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RE: Charlotte Stadium Construction
15k? You realize the smallest current FBS stadium is Idaho with 16k. Then 11 with 20-29,999k.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCA...l_stadiums
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(05-13-2012 06:07 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(05-13-2012 05:48 PM)Niner National Wrote:  renting BoA costs $600,000...or did a few years ago, the price may have gone up since then.

BoA is not publicly owned, so ultimately it is up to the Richardson family.

Mr. Richardson might cut us a deal since he is a donor but I doubt it would be cheap enough for us to make any real money off of playing at BoA.

Richardson donated what, like a $1 million. No reason to give most of it back to him for one game. Maybe later, but not any time soon.
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(05-14-2012 09:03 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  15k? You realize the smallest current FBS stadium is Idaho with 16k. Then 11 with 20-29,999k.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCA...l_stadiums

You realize we've already stated we will have ATLEAST 17,800-20,300 starting in 2013 (for FCS) and are already discussing additional expansion beyond that. This would be in addition to the plans already in place for expansion to 40,000 (ie; we're looking at options for somewhere between 20,300 and 40,000). Again, remember we are playing FCS for the 1st 2 years.
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15,000 was the capacity for an FCS stadium. The stadium was always intended and therefore designed for expansion via "temporary" bleachers or the upper deck (to 40k+) for FBS play.

I am quite confident that Charlotte's first official FBS home game (in 2015) will be played in their OCS with no less than 25k seats.
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I don't have a clue how this will be resolved, but I expect it will be and be satisfactory to all parties involved. If more money can be made by the games being in BOA it wouldn't surprise me if they were moved there, and if not then I expect they won't be.
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(05-14-2012 09:30 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  People, relax:

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=517...pid6871478

Funny to read back through that thread. The ECU trolls were out and about.
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Only way ECU-Charlotte is at BOA is a neutral-site game every year.

Pretty sure that is not acceptable to ECU fans. Neither is giving up our home game for BOA.

You're going to get your 2500 required tickets. Take them and smile.
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ECU fans being happy?
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(05-13-2012 09:28 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  
(05-12-2012 11:11 AM)knightalum74 Wrote:  
(05-08-2012 11:50 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  Not to start a smack thread with our UCF folks but IMO that stadium already looks nicer then Brighthouse. Just need to get it expanded to 40-45k and you might as well do it now. I have always liked stadiums that are built into the ground as opposed to having to go straight up. I know ECU and some other schools at sea level do not have that option but it is a nice touch IMO. Congrats to Niner Fans...Time to get excited about Football

No argument, I'd agree it looks great and congrats to Charlotte, but honestly it's not really an apples to apples comparison. Unless I missed something, it sounds like the seating is only about 1/3 the capacity of what BHNS is..Not to mention we opened the entire athletics village, and new Arena ($107M) in the same year. BHNS accomplished its goal of bringing the games back onto campus, we've got plenty of years in front of us to improve the facilities and specifically BHNS. Again, no smack, I certainly recognize and appreciate what Charlotte has done, but UCF deserves some credit for all that has been done since 2007.

I think what UCF has done since joining CUSA is amazing. Brighthouse was a nice upgrade from playing at the Citrus Bowl IMO. The new Basketball Arena is a top notch facility and huge upgrade from the old place.


The Athletic Village at UCF (including the stadium and brand new arena) basically transformed UCF's campus almost overnight.

UCF is still the only school in the last 70-80 years that was able to build a large on-campus football stadium AND a 10,000 seat on-campus arena that the SAME TIME...all without any BCS Conf $$$$....as those two facilities opened up to the public the same week, just 6 days apart. (Arena opened up on Sunday, Stadium opened up 6 days later on Saturday vs Texas).

As others noted, the 75 year old off-campus Citrus Bowl was a total dump and UCF barely made a dime off that city-owned stadium...but now that GAMEDAYS are on-campus...I just wish UCF would have been able to move to campus much sooner.

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(05-14-2012 06:16 PM)49erlew Wrote:  Only way ECU-Charlotte is at BOA is a neutral-site game every year.

Pretty sure that is not acceptable to ECU fans. Neither is giving up our home game for BOA.

You're going to get your 2500 required tickets. Take them and smile.

I don't know what has or hasn't been talked about, but I assure you we'll be getting more than 2,500 tickets, and I assure you this has been talked about at length by our leadership and yours. I suspect it's a bunch of wasted talk on this board, as you guys should have enough seats to give us 4-5k like we'll want. I can't possibly imagine you'll be playing FBS football in a stadium any smaller than 25k, which would be enough to meet that allotment. Not to mention you'll probably make a killing jacking up those ticket prices for that game. My guess is you'll charge 60-70 a pop for our games, and you rightfully should as we have fans who'll pay it.
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(05-15-2012 07:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 06:16 PM)49erlew Wrote:  Only way ECU-Charlotte is at BOA is a neutral-site game every year.

Pretty sure that is not acceptable to ECU fans. Neither is giving up our home game for BOA.

You're going to get your 2500 required tickets. Take them and smile.

