Why do people keep calling La Laf "Louisiana"? It's not like they are the major scool in the state by a long shot. Most of us think of them as La Laf and the other one La Mon.

(08-01-2013 07:01 PM)westwolf Wrote:  Why do people keep calling La Laf "Louisiana"? It's not like they are the major scool in the state by a long shot. Most of us think of them as La Laf and the other one La Mon.

La Laf and La Mon? WTF?

It's either: ULL and ULM, UL-Lafayette and UL-Monroe, or Louisiana-Lafayette and Louisiana-Monroe.

Now, if ULL wants to brand themselves as Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns then why does it matter? In Lindy's College Football Preview Magazine they're referred to as Louisiana. So it's not like their fans and school are the only ones using it.

(08-01-2013 07:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:01 PM)westwolf Wrote:  Why do people keep calling La Laf "Louisiana"? It's not like they are the major scool in the state by a long shot. Most of us think of them as La Laf and the other one La Mon.

La Laf and La Mon? WTF?

It's either: ULL and ULM, UL-Lafayette and UL-Monroe, or Louisiana-Lafayette and Louisiana-Monroe.

Now, if ULL wants to brand themselves as Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns then why does it matter? In Lindy's College Football Preview Magazine they're referred to as Louisiana. So it's not like their fans and school are the only ones using it.

---Thank you sir---We are the UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA at Lafayette---In Sports we go as Louisiana or UL!!!

(08-01-2013 07:14 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Both the Cajuns and the Red Wolves will soon have great facilities. Both schools can be proud of them.

Yeah getting as annoying as when pennyante programs like Louisville flooded message boards with talk of new facilities and future football relevance.

America where we claim to love underdogs and pull yourself up by the bootstrap stories but in reality piss on people daring to break the caste system.

(08-01-2013 07:01 PM)westwolf Wrote:  Why do people keep calling La Laf "Louisiana"? It's not like they are the major scool in the state by a long shot. Most of us think of them as La Laf and the other one La Mon.

Scool?

(08-01-2013 09:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  America where we claim to love underdogs and pull yourself up by the bootstrap stories but in reality piss on people daring to break the caste system.

This.

(08-01-2013 03:56 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  We are doing exactly what you are saying. Money is starting to poor into athletics. That is how we are doing the $115M athletic Master Plan. The video is only part of Phase I of the Master Plan. Wait until you see Phase II (hasn't been released yet).

Is that entire 115 million under construction? how are they paying for it? Bonds? or do they have 115 million in cash?
Your tickets are still too cheap. Your fans and students need to pay for your program (same with every school). You need a student fee and you have the student population base that a reasonable fee could replace the general fund (taxpayer) supplement.

(08-02-2013 02:01 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 03:56 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  We are doing exactly what you are saying. Money is starting to poor into athletics. That is how we are doing the $115M athletic Master Plan. The video is only part of Phase I of the Master Plan. Wait until you see Phase II (hasn't been released yet).

Is that entire 115 million under construction? how are they paying for it? Bonds? or do they have 115 million in cash?
Your tickets are still too cheap. Your fans and students need to pay for your program (same with every school). You need a student fee and you have the student population base that a reasonable fee could replace the general fund (taxpayer) supplement.

Doubters are welcome.....phase 1a financing is secured....phase 1b, which is renovation and completed expansion of football stadium to 45,000 + up to 50 private suites and club seating and renovation and expansion of the baseball stadium will begin soon afterward....fundraising for 1b is happening now......fans and students will be paying for this....not taxpayers....we would prefer a student fee for the general fund in athletics...up until now the state of LA. did not allow it.....tickets prices have risen over the last 3 years but you can't hit the fans all at once....must be gradual...the entire 115 million dollar project will be completed within 7 years....my prediction based on what I know....football practice facility, initial football expansion to 39,000+, track renovations all within year and a half....phase 1b within 4 years....you brought up legitimate questions and points and I appreciate your interest...

(08-02-2013 02:01 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 03:56 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  We are doing exactly what you are saying. Money is starting to poor into athletics. That is how we are doing the $115M athletic Master Plan. The video is only part of Phase I of the Master Plan. Wait until you see Phase II (hasn't been released yet).

Is that entire 115 million under construction? how are they paying for it? Bonds? or do they have 115 million in cash?
Your tickets are still too cheap. Your fans and students need to pay for your program (same with every school). You need a student fee and you have the student population base that a reasonable fee could replace the general fund (taxpayer) supplement.

