the RPI slots to the Tier system which values road wins and devalues home wins is a big step in the right direction.

WSU has been well-served by advanced metrics like kenPom, but I have reservations about making a rating system that factors margin of victory the official end-all-be-all rating system. I don't like the idea of needing to run up the score whenever possible to sustain/improve your rating for selection/seeding purposes.

RPI already factors home wins at only .66 and factors road wins at 1.33.

it's actually .6 and 1.4.....

BUT they've changed the ranking groups....

tier 1 used to be any game 1-50. Now it's home 1-30, neutral 1-50, and away 1-75.
01-16-2018 01:17 PM
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1/15 Bracketology - stever20 - 01-16-2018, 11:13 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - 2bumsabroad - 01-16-2018, 11:33 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - C0|db|00ded - 01-16-2018, 11:36 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - geef - 01-16-2018, 11:51 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - stever20 - 01-16-2018, 12:00 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - C2__ - 01-16-2018, 01:35 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - shockerfan1313 - 01-16-2018, 02:26 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - HuskyU - 01-16-2018, 02:29 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - C0|db|00ded - 01-16-2018, 03:17 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - JFlight21 - 01-16-2018, 12:05 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - stever20 - 01-16-2018, 12:11 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - JFlight21 - 01-16-2018, 12:15 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - JFlight21 - 01-16-2018, 12:19 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - Wheatshock - 01-16-2018, 12:31 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - geef - 01-16-2018, 01:08 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - stever20 - 01-16-2018, 12:43 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - JFlight21 - 01-16-2018, 12:58 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - Wheatshock - 01-16-2018, 01:05 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - TU4ever - 01-16-2018, 01:16 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - Wudizzle - 01-16-2018, 01:07 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - rath v2.0 - 01-16-2018, 01:15 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - stever20 - 01-16-2018 01:17 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - Wheatshock - 01-16-2018, 01:17 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - C0|db|00ded - 01-16-2018, 12:52 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - TU4ever - 01-16-2018, 01:19 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - C0|db|00ded - 01-16-2018, 01:23 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - TU4ever - 01-16-2018, 01:29 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - ShockerFever - 01-16-2018, 01:07 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - HuskyU - 01-16-2018, 01:18 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - TU4ever - 01-16-2018, 01:24 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - stever20 - 01-16-2018, 01:29 PM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - pvtlamb - 01-16-2018, 11:35 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - TU4ever - 01-16-2018, 11:44 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - payday - 01-16-2018, 11:39 PM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - payday - 01-16-2018, 11:12 PM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - stever20 - 01-17-2018, 12:01 AM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - payday - 01-17-2018, 12:04 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - stever20 - 01-17-2018, 12:55 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - ShockerFever - 01-16-2018, 11:12 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - ShockerFever - 01-16-2018, 11:14 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - ShockerFever - 01-16-2018, 11:18 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - payday - 01-16-2018, 11:24 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - ShockerFever - 01-16-2018, 11:29 PM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - pvtlamb - 01-16-2018, 11:40 PM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - TU4ever - 01-16-2018, 11:48 PM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - shockerfan1313 - 01-16-2018, 11:59 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - TU4ever - 01-17-2018, 12:04 AM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - shockerfan1313 - 01-17-2018, 12:19 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - TU4ever - 01-17-2018, 12:28 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - Wudizzle - 01-17-2018, 10:56 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - stever20 - 01-17-2018, 12:37 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - ShockerFever - 01-17-2018, 12:13 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - shockerfan1313 - 01-17-2018, 12:17 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - TU4ever - 01-17-2018, 12:23 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - payday - 01-17-2018, 12:15 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - ShockerFever - 01-17-2018, 12:06 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - TU4ever - 01-17-2018, 12:16 AM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - ShockerFever - 01-16-2018, 11:50 PM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - shockerfan1313 - 01-16-2018, 11:58 PM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - payday - 01-17-2018, 12:48 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - payday - 01-17-2018, 12:58 AM
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology - rath v2.0 - 01-17-2018, 06:14 AM
RE: 1/15 Bracketology - C0|db|00ded - 01-17-2018, 03:05 PM
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