http://chronicle.com/blogs/players/jim-d...ches/30771

Excerpts:

Big Ten officials are still in the early stages of debating how to handle fallout from the scandal. Among other ideas, the league’s presidents and chancellors could consider removing Penn State from the conference, one Big Ten leader told The Chronicle.

The Big Ten Conference Handbook, which governs the league’s operations, does not contain language addressing a situation as egregious as what happened at Penn State.

But the conference’s bylaws prescribe potentially severe penalties for member institutions that break lesser rules. Any Big Ten university that employs or retains workers who intentionally falsify or deliberately fail to provide complete and accurate information during an investigation may be required to “show cause why its membership in the conference should not be suspended or terminated,” the Big Ten’s 2011-12 handbook says.

The Big Ten’s 12-member Council of Presidents and Chancellors must approve any decision to suspend, expel, or place on probation any member of the conference. According to the conference handbook, expulsion requires a vote of not less than 60 percent of the full council (a Big Ten spokesman said that figure is actually 70 percent, or eight members, which will be reflected in the 2012-13 handbook).

The Big Ten does not have a contingency scheduling plan should Penn State’s football team be banned from playing this or any season, a senior league official told The Chronicle. But fallout from the scandal has many Big Ten leaders on edge.

“This whole situation is unprecedented,” said Sally Mason, president of the University of Iowa and chair of the Council of Presidents and Chancellors. “It’s sports-related, but there were very significant moral, legal, and institutional failures.”

She and her colleagues plan to discuss those problems in coming weeks, but she has no early sign of what they may decide. “Until all of our presidents and chancellors sit down and talk in depth,” she said, “I have no idea of what the outcome is likely to be, and I wouldn’t want to predict.”

If they vote on the expulsion of Penn State, only 11 votes will count...

Penn State probably want be allowed to vote...

it will be 11 out of 11.

Guess we'll see just how high-minded the Big Ten really is. Cracks me up that the biggest talkers of "academics" and "student athletes" and "grand experiments" are the biggest jokers in practice, see Penn St, the Big Ten re: OSU/Sugar Bowl (& what of this Delaney scandal re: hooking up with Ole Miss co-eds during an investigation?), UNC football, Miami football, ACC's repeated underhand attempts to destroy the Big East, etc etc.

IMO, absolute worst case that PSU would see is that the B1G "boots" PSU out of the conference for a few years and monitor how the university does in enacting changes to prevent something like the Sandusky scandal from happening again. Once it is given the green light that the B1G is satisfied with PSU's efforts, then they will be invited back into the conference. In the mean time, PSU plays and "independent" schedule which, by luck, would be composed of 8 or 9 B1G schools for that year or 2 of independence...

Truthfully, I don't think PSU will get booted, but will likely be punished by the B1G by being barred from post season bowls or few scholarships for FB.

(07-19-2012 10:03 AM)miko33 Wrote:  IMO, absolute worst case that PSU would see is that the B1G "boots" PSU out of the conference for a few years and monitor how the university does in enacting changes to prevent something like the Sandusky scandal from happening again. Once it is given the green light that the B1G is satisfied with PSU's efforts, then they will be invited back into the conference. In the mean time, PSU plays and "independent" schedule which, by luck, would be composed of 8 or 9 B1G schools for that year or 2 of independence...

Truthfully, I don't think PSU will get booted, but will likely be punished by the B1G by being barred from post season bowls or few scholarships for FB.

That schedule you mention being indy Miko- not really possible. It'd be 2013 and 2014 seasons. The problem is that most of the Big Ten schools have their OOC schedule set.

They aren't getting booted. They may get banned from playing in conference championship events, representing in conference bowl slots and/or the loss of some of their non-BTN revenue for a few years.

The Big Ten realizes that they have to do something significant to protect the gravy train. If not expelling or suspending Penn State, then it's a serious change in governance like giving the conference the power to fire a coach. (Not that it would matter--anywhere but Penn State, Paterno would have been fired along with Sandusky in 1998 or shortly thereafter.)

My prediction of Notre dame and penn state to the acc may come true after all...

The Big Ten won't do anything to PSU other than voting to send them a letter disapproving of their conduct or something like that.