One idea that has been floated around, but not sure how much traction it has gained is a hotel and restraunt tax similar to what McNeese has done in Lake Charles. The reason for this option is bacuse some of the projects included in the Master Plan will have local shops and bring an economic boost to the campus area. I am not sure that will ever be presented to a vote but it has been mentioned as a posibility for Phase II and III of the project.

Also from info that I have attained, the 50 proposed suites have already been purchased and the waiting list is growing rapidly. There are a couple of options the Master Plan offers the university and if the demand gets the the appropriate level a matching upper deck on the visitors side will also have suites as well. If that occurs we will seat close to 53k with the South End Zone and the 2 UDs. The 65k number that is being thrown around is bowling both end zones and having and upper deck structure above both as well.

(08-01-2013 09:03 PM)exflash Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:01 PM)westwolf Wrote:  Why do people keep calling La Laf "Louisiana"? It's not like they are the major scool in the state by a long shot. Most of us think of them as La Laf and the other one La Mon.

La Laf and La Mon? WTF?

It's either: ULL and ULM, UL-Lafayette and UL-Monroe, or Louisiana-Lafayette and Louisiana-Monroe.

Now, if ULL wants to brand themselves as Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns then why does it matter? In Lindy's College Football Preview Magazine they're referred to as Louisiana. So it's not like their fans and school are the only ones using it.

---Thank you sir---We are the UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA at Lafayette---In Sports we go as Louisiana or UL!!!

Wrong. The state does not allow you to use UL without the city attached. You are trying to use Louisiana Ragin Cajuns to brand your sports, basically to fool people into thinking you are the University of Louisiana.

(08-02-2013 12:55 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 09:03 PM)exflash Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:01 PM)westwolf Wrote:  Why do people keep calling La Laf "Louisiana"? It's not like they are the major scool in the state by a long shot. Most of us think of them as La Laf and the other one La Mon.

La Laf and La Mon? WTF?

It's either: ULL and ULM, UL-Lafayette and UL-Monroe, or Louisiana-Lafayette and Louisiana-Monroe.

Now, if ULL wants to brand themselves as Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns then why does it matter? In Lindy's College Football Preview Magazine they're referred to as Louisiana. So it's not like their fans and school are the only ones using it.

---Thank you sir---We are the UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA at Lafayette---In Sports we go as Louisiana or UL!!!

Wrong. The state does not allow you to use UL without the city attached. You are trying to use Louisiana Ragin Cajuns to brand your sports, basically to fool people into thinking you are the University of Louisiana.

It's not uncommon at all.

UNC-Chapel Hill calls itself North Carolina for sports, but the official school name is The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. There is no such thing as "The University of North Carolina" in the sense of a single school. The University of North Carolina is the name of a system that all public school in NC are a part of.

Like Chapel Hill, Charlotte has branded itself differently for athletics. The official school name is The University of North Carolina at Charlotte, but for athletics we are simply Charlotte.

Alabama is the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa, yet are branded as Alabama.

I don't know why so many people get upset by ULL calling themselves Louisiana for sports. What they're doing is very common.

(08-02-2013 12:55 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 09:03 PM)exflash Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:01 PM)westwolf Wrote:  Why do people keep calling La Laf "Louisiana"? It's not like they are the major scool in the state by a long shot. Most of us think of them as La Laf and the other one La Mon.

La Laf and La Mon? WTF?

It's either: ULL and ULM, UL-Lafayette and UL-Monroe, or Louisiana-Lafayette and Louisiana-Monroe.

Now, if ULL wants to brand themselves as Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns then why does it matter? In Lindy's College Football Preview Magazine they're referred to as Louisiana. So it's not like their fans and school are the only ones using it.

---Thank you sir---We are the UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA at Lafayette---In Sports we go as Louisiana or UL!!!

Wrong. The state does not allow you to use UL without the city attached. You are trying to use Louisiana Ragin Cajuns to brand your sports, basically to fool people into thinking you are the University of Louisiana.

In Louisiana, everyone outside of Lafayette refers to the school as ULL or Lousiana-Lafayette. Absolutely nobody calls them "Louisiana", which as you correctly note is a rather transparent ploy to have themselves thought of as the flagship university of the state, like "Florida", "Texas", etc.

(08-02-2013 01:08 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 12:55 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 09:03 PM)exflash Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:01 PM)westwolf Wrote:  Why do people keep calling La Laf "Louisiana"? It's not like they are the major scool in the state by a long shot. Most of us think of them as La Laf and the other one La Mon.

La Laf and La Mon? WTF?

