(04-17-2012 02:28 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:14 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:12 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I was bullied in middle school all the time. Got suspended for defending myself in a fight. 'Injustice' is the middle name of 'public schools'.

Heh, but "Our country would fall apart without them!"

I did a little investigation, and as much as I admire Ron Paul's tenacity and offensive approach to cutting federal departments that are unnecessary, the real issue with our education system is a lack of general oversight by the states and cities that are charged with the safety and freedoms of the students and faculty.

Bullying is a problem that the federal government has no power to address, because it isn't a federal problem. Those schools that can't inhibit in-school bullying should be disciplined with a lack of funding. However, I also did notice that Facebook harbored part of the bullying that was ongoing.

Anyways, where was this young man's parents in all of this?

there for him...according to the story shortly before killing himself he told his mother "Mom, you don’t know how it feels to be hated."

(04-17-2012 02:26 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Gentlemen, the herd just got a little thinner and what remains is a little stronger.

thats gross.

No, what's gross is a society where kids are forced to grow up without getting tough. Kids can't even win/lose a t-ball game anymore. You raise soft, weak sissys, you get soft, weak sissys. Is there anything about you that can allow you to be bullied into suicide?

(04-17-2012 02:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:28 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:14 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:12 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I was bullied in middle school all the time. Got suspended for defending myself in a fight. 'Injustice' is the middle name of 'public schools'.

Heh, but "Our country would fall apart without them!"

I did a little investigation, and as much as I admire Ron Paul's tenacity and offensive approach to cutting federal departments that are unnecessary, the real issue with our education system is a lack of general oversight by the states and cities that are charged with the safety and freedoms of the students and faculty.

Bullying is a problem that the federal government has no power to address, because it isn't a federal problem. Those schools that can't inhibit in-school bullying should be disciplined with a lack of funding. However, I also did notice that Facebook harbored part of the bullying that was ongoing.

Anyways, where was this young man's parents in all of this?

there for him...according to the story shortly before killing himself he told his mother "Mom, you don’t know how it feels to be hated."

How did you decipher that? His parents were only mentioned that one time. That's it.

You cannot extrapolate from him telling his mom about his anguish that his parents were 'there for him'. He committed suicide.

(04-17-2012 02:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:26 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Gentlemen, the herd just got a little thinner and what remains is a little stronger.

thats gross.

No, what's gross is a society where kids are forced to grow up without getting tough. Kids can't even win/lose a t-ball game anymore. You raise soft, weak sissys, you get soft, weak sissys. Is there anything about you that can allow you to be bullied into suicide?

further proof conservatism and aggression are linked...see how the GOP mind works...

(04-17-2012 02:26 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  But gayness goes against the bible

true

Quote:sinners should be publicly ridiculed in order to save their souls.

not true

Quote:That's why I always tell fat people that Jesus loves them but hates their ugly, sinful fat.

Can I get an amen?

do you do anything because of what the bible says? doesn't sound like you

(04-17-2012 02:34 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:26 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Gentlemen, the herd just got a little thinner and what remains is a little stronger.

thats gross.

No, what's gross is a society where kids are forced to grow up without getting tough. Kids can't even win/lose a t-ball game anymore. You raise soft, weak sissys, you get soft, weak sissys. Is there anything about you that can allow you to be bullied into suicide?

further proof conservatism and aggression are linked...see how the GOP mind works...

Ever play tackle football without the tackling? How do you think a guy that played that way would handle his first real tackle game? Not very well is my assumption - probably quit like a sniveling little pig dog.

And it's not aggression, it's preparation, experience, and hard work that drives success, not being hidden in mommy's womb until your wedding day. Why do you think drill sargeants are tough?

(04-17-2012 02:33 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:28 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:14 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:12 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I was bullied in middle school all the time. Got suspended for defending myself in a fight. 'Injustice' is the middle name of 'public schools'.

Heh, but "Our country would fall apart without them!"

I did a little investigation, and as much as I admire Ron Paul's tenacity and offensive approach to cutting federal departments that are unnecessary, the real issue with our education system is a lack of general oversight by the states and cities that are charged with the safety and freedoms of the students and faculty.

Bullying is a problem that the federal government has no power to address, because it isn't a federal problem. Those schools that can't inhibit in-school bullying should be disciplined with a lack of funding. However, I also did notice that Facebook harbored part of the bullying that was ongoing.

Anyways, where was this young man's parents in all of this?

there for him...according to the story shortly before killing himself he told his mother "Mom, you don’t know how it feels to be hated."

How did you decipher that? His parents were only mentioned that one time. That's it.

You cannot extrapolate from him telling his mom about his anguish that his parents were 'there for him'. He committed suicide.

and you cannot extrapolate the opposite...he clearly felt OK with talking to his mother about his problem...so i'm going to assume he has normal parents...or are you wanting to blame them?

(04-17-2012 02:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  there for him...according to the story shortly before killing himself he told his mother "Mom, you don’t know how it feels to be hated."

Apparently not, or they would have pulled him from the school.