(07-19-2012 10:09 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:03 AM)miko33 Wrote:  IMO, absolute worst case that PSU would see is that the B1G "boots" PSU out of the conference for a few years and monitor how the university does in enacting changes to prevent something like the Sandusky scandal from happening again. Once it is given the green light that the B1G is satisfied with PSU's efforts, then they will be invited back into the conference. In the mean time, PSU plays and "independent" schedule which, by luck, would be composed of 8 or 9 B1G schools for that year or 2 of independence...

Truthfully, I don't think PSU will get booted, but will likely be punished by the B1G by being barred from post season bowls or few scholarships for FB.

That schedule you mention being indy Miko- not really possible. It'd be 2013 and 2014 seasons. The problem is that most of the Big Ten schools have their OOC schedule set.

Not necessarily. I'm not sure if they are playing 8 or 9 conf games. If they are playing 8, then it could be done but would be very hard. If they are playing 9, then they could easily fall back to 8 to accommodate PSU.

(07-19-2012 10:40 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:09 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:03 AM)miko33 Wrote:  IMO, absolute worst case that PSU would see is that the B1G "boots" PSU out of the conference for a few years and monitor how the university does in enacting changes to prevent something like the Sandusky scandal from happening again. Once it is given the green light that the B1G is satisfied with PSU's efforts, then they will be invited back into the conference. In the mean time, PSU plays and "independent" schedule which, by luck, would be composed of 8 or 9 B1G schools for that year or 2 of independence...

Truthfully, I don't think PSU will get booted, but will likely be punished by the B1G by being barred from post season bowls or few scholarships for FB.

That schedule you mention being indy Miko- not really possible. It'd be 2013 and 2014 seasons. The problem is that most of the Big Ten schools have their OOC schedule set.

Not necessarily. I'm not sure if they are playing 8 or 9 conf games. If they are playing 8, then it could be done but would be very hard. If they are playing 9, then they could easily fall back to 8 to accommodate PSU.

In 2013 and 2014- the years where it would happen, they're playing 8 conference games. Most of the teams have 4 OOC games scheduled in both of the years.

The Big 10 wont kick out PSU. They are the epitome of old guard.

Penn State is not old guard, jared, especially not in the B1G...

I don't think they'll kick out Penn State, but it's telling that they are willing to discuss it. That's a big deal.

Just remember PSU now has a tainted image and the Big 10 is very much about image. Rutgers could easily replace PSU, and keep the Big 10 in Philly and the Big Apple.

I doubt they will kick out Penn State, but you never know.

I think it's also interesting that Delany is asking for power to fire coaches. I think that is whack.

(07-19-2012 10:57 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Just remember PSU now has a tainted image and the Big 10 is very much about image. Rutgers could easily replace PSU, and keep the Big 12 in Philly and the Big Apple.

Everyone needs to talk tough right now in the media about hypothetical nuclear options (e.g. the NCAA, Big Ten) because the public is out for so much blood, but there's going to be a point where the news cycle subsides and the powers that be will step back some months (or even years) from now and they'll dole out punishment that might maim but certainly won't kill Penn State. There won't be any death penalty or conference expulsion.

(07-19-2012 10:57 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Just remember PSU now has a tainted image and the Big 10 is very much about image. Rutgers could easily replace PSU, and keep the Big 12 in Philly and the Big Apple.

Given the Rutgers is the last of the original BE that hasn't found a new home in one of the "Power Conferences" I could see them working the phones really hard right now trying to make this happen.....

(07-19-2012 11:05 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:57 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Just remember PSU now has a tainted image and the Big 10 is very much about image. Rutgers could easily replace PSU, and keep the Big 12 in Philly and the Big Apple.

Everyone needs to talk tough right now in the media about hypothetical nuclear options (e.g. the NCAA, Big Ten) because the public is out for so much blood, but there's going to be a point where the news cycle subsides and the powers that be will step back some months (or even years) from now and they'll dole out punishment that might maim but certainly won't kill Penn State. There won't be any death penalty or conference expulsion.

I agree with you about conference expulsion, but I think there's a much better chance that the FB program will be shut down for some period of time. Not saying it will happen, only saying that I wouldn't bet on either side of the option right now.