(03-03-2013 11:35 PM)ULdave Wrote:  The three leftovers are losing the most in the conference realignment. They deserve the money more than any incoming school.

ok so now we have the C7,The Big 3 and Newbies. It looks like it's a very school for themselfs in this battle.
"pigs get fatter and hogs get slaughter"

(03-03-2013 11:35 PM)ULdave Wrote:  The three leftovers are losing the most in the conference realignment. They deserve the money more than any incoming school.

Excuse me if I don't shed a tear that they are "losing the most".. since they have been getting paid a ton more since 2005... (don't they have a big enough head start already?)

The logic of that line of thinking is downright absurd and isn't reflective of the partnership entered into last year with the incoming programs.

(03-03-2013 11:40 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 11:35 PM)ULdave Wrote:  The three leftovers are losing the most in the conference realignment. They deserve the money more than any incoming school.

F that. 2 of the 3 are half out the door. They are purposely getting the c-7 out in 2013 so they don't have to share $$$. Remember 2 of the 3 can care less about the name since they will be gone.

This is what I have been saying but I was call a troll.

(03-03-2013 11:46 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 11:35 PM)ULdave Wrote:  The three leftovers are losing the most in the conference realignment. They deserve the money more than any incoming school.

Excuse me if I don't shed a tear that they are "losing the most".. since they have been getting paid a ton more since 2005... (don't they have a big enough head start already?)

The logic of that line of thinking is downright absurd and isn't reflective of the partnership entered into last year with the incoming programs.

lol....Im noticing a different theme to you signature.....

(03-03-2013 11:33 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 11:27 PM)pearland1 Wrote:  Aresco is pushing for this so he must be getting a cut from the 3 to get this done asap.

Getting this done early is big $$$ for the 3 and it steals from the newbies. Think about it. If the c-7 stays another year, we all get the $$$ and the name vote or more $$$.

I'm for starting a new league. We aren't leaving much on the table. If the big east blows up there are no exit fees.

I agree, UM, UCF, Hou, SMU, ECU, Tul, Tulsa & USM start there on league. Invite Cincy, UConn, USF & Temple to join, where are they going? Maske them pay an entry fee. In 2015 invite Navy & Marshall in case Cincy & UConn leaves. You don't think NBC would offer us the same deal.

Cincinnati and Connecticut have already given up on the Big East and they do not care about what happens to any other school but themselves. I predict that Cincinnati and Connecticut will maximize their losses giving them a nice cushion period until the ACC is raided. The incoming schools are not entitled to any of the funds and have zero leverage to make any demands. It sucks but it is what it is...

(03-04-2013 12:02 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Cincinnati and Connecticut have already given up on the Big East and they do not care about what happens to any other school but themselves. I predict that Cincinnati and Connecticut will maximize their losses giving them a nice cushion period until the ACC is raided. The incoming schools are not entitled to any of the funds and have zero leverage to make any demands. It sucks but it is what it is...

We start a new conference & say to the Big 3 you want to play, you pay. Then what are you going to do?

(03-04-2013 12:05 AM)whitey Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 12:02 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Cincinnati and Connecticut have already given up on the Big East and they do not care about what happens to any other school but themselves. I predict that Cincinnati and Connecticut will maximize their losses giving them a nice cushion period until the ACC is raided. The incoming schools are not entitled to any of the funds and have zero leverage to make any demands. It sucks but it is what it is...

We start a new conference & say to the Big 3 you want to play, you pay. Then what are you going to do?

Yeah, good luck with that

(03-04-2013 12:05 AM)whitey Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 12:02 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Cincinnati and Connecticut have already given up on the Big East and they do not care about what happens to any other school but themselves. I predict that Cincinnati and Connecticut will maximize their losses giving them a nice cushion period until the ACC is raided. The incoming schools are not entitled to any of the funds and have zero leverage to make any demands. It sucks but it is what it is...

We start a new conference & say to the Big 3 you want to play, you pay. Then what are you going to do?

we might as well get a few other teams on the phone and form a new conference. uconn, cincy and usf while all fine schools are not irreplaceable. southern miss, tulsa, rice. we are back where were and they can play with themselves. it could happen.

null and void.

(03-04-2013 12:07 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 12:05 AM)whitey Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 12:02 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Cincinnati and Connecticut have already given up on the Big East and they do not care about what happens to any other school but themselves. I predict that Cincinnati and Connecticut will maximize their losses giving them a nice cushion period until the ACC is raided. The incoming schools are not entitled to any of the funds and have zero leverage to make any demands. It sucks but it is what it is...

We start a new conference & say to the Big 3 you want to play, you pay. Then what are you going to do?

Yeah, good luck with that

We signed up to play in the Big East, there's no more Big East for us. I think that's a breach in the contract, that we no longer have to abide by.

The C7 want the Big East name so bad because they know how important it is for their recruting. The new schools must fight to keep the Big East name. Every school sign to play in the Big East. The C7 are already talking to the ACC about the Big East and ACC playing basketball against each other.

(03-04-2013 12:02 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Cincinnati and Connecticut have already given up on the Big East and they do not care about what happens to any other school but themselves. I predict that Cincinnati and Connecticut will maximize their losses giving them a nice cushion period until the ACC is raided. The incoming schools are not entitled to any of the funds and have zero leverage to make any demands. It sucks but it is what it is...

