UConn, Louisville...several teams fans seem to WANT us in their bracket...i really don't care...i want 6-0 in the NCAA's...who we beat along the way is irrelevant.

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

(03-14-2009 01:40 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UConn, Louisville...several teams fans seem to WANT us in their bracket...i really don't care...i want 6-0 in the NCAA's...who we beat along the way is irrelevant.

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

Tell me, do you honestly still think that Memphis is a shoein to beat Syracuse? You talked alot of crap disrespecting Syracuse earlier. You were the one claoming that SU is a 6-8th seed. We could get as high as a 2 seed, depending on how those ahead of us does. Its pretty impressive to wind up with a 2-4 seed coming out of a conference like the BE. You know you have earned it.

(03-14-2009 07:36 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-14-2009 01:40 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UConn, Louisville...several teams fans seem to WANT us in their bracket...i really don't care...i want 6-0 in the NCAA's...who we beat along the way is irrelevant.

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

Tell me, do you honestly still think that Memphis is a shoein to beat Syracuse? You talked alot of crap disrespecting Syracuse earlier. You were the one claoming that SU is a 6-8th seed. We could get as high as a 2 seed, depending on how those ahead of us does. Its pretty impressive to wind up with a 2-4 seed coming out of a conference like the BE. You know you have earned it.

1. Syracuse can beat anybody in the country. They've proved that this season.

2. People keep taking about the last three seasons because some basketball people think that this team Memphis team
MIGHT be better than the last three....and we've heard the EXACT same argument about our team during that time span.

3. The best team doesn't ALWAYS win. i doubt that Louisville would finish 6th in the Mountain West behind UNLV.

Quote:i doubt that Louisville would finish 6th in the Mountain West behind UNLV.

Heh. I wondered when someone would mention that.

Memphis is a great team in a crap conference. It is too hard to rate them in the Big East. If any Memphis fans think that they could get through the Big East the same way they do in CUSA year after year they are wrong. Memphis can look at Huggins Coached WVU, Marquette and Louisville for a point of familiarity and an idea of where they would fall in pecking orders in the league. Memphis competed with the same schools and coaches in old CUSA and would probably enjoy a similar level success or failure in the Big East they did against us as they did in CUSA. Playing in the high school JV league that is the current CUSA is like playing against a league populated with teams the quality of Cincy, Seton Hall, St, Johns, USF, Depaul, and Rutgers at best. WVU, Marquette, and Louisville would all be Champs of that league if they had to swap places with Memphis. Memphis could with the same schedule and luck finish the same as Louisville did and win the Big East, but they could have also tripped up as bad as Notre Dame, the Big East is tough and sometimes the difference in 1st and 6th is razor thin.

(03-14-2009 09:38 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

Quote:i doubt that Louisville would finish 6th in the Mountain West behind UNLV.

Heh. I wondered when someone would mention that.

So a one score loss on a miserably officiated game in December is as important as the work done against quality teams in Jan-March? Memphis has to be judged on preconference work because that is the only quality competition they have played, Louisville has played well against good teams recently.. It doesn't mean Memphis is not a great team, but it proves my point that it is difficult to gauge due to playing in CUSA is like playing against the bottom third of the Big East.

MHSCard Wrote:If any Memphis fans think that they could get through the Big East the same way they do in CUSA year after year they are wrong.

Have you heard from any Memphis fans -- or anyone else -- who think that?

(03-14-2009 11:03 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

MHSCard Wrote:If any Memphis fans think that they could get through the Big East the same way they do in CUSA year after year they are wrong.

Have you heard from any Memphis fans -- or anyone else -- who think that?

No but my statement still stands. Same as my statement that they could be anywhere from 1st - 6th in the conference standings, I have been fair to Memphis this is just tough thing to call.

MHSCard Wrote:Same as my statement that they could be anywhere from 1st - 6th in the conference standings

I agree with that.

(03-14-2009 01:39 PM)MHSCard Wrote:  

(03-14-2009 11:03 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

MHSCard Wrote:If any Memphis fans think that they could get through the Big East the same way they do in CUSA year after year they are wrong.

Have you heard from any Memphis fans -- or anyone else -- who think that?

No but my statement still stands. Same as my statement that they could be anywhere from 1st - 6th in the conference standings, I have been fair to Memphis this is just tough thing to call.