It's either: ULL and ULM, UL-Lafayette and UL-Monroe, or Louisiana-Lafayette and Louisiana-Monroe.

Now, if ULL wants to brand themselves as Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns then why does it matter? In Lindy's College Football Preview Magazine they're referred to as Louisiana. So it's not like their fans and school are the only ones using it.

---Thank you sir---We are the UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA at Lafayette---In Sports we go as Louisiana or UL!!!

Wrong. The state does not allow you to use UL without the city attached. You are trying to use Louisiana Ragin Cajuns to brand your sports, basically to fool people into thinking you are the University of Louisiana.

It's not uncommon at all.

UNC-Chapel Hill calls itself North Carolina for sports, but the official school name is The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. There is no such thing as "The University of North Carolina" in the sense of a single school. The University of North Carolina is the name of a system that all public school in NC are a part of.

Like Chapel Hill, Charlotte has branded itself differently for athletics. The official school name is The University of North Carolina at Charlotte, but for athletics we are simply Charlotte.

Alabama is the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa, yet are branded as Alabama.

I don't know why so many people get upset by ULL calling themselves Louisiana for sports. What they're doing is very common.

lots of politics within the system. UNC and Bama are flagships of their respective systems. ULL is not a designated nor recognized flagship. Changing their name to simply Louisiana is a power grab against the other schools in the UL system like LaTech, ULM, UNO, ect.

(08-02-2013 01:35 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 01:08 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 12:55 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 09:03 PM)exflash Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  La Laf and La Mon? WTF?

It's either: ULL and ULM, UL-Lafayette and UL-Monroe, or Louisiana-Lafayette and Louisiana-Monroe.

Now, if ULL wants to brand themselves as Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns then why does it matter? In Lindy's College Football Preview Magazine they're referred to as Louisiana. So it's not like their fans and school are the only ones using it.

---Thank you sir---We are the UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA at Lafayette---In Sports we go as Louisiana or UL!!!

Wrong. The state does not allow you to use UL without the city attached. You are trying to use Louisiana Ragin Cajuns to brand your sports, basically to fool people into thinking you are the University of Louisiana.

It's not uncommon at all.

UNC-Chapel Hill calls itself North Carolina for sports, but the official school name is The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. There is no such thing as "The University of North Carolina" in the sense of a single school. The University of North Carolina is the name of a system that all public school in NC are a part of.

Like Chapel Hill, Charlotte has branded itself differently for athletics. The official school name is The University of North Carolina at Charlotte, but for athletics we are simply Charlotte.

Alabama is the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa, yet are branded as Alabama.

I don't know why so many people get upset by ULL calling themselves Louisiana for sports. What they're doing is very common.

lots of politics within the system. UNC and Bama are flagships of their respective systems. ULL is not a designated nor recognized flagship. Changing their name to simply Louisiana is a power grab against the other schools in the UL system like LaTech, ULM, UNO, ect.

:weeping:Too bad

(08-02-2013 01:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 12:55 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 09:03 PM)exflash Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:01 PM)westwolf Wrote:  Why do people keep calling La Laf "Louisiana"? It's not like they are the major scool in the state by a long shot. Most of us think of them as La Laf and the other one La Mon.

La Laf and La Mon? WTF?

It's either: ULL and ULM, UL-Lafayette and UL-Monroe, or Louisiana-Lafayette and Louisiana-Monroe.

Now, if ULL wants to brand themselves as Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns then why does it matter? In Lindy's College Football Preview Magazine they're referred to as Louisiana. So it's not like their fans and school are the only ones using it.

---Thank you sir---We are the UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA at Lafayette---In Sports we go as Louisiana or UL!!!

Wrong. The state does not allow you to use UL without the city attached. You are trying to use Louisiana Ragin Cajuns to brand your sports, basically to fool people into thinking you are the University of Louisiana.

In Louisiana, everyone outside of Lafayette refers to the school as ULL or Lousiana-Lafayette. Absolutely nobody calls them "Louisiana", which as you correctly note is a rather transparent ploy to have themselves thought of as the flagship university of the state, like "Florida", "Texas", etc.

Virginia Tech is the Virginia Polythenic Institute and State University. From what many of their posters have said, they go by Virginia Tech without "University" because they are branded that way athletically without use of the complete official name.

Similarly, our official name is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Athletically, we are simply LOUISIANA.

Most schools change their name athletically, yet none of you complain about those schools and its not just flagship universities. Charlotte is a good example. Nevada Reno is Nevada. Cal State Fresno is Fresno State. Wiconsin-Milwaukee is Milwaukee. There are many more examples.

