catdaddy_2402
I'm not an ACC cheerleader
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RE: Interview with Swofford
(05-28-2012 03:51 PM)omniorange Wrote: (05-28-2012 03:40 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote: (05-28-2012 02:50 PM)omniorange Wrote: (05-28-2012 02:37 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote: (05-28-2012 01:46 PM)omniorange Wrote: I find it ironic that a fan of a school whose OOC schedule over the past 5 years have included:
2007 - Louisiana-Monroe and Furman
2008 - Citadel and SC State
2009 - Middle Tenn St and Coastal Carolina
2010 - North Texas and Presbyterian
2011 - Troy and Wofford
is now concerned about SOS?!?
Cheers,
Neil
We have at minimum one BCS OOC game every single year with South Carolina. We also have at least one in-state FCS team every year (as does South Carolina) at the request of our General Assembly. Every year Clemson starts out with leeway to schedule only two, soon to be one because of the BS 9th ACC game, OOC opponent because of in-state commitments.
2007 - The second half of a home and home that was postponed by Auburn at the last minute. La-Monroe was the only FBS team who agreed to play.
Central Michigan, who you also missed, was the MAC team sent to replace Temple, who had to drop the 3rd game of a three game series we signed with them when the Big East kicked them out. CMU was the MAC Champion that year.
2008 - I noticed you forgot Alabama. Wish I could.
FWIW we played SC State only after La Tech bought out of the game we were supposed to play in Shreveport to play Army in West Point. The game was bought out in mid-late Feb, and there was no other FBS team with an available opening. (FWIW GT also had 2 FCS games that year for the same reason...Army bought out of the GT game to play La Tech)
We dropped a one and done with Central Florida to play Alabama in Atlanta.
2009 - Notice you forgot TCU.
BTW, MTSU went 10-3 that year, only losing to us , Troy, and Mississippi State. They did beat Maryland though.
2010 - Notice you forgot Auburn..you know, the National Champs that year? Took 'em to overtime.
2011 - Notice you forgot Auburn.
Also, our scheduling philosophy was changing under Swinney. Bowden just wanted to assure 6 wins. Swinney, coming from Alabama as a player and a coach, knows that playing tougher competition, and in the ACC that means OOC, means bigger gates and it prepares your team for higher profile postseason play. The past two years the schedules have been under the Swinney plan, as are the UGA series (that we are going to lose a home game and revenue to play) and the upcoming series we would have had against Oklahoma State and other SEC teams. We are going to have to decide to go further in the hole to South Carolina revenue wise by always having just 6 home football games or just play one interesting OOC game to ensure we have 7 at home.
You're missing your own point. You claim to be worried about SOS and having Duke on your schedule as the 9th team will hurt that. Yet Duke is no worse, probably better, than any of the teams I listed above. May not be in terms of attendance, I don't know, but in terms of SOS I'm pretty sure having Duke on your schedule and losing one of the above will actually help, especially since SOS includes how well the opponent's opponents are playing.
Obviously I wouldn't list the likes of Auburn or Alabama in terms of hurting SOS. I realize you may not have much respect for SU fans, but many do know college football.
You do realize that the Big 12 will require 9 conference games as well, right? It looks like only the BiG and SEC will try and retain the 8 game conference schedule and I believe that is the main reason why Slive says going to 14 is troublesome.
Cheers,
Neil
No, you aren't getting it.
With the 9th ACC game the only thing that is going to change after the UGA series is there will no longer be a SOS booster like Alabama, Auburn, TCU, Oklahoma State.
Our OOC will be South Carolina H/A, in-state FCS, and the MTSU's/North Texas's/etc. In the place of the Bama/Auburn/etc. game will be the Dukes/UNCs/UVAs.
We can't, without facing severe repercussions, drop the in-state FCS game. It might as well be in the SC Code of Law because when the SC General Assembly "suggests" to a state agency that they do something, it gets done or else.
We aren't dropping South Carolina to play anybody.
We depend on the revenue generated by the 7th home game to fund the rest of the athletic department. The town of Clemson also depends on the revenue generated by anywhere from 70-85k fans coming to visit seven times a year. Remember, when Clemson has a home game it becomes the 4th highest populated city in the state of SC. We are already going to be anywhere from $8 - $15 million in revenue behind South Carolina and Georgia because of the TV contracts, bowl revenue, etc. We can't afford to give up an additional $2 million a year by only having 6 home games, especially when the facts are we get 3 assured sellouts with out current schedule...FSU, GT, and South Carolina. You find us a high profile OOC opponent each year that is willing to play us one and done at home each year and I'll quit whining. Until then realize there is a world of difference between a school who brings in 70k minimum regardless of opponent and one that can add two home games and struggle to top that number.
Now before anybody says it...I know....Syracuse will bring hordes and hordes of fans when they come. Looking at the history of fans you have had at southern bowl games...pardon me if I don't hold my breath.
You're going to get that in the Big 12 as well with 9 games OOC. Or do you think that when you and FSU go, that ESPN is magically going to say it's okay now to go back to 8 games in conference?
Cheers,
Neil
I can live with it if it means we close the revenue gap with South Carolina and Georgia. The Big XII payout ensures that, the ACC payout doesn't.
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