I don't see how, based on their ncaa tourney performance, that anyone can think Memphis could reasonably finish worse than say 3rd in the Big East. The BE finish range of this team the past four years is 1-3.

(03-14-2009 10:47 AM)MHSCard Wrote:  Memphis is a great team in a crap conference. It is too hard to rate them in the Big East. If any Memphis fans think that they could get through the Big East the same way they do in CUSA year after year they are wrong. Memphis can look at Huggins Coached WVU, Marquette and Louisville for a point of familiarity and an idea of where they would fall in pecking orders in the league. Memphis competed with the same schools and coaches in old CUSA and would probably enjoy a similar level success or failure in the Big East they did against us as they did in CUSA. Playing in the high school JV league that is the current CUSA is like playing against a league populated with teams the quality of Cincy, Seton Hall, St, Johns, USF, Depaul, and Rutgers at best. WVU, Marquette, and Louisville would all be Champs of that league if they had to swap places with Memphis. Memphis could with the same schedule and luck finish the same as Louisville did and win the Big East, but they could have also tripped up as bad as Notre Dame, the Big East is tough and sometimes the difference in 1st and 6th is razor thin.

Dude, this is silly ... !!! Memphis is not dodging the Big East. If the Big East sincerely wanted to know if we could compete in their conference, it simply has to extend an invitation.

I suspect that you're simply lobbying for your conference though and your Spin Machine Boy ... Joe Lunardi. The truth of matter is ... no conference has ever gotten three (3) number one seeds. Plus, Pitt & UConn bowed out during their 1st games of the tournaments. I would not be surprised if the Big East only got one (1) number one seed !!!

Just something to think about ...

(03-14-2009 02:15 PM)TonyTiger Wrote:  

(03-14-2009 10:47 AM)MHSCard Wrote:  Memphis is a great team in a crap conference. It is too hard to rate them in the Big East. If any Memphis fans think that they could get through the Big East the same way they do in CUSA year after year they are wrong. Memphis can look at Huggins Coached WVU, Marquette and Louisville for a point of familiarity and an idea of where they would fall in pecking orders in the league. Memphis competed with the same schools and coaches in old CUSA and would probably enjoy a similar level success or failure in the Big East they did against us as they did in CUSA. Playing in the high school JV league that is the current CUSA is like playing against a league populated with teams the quality of Cincy, Seton Hall, St, Johns, USF, Depaul, and Rutgers at best. WVU, Marquette, and Louisville would all be Champs of that league if they had to swap places with Memphis. Memphis could with the same schedule and luck finish the same as Louisville did and win the Big East, but they could have also tripped up as bad as Notre Dame, the Big East is tough and sometimes the difference in 1st and 6th is razor thin.

Dude, this is silly ... !!! Memphis is not dodging the Big East. If the Big East sincerely wanted to know if we could compete in their conference, it simply has to extend an invitation.

I suspect that you're simply lobbying for your conference though and your Spin Machine Boy ... Joe Lunardi. The truth of matter is ... no conference has ever gotten three (3) number one seeds. Plus, Pitt & UConn bowed out during the 1st round of their tournaments. I would not be surprised if the Big East only got one (1) number one seed !!!

Just something to think about ...

Memphis does not deserve a #1 seed pure and simple. It does not matter if UCONN and Pitt are #1 seeds, but Memphis should not be a #1 seed based on body of work.

I saw a little of the Memphis Home Tournament today. Does Tulsa play any D? I mean all those drive to the lane easy lay ups just won't work against BE teams. Seriously, no one knows how good Memphis is right now because they have been playing high school basketball teams night in and night out for the past few months.

This anti-Memphis sentiment is remarkable. I don't know what's driving it, but it's something much deeper than just the difference between a #1 seed and #2 seed in one Dance.

(03-14-2009 02:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  This anti-Memphis sentiment is remarkable. I don't know what's driving it, but it's something much deeper than just the difference between a #1 seed and #2 seed in one Dance.

I don't know about others, but I am not hating on Memphis. They are a good team but they don't deserve a #1 seed based on their resume. That's the whole point.

SF Husky Wrote:They are a good team but they don't deserve a #1 seed based on their resume.

what do they deserve?

(03-14-2009 02:30 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

SF Husky Wrote:They are a good team but they don't deserve a #1 seed based on their resume.

what do they deserve?

