(12-30-2013 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Why don't we all just go by the by-laws we all agreed to when we joined?

We are and we will eat the loss. My point going forward the team that outplays every other g5 team shouldn't take a loss in a major bowl. That makes zero sense. The big 10 makes sure their teams don't lose $$$ in BCS bowls. Next year we need to kiss @ss for any team that makes a major bowl and not stick them with a bill while the AAC team that wins 1 game grabs $1 million.

(12-30-2013 05:14 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Why don't we all just go by the by-laws we all agreed to when we joined?

We are and we will eat the loss. My point going forward the team that outplays every other g5 team shouldn't take a loss in a major bowl. That makes zero sense. The big 10 makes sure their teams don't lose $$$ in BCS bowls.

It's impossible to do literally what you ask without creating a huge moral hazard problem, as the BCS team would in effect have an unlimited travel budget. They could spend $10 million sending every student and their girlfriend to the game and give them each a $1,000 steak and strip joint voucher knowing that whatever losses are incurred will be paid for by their conference brethren.

But, even if we limit the concept of "losses" to unsold tickets, making the schools responsible for costs like travel, the only thing that can be done is what IS being done: Bowl money is divided up among the conference teams and each team gets a travel allowance. Now sure, that allowance can be adjusted somewhat to account for greater distances and the like (e.g., USF gets less if it plays in the across-the-bay Beefy Bowl, UConn gets more if it plays in the Fiesta Bowl), but all of this has to be funded out of bowl payouts, and with the very small amount that the AAC gets from its bowl ties, there can only be a certain amount of wiggle-room there.

The B1G can afford to be more generous because it makes GOBS more money from bowls than does the AAC, so it can afford to cover some losses if a school doesn't sell its ticket allotment, but even it can't give its schools carte-blanche guarantees against losses from other expenses. The AAC simply lacks the bowl revenue to do the same.

(12-30-2013 03:50 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:49 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:38 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:34 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:00 PM)UCFKnight10 Wrote:  Can we just delete this? Bianchi is a joke.

Why? Honestly, if this thread is pulled then every other thread should be as well.

UCF's president thinks the AAC is being unfair to UCF. Hitt answered the question and Bianchi piled on as he usually does and took unnecessary shots at member institutions. Why do you think this should not be discussed?

Even if you take away the Bianchi troll attempt....what Hitt is suggesting deserves discussion. IMO, it's a bad idea as a balanced conference revenue sharing approach is the only model that has been shown historically to work.

Oh you mean like when the usf mod sent a ticket attendance thread to the smack board simply because info isn't available on all league teams? Lol this thread was started as smack and you know what you were doing.

Smack? Posting any comments to an article that paints UCF in a bad light is now considered smack? Gotcha...only UCF happy koolaid talk from now on...

The mods need to chill out or every post is going to wind up on this board...smh

Again since you can't read. Posting the article isn't smack telling us bianchi is a mouth piece for ucf is smack.

A very nuanced reply that tries to disguise the point that UCF is once again crying about ......something. Bianchi was a mouse piece for UCF during realignment and continues to be a UCF surrogate. You guys have no problem embracing the clown when he bashes USF yet now you don't like the guy b/c his column puts UCF in a bad light.

Hypocritical much?

Btw, it goes beyond what bianchi wrote, your own president was actually complaining about how unfair the AAC was being to UCF. All Bianchi did was "translate" what Hitt meant...

(12-30-2013 03:50 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:49 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:38 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:34 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 03:00 PM)UCFKnight10 Wrote:  Can we just delete this? Bianchi is a joke.

Why? Honestly, if this thread is pulled then every other thread should be as well.

UCF's president thinks the AAC is being unfair to UCF. