(12-07-2012 12:08 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Mark Blaudschun has some very good Big East sources. He posted this article on November 28th. My guess is that it was a trial balloon. I think its very likley that this is exactly what is being discussed behind closed doors and this is the compromise that was reached to keep the Catholic schools from dissolving the football side of the conference.

No one was dissolving anything. You don't tear down the house if you have nowhere else to go.

How would he really know, though, he hasn't bothered to ask any networks what they are willing to pay.

(12-06-2012 11:17 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 10:59 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 10:58 PM)Boise fan Wrote:  I just hope the contract gets negotiated soon. I'm getting tired of the wait and the lack of anything concrete. And the message boards are so speculative it's driving me nuts!

I'm more tired of all the cusa'ers and mwc'ers coming over and saying how the be is doomed and won't get any money

i am just happy ecu fans have quit doing it

Well the Big East did finally quiet some of it's loudest critics.

amen....and kudos for the sense of humor.

I don't expect that the power basketball programs not playing the southern schools as often as they play each other will go over well in Memphis, but if that keeps the conference together; it's all good in the long run.

Honestly, it won't matter. Temple is still going to play Villanova every year; in fact, when we joined they thought that Temple and Villanova would end up playing twice each season. But things could have changed. It'd be great to play UConn and Georgetown more frequently.

(12-07-2012 12:12 AM)LaBradfordsTWill Wrote:  I really wish Louisville could have been a part of a revamped Big East. It's going to take some getting used to being in the ACC. Conference realignment sucks donkey balls.

Be happy you're going to be out.

It's going to be a running joke in the college football world and only the "brand name" basketball schools will get any respect under this squirrelly mess.

I think it's obvious that Cincy and UConn want out ASAP and it's clear that the media deal will be a loosely held together confederacy with three focus groups - football only, catholic basketball schools and "full membership" expansion schools - with USF thrown in that group.

Yuck.

(12-07-2012 12:16 AM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 12:08 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Mark Blaudschun has some very good Big East sources. He posted this article on November 28th. My guess is that it was a trial balloon. I think its very likley that this is exactly what is being discussed behind closed doors and this is the compromise that was reached to keep the Catholic schools from dissolving the football side of the conference.

No one was dissolving anything. You don't tear down the house if you have nowhere else to go.

The basketball schools wouldnt have to go anywhere. The Big East would exist as it was orignally established---as a basketball conference. It would just no longer sponser FBS football. That would have no affect on the Big East schools that do not play FBS football.

The basketball 'divisions', if this happens, would be nothing short of a ploy to keep the basketball only schools from spliting away IMO. Sorry - but that's how I read that. It's looking more and more like we're running in crisis mode.

(12-07-2012 12:20 AM)ScreamShatter Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:17 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:08 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 10:59 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I'm more tired of all the cusa'ers and mwc'ers coming over and saying how the be is doomed and won't get any money

i am just happy ecu fans have quit doing it

Well the Big East did finally quiet some of it's loudest critics.

amen....and kudos for the sense of humor.

I don't expect that the power basketball programs not playing the southern schools as often as they play each other will go over well in Memphis, but if that keeps the conference together; it's all good in the long run.

Honestly, it won't matter. Temple is still going to play Villanova every year; in fact, when we joined they thought that Temple and Villanova would end up playing twice each season. But things could have changed. It'd be great to play UConn and Georgetown more frequently.

Personally, I'm OK with it, but I'm a 75% football/25% basketball guy. There are a good number of Memphis fans that are opposite of that, and they will have some angst over it. If segmenting old/new divisions coupled with western additions mostly stabilizes the conference, its all good news for everyone.

We don't know if his same sales pitch was repeated, but not reported, how many times are papers going to quote that if they're trying to write a negative article. I mean really?

(12-07-2012 12:30 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  The basketball 'divisions', if this happens, would be nothing short of a ploy to keep the basketball only schools from spliting away IMO. Sorry - but that's how I read that. It's looking more and more like we're running in crisis mode.

^^^^^THIS^^^^

Its a marriage of convenience. There are few real ties in this group. It is what it is.