I don't know what has or hasn't been talked about, but I assure you we'll be getting more than 2,500 tickets, and I assure you this has been talked about at length by our leadership and yours. I suspect it's a bunch of wasted talk on this board, as you guys should have enough seats to give us 4-5k like we'll want. I can't possibly imagine you'll be playing FBS football in a stadium any smaller than 25k, which would be enough to meet that allotment. Not to mention you'll probably make a killing jacking up those ticket prices for that game. My guess is you'll charge 60-70 a pop for our games, and you rightfully should as we have fans who'll pay it.

This makes more sense than anything else I've seen posted. It's simply a big supply and demand equation, basic economics. Limited space and the close proximity of the schools causes a larger than average demand, raising ticket prices, and creating an excellent game-day atmosphere. It's win-win.
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(05-15-2012 08:08 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(05-15-2012 07:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 06:16 PM)49erlew Wrote:  Only way ECU-Charlotte is at BOA is a neutral-site game every year.

Pretty sure that is not acceptable to ECU fans. Neither is giving up our home game for BOA.

You're going to get your 2500 required tickets. Take them and smile.

I don't know what has or hasn't been talked about, but I assure you we'll be getting more than 2,500 tickets, and I assure you this has been talked about at length by our leadership and yours. I suspect it's a bunch of wasted talk on this board, as you guys should have enough seats to give us 4-5k like we'll want. I can't possibly imagine you'll be playing FBS football in a stadium any smaller than 25k, which would be enough to meet that allotment. Not to mention you'll probably make a killing jacking up those ticket prices for that game. My guess is you'll charge 60-70 a pop for our games, and you rightfully should as we have fans who'll pay it.

This makes more sense than anything else I've seen posted. It's simply a big supply and demand equation, basic economics. Limited space and the close proximity of the schools causes a larger than average demand, raising ticket prices, and creating an excellent game-day atmosphere. It's win-win.

I agree, and I want our games to be at your stadium. College football games are meant to be played on campus. I suspect you'll charge for that game much like we charge for games against NC State, UNC, VT, and WVU. We charge a premium for those games as opposed to our conference games. Usually the marque games have a ticket price of 60 or so and the conference games are around 40 for individual tickets. I expect you guys would charge high individual ticket prices for our games, and if you guys show a willingness to sell your allotment against us I'd expect us to start charging a premium for games against you in the Fick. It is a good thing for everyone involved.
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(05-15-2012 08:08 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(05-15-2012 07:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 06:16 PM)49erlew Wrote:  Only way ECU-Charlotte is at BOA is a neutral-site game every year.

Pretty sure that is not acceptable to ECU fans. Neither is giving up our home game for BOA.

You're going to get your 2500 required tickets. Take them and smile.

I don't know what has or hasn't been talked about, but I assure you we'll be getting more than 2,500 tickets, and I assure you this has been talked about at length by our leadership and yours. I suspect it's a bunch of wasted talk on this board, as you guys should have enough seats to give us 4-5k like we'll want. I can't possibly imagine you'll be playing FBS football in a stadium any smaller than 25k, which would be enough to meet that allotment. Not to mention you'll probably make a killing jacking up those ticket prices for that game. My guess is you'll charge 60-70 a pop for our games, and you rightfully should as we have fans who'll pay it.

This makes more sense than anything else I've seen posted. It's simply a big supply and demand equation, basic economics. Limited space and the close proximity of the schools causes a larger than average demand, raising ticket prices, and creating an excellent game-day atmosphere. It's win-win.

This already happens with NCSU, Chapel Hill and USC, among other universities we play.

We are in the tier 1 mini-package for UNC, along with Virginia Tech and NC State.

We are also the highest priced non-conference game for USC this fall.

For the NCSU game in 2008, a mini-pack or season tickets were the only way to get a ticket from that university.
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(05-15-2012 08:31 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  
(05-15-2012 08:08 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(05-15-2012 07:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 06:16 PM)49erlew Wrote:  Only way ECU-Charlotte is at BOA is a neutral-site game every year.

Pretty sure that is not acceptable to ECU fans. Neither is giving up our home game for BOA.

You're going to get your 2500 required tickets. Take them and smile.

I don't know what has or hasn't been talked about, but I assure you we'll be getting more than 2,500 tickets, and I assure you this has been talked about at length by our leadership and yours. I suspect it's a bunch of wasted talk on this board, as you guys should have enough seats to give us 4-5k like we'll want. I can't possibly imagine you'll be playing FBS football in a stadium any smaller than 25k, which would be enough to meet that allotment. Not to mention you'll probably make a killing jacking up those ticket prices for that game. My guess is you'll charge 60-70 a pop for our games, and you rightfully should as we have fans who'll pay it.

This makes more sense than anything else I've seen posted. It's simply a big supply and demand equation, basic economics. Limited space and the close proximity of the schools causes a larger than average demand, raising ticket prices, and creating an excellent game-day atmosphere. It's win-win.

This already happens with NCSU, Chapel Hill and USC, among other universities we play.