For those of you who are sick and tired of seeing this name issue raised time and time again by LA Tech, here is some history. We got the University of Louisiana name (no city tag) in 1984. It was unconstitutionally taken from us by politics. LSUNO changed its name to UNO and LA Polythecnic Institute became Louisiana Tech with the then Board of Supervisors approval. USL was a member of the same Board of Supervisors and changed its name to the University of Louisiana in 1984 with a 17-1 vote in compliance with the existing law. McNeese State was the only vote against us. LA Tech voted for it. After we got the name and had a graduating class with the name, an LSU attorney said that was now illegal and only the legislature could change the name of a university, despite that fact that we followed the same legal protocol as UNO and LA Tech did. This drug through the court system for years until it was decided that the law needed to be changed. After the law was changed, then we had to seek approval again for the name change and could only do so with a city tag. After we decided to go with the University of Louisiana at Lafayette name in 2000, the UL System was created. For all you insecure LA Tech posters who turn every thread into a name issue, chew on this. It's not the LA Tech System. It is the University of Louisiana System. We are the main campus of the system. We are not the flagship and have never claimed to be. The UL System was created because of us. Like other schools, we will always officially be the University of Louisiana at Lafayette and the university does use its official name on all things academic. We are not calling ourselves the University of Louisiana. We are LOUISIANA athletically only. After almost 30 years of this battle, we will not relent in our pursuit to be known as Louisiana. Use of Louisiana without "University of" or without the city tag is legal and Louisiana Ragin Cajuns is now trademarked. So, Tech can keep bringing this up over and over again, but it won't change that fact. So, give it a rest and let people on this board participate in the postings and not have to endure the endless ranting against our use of Louisiana. But, make no mistake, our right to use Louisiana will be defended.

Wrong, again. You are not the main campus of the UL System. You are just one school of many. You have no special status whatsoever. And, please, stop acting so innocent about what you folks are attempting to do. Your claims to be the University of Louisiana (flagship) are all over the internet. And who is insecure? We are happy with who we are, and are not the ones ashamed of our identity, pretending to be something we are not. However, we are the ones, among others, who will challenge your intentional impersonation whenever discovered. So, if you want to not be exposed, stop doing it.

(08-02-2013 04:20 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  Wrong, again. You are not the main campus of the UL System. You are just one school of many. You have no special status whatsoever. And, please, stop acting so innocent about what you folks are attempting to do. Your claims to be the University of Louisiana (flagship) are all over the internet. And who is insecure? We are happy with who we are, and are not the ones ashamed of our identity, pretending to be something we are not. However, we are the ones, among others, who will challenge your intentional impersonation whenever discovered. So, if you want to not be exposed, stop doing it.

What HoustonCajun said is 100% factual. Going by just "Louisiana" is completely legal and we can do that if we please. You can continue to be bitter, but I don't know why... because as you said La Tech has much to be proud of... I have no knock on La Tech. I don't understand why everyone gets so butt hurt thinking we are "trying to claim the flagship status" That is complete and UTTER BS!!! Everyone here knows that there is no uprooting LSU. They should not feel threatened.

(08-02-2013 04:20 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  Wrong, again. You are not the main campus of the UL System. You are just one school of many. You have no special status whatsoever. And, please, stop acting so innocent about what you folks are attempting to do. Your claims to be the University of Louisiana (flagship) are all over the internet. And who is insecure? We are happy with who we are, and are not the ones ashamed of our identity, pretending to be something we are not. However, we are the ones, among others, who will challenge your intentional impersonation whenever discovered. So, if you want to not be exposed, stop doing it.

The Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns....Trademarked Jack so stick it....

(08-02-2013 03:06 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 01:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 12:55 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 09:03 PM)exflash Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  La Laf and La Mon? WTF?

It's either: ULL and ULM, UL-Lafayette and UL-Monroe, or Louisiana-Lafayette and Louisiana-Monroe.

Now, if ULL wants to brand themselves as Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns then why does it matter? In Lindy's College Football Preview Magazine they're referred to as Louisiana. So it's not like their fans and school are the only ones using it.

---Thank you sir---We are the UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA at Lafayette---In Sports we go as Louisiana or UL!!!

Wrong. The state does not allow you to use UL without the city attached. You are trying to use Louisiana Ragin Cajuns to brand your sports, basically to fool people into thinking you are the University of Louisiana.