So, the public schools overtly failed this kid, and you want to blame it on the people who would like to reform them.

(04-17-2012 02:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  and you cannot extrapolate the opposite.

Uh you made the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

(04-17-2012 02:42 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:34 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:26 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Gentlemen, the herd just got a little thinner and what remains is a little stronger.

thats gross.

No, what's gross is a society where kids are forced to grow up without getting tough. Kids can't even win/lose a t-ball game anymore. You raise soft, weak sissys, you get soft, weak sissys. Is there anything about you that can allow you to be bullied into suicide?

further proof conservatism and aggression are linked...see how the GOP mind works...

Ever play tackle football without the tackling? How do you think a guy that played that way would handle his first real tackle game? Not very well is my assumption - probably quit like a sniveling little pig dog.

And it's not aggression, it's preparation, experience, and hard work that drives success, not being hidden in mommy's womb until your wedding day. Why do you think drill sargeants are tough?

see talk of military and aggressive sports...violence and "mommy" insults...just more spreadin' that conservative gospel from Mr "thinning the herd"

so you like it when kids die...somehow we all knew it.

(04-17-2012 02:46 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  and you cannot extrapolate the opposite.

Uh you made the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

where is there a burden of proof? why do we have to prove someone is a good parent for them to be? and you asked the question...not me

(04-17-2012 02:45 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  there for him...according to the story shortly before killing himself he told his mother "Mom, you don’t know how it feels to be hated."

Apparently not, or they would have pulled him from the school.

So, the public schools overtly failed this kid, and you want to blame it on the people who would like to reform them.

you should be able to go to school without death threats...

(04-17-2012 02:49 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so you like it when kids die...somehow we all knew it.

Where did I ever say that? The kid killed himself because he wasn't taught to cope with his problems. I'm surprised you didn't accuse me of pulling the trigger.

(04-17-2012 02:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  you should be able to go to school without death threats...

Yes, you should. But how many kids get death threats every year and how many are actually killed by the people making the threats?

(04-17-2012 03:06 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  you should be able to go to school without death threats...

Yes, you should. But how many kids get death threats every year and how many are actually killed by the people making the threats?

agreed...as for the rest, if you want to talk stats go make a stats thread.

(04-17-2012 03:05 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:49 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so you like it when kids die...somehow we all knew it.

Where did I ever say that? The kid killed himself because he wasn't taught to cope with his problems. I'm surprised you didn't accuse me of pulling the trigger.

"Gentlemen, the herd just got a little thinner and what remains is a little stronger."

sure as hell sounds like approval to me...

(04-17-2012 02:24 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:14 PM)Max Power Wrote:  I'm angry at adults who encourage certain types of bullying.

yep, they want it to happen..."thins the herd" in their sick minds.

Sad, twisted, and sick individuals. Of course folks like smn1256 aren't going to give a rats ass if a gay kid kills himself. One less gay kid. Why would anybody think these type of scum would ever care? This is the kind of attitude that leads to deaths. I wish these kids would realize that the opinions of ignorant fools like smn1256 and his ilk don't matter in the slightest, but unfortunately at that age it's hard to wrap their heads around the fact that things do get better. It's a shame and a tragedy, but you have bitter people who are trying to prevent any assistance in this area because they want to be sure their kids have the right and freedom to bully gay kids with fairy tales and morality based on ancient myths. It's a screwed up world.

But it's changing... slowly. I think that's why some of these folks are so bitter and angry. They see their version of what life should be like, and what America should be like, slipping slowly but inexorably away. Gotta be a lot of grinding teeth out there in wingnut-land every time a new poll comes out showing a vast and growing majority of young people supporting gay rights and gay marriage. Their battle is lost.

The fools and haters are slowly being replaced - weeded out of the herd, if you will - and it can't happen soon enough.

(04-17-2012 03:11 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 03:05 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:49 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so you like it when kids die...somehow we all knew it.

Where did I ever say that? The kid killed himself because he wasn't taught to cope with his problems. I'm surprised you didn't accuse me of pulling the trigger.

"Gentlemen, the herd just got a little thinner and what remains is a little stronger."

sure as hell sounds like approval to me...

Of course it's approval. He's just saying aloud what many of these scumbags think. Sanctity of life.

(04-17-2012 02:51 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:46 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  and you cannot extrapolate the opposite.

Uh you made the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

where is there a burden of proof? why do we have to prove someone is a good parent for them to be? and you asked the question...not me

You don't want to be logical? Have at it. I know the left wants to revert back to superstitious, ignorant times. You're no surprise to me.

(04-17-2012 02:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:45 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 02:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  there for him...according to the story shortly before killing himself he told his mother "Mom, you don’t know how it feels to be hated."

Apparently not, or they would have pulled him from the school.

So, the public schools overtly failed this kid, and you want to blame it on the people who would like to reform them.

you should be able to go to school without death threats...

I agree. But if you get them, then the schools should do something about it. They didn't, ergo they failed.

This is straightforward easy enough for even you to understand.

You want to blame someone, then look at the 80+% Democrat public schools.