(12-07-2012 12:30 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  The basketball 'divisions', if this happens, would be nothing short of a ploy to keep the basketball only schools from spliting away IMO. Sorry - but that's how I read that. It's looking more and more like we're running in crisis mode.

Welcome aboard the USS Reality.

I honestly couldn't care less anymore about what happens to the Big East. There are some good schools with loyal fans who have stuck it out for a whole lot of lean years hoping to see something better than what this is turning out to be . . . of course, nobody knows what "this" is yet.

Sucks for those schools, their fans, their alumni, etc. I hope the schools that stick around make the very best of the situation while always keeping an eye out for better.

(12-07-2012 12:00 AM)smu89 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:23 PM)TigerFan444 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:03 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  The b ball schools are going to play fewer games against the new all sports adds but more against each other how will that go down

The way it is going to go down is that USF is getting doubly-screwed. Cincy and Uconn will surely be in that "brand name" clique that plays home and home, but USF, a member since 2004, will be stuck playing UCF, ECU, Houston, SMU, etc.

You'll be tripley-screwed after your first loss.

If i were a USF fan i'd be livid. This isn't about wins/losses. It is about USF basically being kicked half-way out of the basketball half of the Big East.

The new structure Aresco is touting basically creates two tiers of Big East basketball.

Whatever makes the most dollars, makes the most sense.


End of story. I have no problem with that.


But then, I like the full roster. And the tourney at MSG is going to be open season on everybody.

(12-07-2012 12:35 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 12:30 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  The basketball 'divisions', if this happens, would be nothing short of a ploy to keep the basketball only schools from spliting away IMO. Sorry - but that's how I read that. It's looking more and more like we're running in crisis mode.

^^^^^THIS^^^^

Its a marriage of convenience. There are few real ties in this group. It is what it is.

It truly is AttackCoog.

The most recent quotes by Aresco really make the nBE look like a joint venture, not a real conference.

(12-07-2012 12:45 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Whatever makes the most dollars, makes the most sense.


End of story. I have no problem with that.

It doesn't seem like a good recipe for a long shelf life.

It's a Mexican standoff at this point. Bb schools, all sports "south" schools, and football outpost schools

(12-07-2012 12:46 AM)Fireman451 Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 12:45 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Whatever makes the most dollars, makes the most sense.


End of story. I have no problem with that.

It doesn't seem like a good recipe for a long shelf life.

If you ask me, any conference going above 12 teams isn't a great recipe. I remember when 12 was looked at as an abomination.

I just happen to feel that the Big City Basketball conference can work just fine. The basketball side has a lot more in common than the football side.

Let's just get this thing started already.

(12-07-2012 12:46 AM)Fireman451 Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 12:35 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 12:30 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  The basketball 'divisions', if this happens, would be nothing short of a ploy to keep the basketball only schools from spliting away IMO. Sorry - but that's how I read that. It's looking more and more like we're running in crisis mode.

^^^^^THIS^^^^

Its a marriage of convenience. There are few real ties in this group. It is what it is.

It truly is AttackCoog.

The most recent quotes by Aresco really make the nBE look like a joint venture, not a real conference.

And that's why the additions should/need to center around making a best of the rest football conference - the rest of you can figure out how to work with basketball, but, we need to construct the best 12-16 teams that will go to BCS games and have the SOS to allow teams to go to bcs games most years.

(12-07-2012 12:55 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 12:46 AM)Fireman451 Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 12:45 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Whatever makes the most dollars, makes the most sense.


End of story. I have no problem with that.

It doesn't seem like a good recipe for a long shelf life.

If you ask me, any conference going above 12 teams isn't a great recipe. I remember when 12 was looked at as an abomination.

I just happen to feel that the Big City conference can work just fine. The basketball side has a lot more in common than the football side.

Let's just get this thing started already.

Well, we are going to 14. So, lets just hope #14 is an addition we can get excited about.

(12-07-2012 12:54 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  It's a Mexican standoff at this point. Bb schools, all sports "south" schools, and football outpost schools

You got it.

(12-07-2012 12:54 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  It's a Mexican standoff at this point. Bb schools, all sports "south" schools, and football outpost schools

and the vaunted bball schools had an average RPI of more than 100 last year. They should be holding a cap gun