#2 or #3 seed at best. At end of the day, it does not matter because they will get to play some good teams in the NCAA to prove themselves. Seeding should be based on body of work during the regular season. Both Pitt and UCONN have much stronger resume than Memphis and both deserve #1 seeds over Memphis.

(03-14-2009 02:25 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(03-14-2009 02:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  This anti-Memphis sentiment is remarkable. I don't know what's driving it, but it's something much deeper than just the difference between a #1 seed and #2 seed in one Dance.

I don't know about others, but I am not hating on Memphis. They are a good team but they don't deserve a #1 seed based on their resume. That's the whole point.

Okay, I'll bite ... "who do you think deserves a number one seed?" Bear in mind that UConn lost to Pitt twice, Georgetown, and Syracuse. Pitt has had questionable loses and Louisville lost to UNLV.

Who do you think deserves a number one seed ... ?

(03-14-2009 02:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  This anti-Memphis sentiment is remarkable. I don't know what's driving it, but it's something much deeper than just the difference between a #1 seed and #2 seed in one Dance.

Have you even read the entire thread? There is no anti memphis sentiment here. We are just pointing out a few facts that some Memphis folks refuse to recognize. For instance, the present Memphis team is not as good as last years Memphis team. Last years team beat pretty much anybody that got on the floor with them, including a couple of the top BE teams. This years Memphis team has not beaten anyone, not even close. Cusa teams dont count as anyone of significance. They have already lost to a couple of BE teams, and havent played Louisville, Uconn or Pitt.

For them to come over here and tell us that they would be one of the top BE teams if they were in the BE would be more disrespectful than us saying that they would not be one of the top BE teams. We dont go to their board and tell them that they would not be a top BE team, mostly because we dont care enough about the matter, but dont come over here telling is how great you are, not when you have teams like Pitt, Uconn, Louisville, Nova, Marquette, and Syracuse.

I agree that Memphis has probably gotten a little better, but I dont believe that they are as good as they claim to be, just because they are beating up on terrible cusa teams. And the excuse that if Evans had played point guard, they would have beaten SU is just that, an excuse. SU did not even have its 2nd leading scorer on that team that beat Memphis. At least they still had Evans and the other key players on the floor and still lost to a less than 100% Syracuse. They lost to SU when SU was healthy, and when SU had several players hurt at the same time or sitting the bench for a long stretch of games, we lost some games that SU otherwise, probably would have won. Now that SU is much more healthy, though still not 100% yet, you can see just how good this team really is.

(03-14-2009 02:46 PM)TonyTiger Wrote:  

(03-14-2009 02:25 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(03-14-2009 02:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  This anti-Memphis sentiment is remarkable. I don't know what's driving it, but it's something much deeper than just the difference between a #1 seed and #2 seed in one Dance.

I don't know about others, but I am not hating on Memphis. They are a good team but they don't deserve a #1 seed based on their resume. That's the whole point.

Okay, I'll bite ... "who do you think deserves a number one seed?" Bear in mind that UConn lost to Pitt twice, Georgetown, and Syracuse. Pitt has had questionable loses and Louisville lost to UNLV.

Who do you think deserves a number one seed ... ?

UCONN, Pitt and UNC deserve #1 seed. If UL wins tonight, they deserve a #1 seed. It really isn't that hard. All 4 teams played in way way way harder conference than Memphis did. Memphis resume impresses no one. It is not better than Nova's resume. If Memphis should be a #1 seed, so should Nova.

(03-14-2009 02:46 PM)TonyTiger Wrote:  

(03-14-2009 02:25 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(03-14-2009 02:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  This anti-Memphis sentiment is remarkable. I don't know what's driving it, but it's something much deeper than just the difference between a #1 seed and #2 seed in one Dance.

I don't know about others, but I am not hating on Memphis. They are a good team but they don't deserve a #1 seed based on their resume. That's the whole point.

Okay, I'll bite ... "who do you think deserves a number one seed?" Bear in mind that UConn lost to Pitt twice, Georgetown, and Syracuse. Pitt has had questionable loses and Louisville lost to UNLV.

Who do you think deserves a number one seed ... ?

You like to point to reasons why Pitt and Uconn dont deserve a #1 seed, now point to reasons why you think Memphis deserves a number 1 seed, especially since Memphis also lost to some of the teams that Pitt and Uconn lost to. Who has memphis beaten to even deserve a 2 seed, let alone a 1 seed?