In Louisiana, everyone outside of Lafayette refers to the school as ULL or Lousiana-Lafayette. Absolutely nobody calls them "Louisiana", which as you correctly note is a rather transparent ploy to have themselves thought of as the flagship university of the state, like "Florida", "Texas", etc.

Virginia Tech is the Virginia Polythenic Institute and State University. From what many of their posters have said, they go by Virginia Tech without "University" because they are branded that way athletically without use of the complete official name.

Similarly, our official name is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Athletically, we are simply LOUISIANA.

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For those of you who are sick and tired of seeing this name issue raised time and time again by LA Tech, here is some history. We got the University of Louisiana name (no city tag) in 1984. It was unconstitutionally taken from us by politics.

There is no "similarity" between Virginia Tech and Louisiana-Lafayette, because the name"Virginia Tech" does not attempt to usurp flagship status, whereas "Louisiana" most certainly does. And that's why NO other schools in Virginia object to VPI going by "Virginia Tech", whereas ALL other Louisiana schools scoff at the notion that ULL is "Louisiana".

Cajun fans only look ridiculous when you engage in this kind of newspeak to hide what is blitheringly obvious: You changed your name to "Louisiana" to create the FALSE impression that you are the flagship university of the state, in the same way that "Texas", "Florida", and "Georgia" are. It was your lame attempt to artificially raise yourself above ULM, UNO, and LA-Tech, and to challenge LSU as the dominant state school. You fool nobody by denying this.

As for what you call "unconstitutional", that obviously is bogus language too, since whatever happened to deny you the name "Louisiana" was upheld by the courts.

Put it this way: Tulane, Louisiana-Monroe, and LSU fans agree on just about nothing. But one thing they agree on is that you guys are "Louisiana-Lafayette".

(08-02-2013 05:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 03:06 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 01:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 12:55 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 09:03 PM)exflash Wrote:  ---Thank you sir---We are the UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA at Lafayette---In Sports we go as Louisiana or UL!!!

Wrong. The state does not allow you to use UL without the city attached. You are trying to use Louisiana Ragin Cajuns to brand your sports, basically to fool people into thinking you are the University of Louisiana.

In Louisiana, everyone outside of Lafayette refers to the school as ULL or Lousiana-Lafayette. Absolutely nobody calls them "Louisiana", which as you correctly note is a rather transparent ploy to have themselves thought of as the flagship university of the state, like "Florida", "Texas", etc.

Virginia Tech is the Virginia Polythenic Institute and State University. From what many of their posters have said, they go by Virginia Tech without "University" because they are branded that way athletically without use of the complete official name.

Similarly, our official name is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Athletically, we are simply LOUISIANA.

......


For those of you who are sick and tired of seeing this name issue raised time and time again by LA Tech, here is some history. We got the University of Louisiana name (no city tag) in 1984. It was unconstitutionally taken from us by politics.

There is no "similarity" between Virginia Tech and Louisiana-Lafayette, because the name"Virginia Tech" does not attempt to usurp flagship status, whereas "Louisiana" most certainly does. And that's why NO other schools in Virginia object to VPI going by "Virginia Tech", whereas ALL other Louisiana schools scoff at the notion that ULL is "Louisiana".

Cajun fans only look ridiculous when you engage in this kind of newspeak to hide what is blitheringly obvious: You changed your name to "Louisiana" to create the FALSE impression that you are the flagship university of the state, in the same way that "Texas", "Florida", and "Georgia" are. It was your lame attempt to artificially raise yourself above ULM, UNO, and LA-Tech, and to challenge LSU as the dominant state school. You fool nobody by denying this.

As for what you call "unconstitutional", that obviously is bogus language too, since whatever happened to deny you the name "Louisiana" was upheld by the courts.

Put it this way: Tulane, Louisiana-Monroe, and LSU fans agree on just about nothing. But one thing they agree on is that you guys are "Louisiana-Lafayette".

Unconstitutional because qe got it the exact same way LA Poly got theirs. Well, you are just going to have to live with it. How many times do I have to say this...Louisiana Ragin Cajuns is trademarked. It is legal. Assume it implies whatever you want, but it is our brand now. Go to our athletic website and you will see the Louisiana reference and use. Continuing to fight this on this board and every other board where Louisiana is used makes you look petty and spiteful. BTW, our opening game is against Arkansas. Guess what they call us? LOUISIANA.

Sorry to everyone who has to read all of this. It is a recurring theme with an insecure LA Tech. It's time to end this because Tech will Beat this horse to death and their is no need to put everyone under this recurring torture.