We are in the tier 1 mini-package for UNC, along with Virginia Tech and NC State.

We are also the highest priced non-conference game for USC this fall.

For the NCSU game in 2008, a mini-pack or season tickets were the only way to get a ticket from that university.

I think UNC has actually come around more on the idea of playing us, because they have realized they need the help selling tickets and we buy seats in bunches. NC State isn't ever going to accept that playing us would be good for everyone, but they also view us as more of a threat to them than UNC does.
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I know ECU fans hate NCSU more than UNC-CHeat, but I never understood it. I've always gotten a much more respectful & friendly vibe from Pack fans than UNC-CHeat fans toward Charlotte and ECU. Anyone enlighten me a bit?
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(05-15-2012 08:41 AM)TribeNiner Wrote:  I know ECU fans hate NCSU more than UNC-CHeat, but I never understood it. I've always gotten a much more respectful & friendly vibe from Pack fans than UNC-CHeat fans toward Charlotte and ECU. Anyone enlighten me a bit?

Not all ECU fans hate NCSU more than the Holes. However, there are huge differences in the way each fan base treats us. Both view themselves as above us and better than us, but the the Pack fans are much nastier about it. I've never been treated with any level of disrespect at a Hole game, or threatened in any way, however it happens at ever Pack game I've ever been to. I think it's because Pack fans view us as much more of a real threat to them. The hole fans don't believe we are even really competition to them, while the Pack fans know we are but just don't want to have to admit it to themselves. They can't accept that our series is competitive and instead anytime we win a game against them in football (which since 1990 we lead the series) they want to fire all their coaches and cancel all future games.
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(05-15-2012 07:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 06:16 PM)49erlew Wrote:  Only way ECU-Charlotte is at BOA is a neutral-site game every year.

Pretty sure that is not acceptable to ECU fans. Neither is giving up our home game for BOA.

You're going to get your 2500 required tickets. Take them and smile.

I don't know what has or hasn't been talked about, but I assure you we'll be getting more than 2,500 tickets, and I assure you this has been talked about at length by our leadership and yours. I suspect it's a bunch of wasted talk on this board, as you guys should have enough seats to give us 4-5k like we'll want. I can't possibly imagine you'll be playing FBS football in a stadium any smaller than 25k, which would be enough to meet that allotment. Not to mention you'll probably make a killing jacking up those ticket prices for that game. My guess is you'll charge 60-70 a pop for our games, and you rightfully should as we have fans who'll pay it.
I think we'll spend probably 1 season at FBS with less than 25,000. Construction on the expansion, if the current budget proposal is correct, will begin in 2015. Figure it will take a year to complete. (?)

We play ECU away in 2015 and ECU comes to our 40,000 seat stadium in 2016 and everyone is happy.
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(05-15-2012 08:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-15-2012 08:41 AM)TribeNiner Wrote:  I know ECU fans hate NCSU more than UNC-CHeat, but I never understood it. I've always gotten a much more respectful & friendly vibe from Pack fans than UNC-CHeat fans toward Charlotte and ECU. Anyone enlighten me a bit?

Not all ECU fans hate NCSU more than the Holes. However, there are huge differences in the way each fan base treats us. Both view themselves as above us and better than us, but the the Pack fans are much nastier about it. I've never been treated with any level of disrespect at a Hole game, or threatened in any way, however it happens at ever Pack game I've ever been to. I think it's because Pack fans view us as much more of a real threat to them. The hole fans don't believe we are even really competition to them, while the Pack fans know we are but just don't want to have to admit it to themselves. They can't accept that our series is competitive and instead anytime we win a game against them in football (which since 1990 we lead the series) they want to fire all their coaches and cancel all future games.
Tarheel fans are usually not very snobby about football. They know it's not their strength. State fans think they're a football school even though they're not much better than the Tarheels.
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(05-15-2012 08:53 AM)Niner National Wrote:  
(05-15-2012 07:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-14-2012 06:16 PM)49erlew Wrote:  Only way ECU-Charlotte is at BOA is a neutral-site game every year.

Pretty sure that is not acceptable to ECU fans. Neither is giving up our home game for BOA.

You're going to get your 2500 required tickets. Take them and smile.

I don't know what has or hasn't been talked about, but I assure you we'll be getting more than 2,500 tickets, and I assure you this has been talked about at length by our leadership and yours. I suspect it's a bunch of wasted talk on this board, as you guys should have enough seats to give us 4-5k like we'll want. I can't possibly imagine you'll be playing FBS football in a stadium any smaller than 25k, which would be enough to meet that allotment. Not to mention you'll probably make a killing jacking up those ticket prices for that game. My guess is you'll charge 60-70 a pop for our games, and you rightfully should as we have fans who'll pay it.
I think we'll spend probably 1 season at FBS with less than 25,000. Construction on the expansion, if the current budget proposal is correct, will begin in 2015. Figure it will take a year to complete. (?)

We play ECU away in 2015 and ECU comes to our 40,000 seat stadium in 2016 and everyone is happy.

That would probably work better for everyone if true. Either way this thing will all settle itself.
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