The incoming schools have every right to call 'Rat' when decisions are being made (sell name, early exit)... in the interest of 3... and are at the expense of the majority, and against the long range interests of the conference as a whole (the name specifically).

The decision to sell the name flys in the face of everything that Aresco has stated publicly about branding and his vision for the conference. Most pundits have come out and stated that the ball is in the football schools court - as it pertains to keeping the name. The decision to sell only benefits 3 universities and hurts everyone.

It undermines the good faith of the agreement each incoming team subscribed to when they accepted their invite.

UH,Tulane,SMU,UCF,Memphis,ECU,Temple, and bring in Tulsa and Southern Miss and make a new conference and call it the METRO Conference and tell The Big 3 good luck. Then sign with NBC.

(03-04-2013 12:13 AM)whitey Wrote:  We signed up to play in the Big East, there's no more Big East for us. I think that's a breach in the contract, that we no longer have to abide by.

And you are being compensated for your commitment accordingly according to article to the tune of 1 million dollars. You're already getting thrown a bone, I'm not sure why any incoming school thinks they are entitled to anything more than that. Every single incoming school is already increasing their television revenue and exposure by joining this conference, if you want to throw that away be my guest. There are plenty of other god awful schools that would replace you in a second...

(03-04-2013 12:24 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 12:13 AM)whitey Wrote:  We signed up to play in the Big East, there's no more Big East for us. I think that's a breach in the contract, that we no longer have to abide by.

And you are being compensated for your commitment accordingly according to article to the tune of 1 million dollars. You're already getting thrown a bone, I'm not sure why any incoming school thinks they are entitled to anything more than that. Every single incoming school is already increasing their television revenue and exposure by joining this conference, if you want to throw that away be my guest. There are plenty of other god awful schools that would replace you in a second...

Like I said before we have 3 groups now. C7, Big 3 and the Newbies and it's dog eat dog now.

(03-04-2013 12:24 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 12:13 AM)whitey Wrote:  We signed up to play in the Big East, there's no more Big East for us. I think that's a breach in the contract, that we no longer have to abide by.

And you are being compensated for your commitment accordingly according to article to the tune of 1 million dollars. You're already getting thrown a bone, I'm not sure why any incoming school thinks they are entitled to anything more than that. Every single incoming school is already increasing their television revenue and exposure by joining this conference, if you want to throw that away be my guest. There are plenty of other god awful schools that would replace you in a second...

You don't think NBC will not give us the same deal when they need inventory. Be real.

(03-04-2013 12:23 AM)pearland1 Wrote:  UH,Tulane,SMU,UCF,Memphis,ECU,Temple, and bring in Tulsa and Southern Miss and make a new conference and call it the METRO Conference and tell The Big 3 good luck. Then sign with NBC.

sounds like a good plan, maybe we should let our respective presidents and ads know how we feel. upteen million to add uconn cincy and usf, thats laughable.

(03-04-2013 12:24 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 12:13 AM)whitey Wrote:  We signed up to play in the Big East, there's no more Big East for us. I think that's a breach in the contract, that we no longer have to abide by.

And you are being compensated for your commitment accordingly according to article to the tune of 1 million dollars. You're already getting thrown a bone, I'm not sure why any incoming school thinks they are entitled to anything more than that. Every single incoming school is already increasing their television revenue and exposure, if you want to throw that away be my guest. There are plenty of other god awful schools that would replace you in a second...

1 million is a drop in the bucket to each of the incoming programs if they have to establish a brand from scratch to get it. Compensation? That's crazy talk.

(03-04-2013 12:02 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Cincinnati and Connecticut have already given up on the Big East and they do not care about what happens to any other school but themselves. I predict that Cincinnati and Connecticut will maximize their losses giving them a nice cushion period until the ACC is raided. The incoming schools are not entitled to any of the funds and have zero leverage to make any demands. It sucks but it is what it is...

The incoming schools have plenty of leverage if they man up and grow a set. We may or may not need them, but they certainly don't need us if all we can get each of them is a $2 mil/yr contract. Eliminate the instability and they can build an 8-9 school conference making $2 mil/yr.

If prospective member schools are as sure as you are that UC and UConn are ACC bound, then why would any choose us over the 6 incoming schools? If the incoming 6 schools are as sure as you are that UC and UConn are gone, then why wouldn't they make a stand?

It's a dangerous mindset to put all of our eggs in the ACC basket. If that's the case, then we should have done whatever we could to stay with the C7. C7 basketball and a couple of years of Indy football would bring in much more money than this version of the Big East or whatever we end up calling it. Since we're obviously not putting all of our eggs in the ACC basket, we need to treat the incoming members with respect and dignity. That means recognizing that this isn't the conference they signed up for. We will have every means of softening their financial blow and that's simply the right thing to do. The thing to understand is this: we can still make a relative windfall and do the right thing. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

(03-04-2013 12:24 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 12:13 AM)whitey Wrote:  We signed up to play in the Big East, there's no more Big East for us. I think that's a breach in the contract, that we no longer have to abide by.

And you are being compensated for your commitment accordingly according to article to the tune of 1 million dollars. You're already getting thrown a bone, I'm not sure why any incoming school thinks they are entitled to anything more than that. Every single incoming school is already increasing their television revenue and exposure by joining this conference, if you want to throw that away be my guest. There are plenty of other god awful schools that would replace you in a second...

Good. Enjoy playing them.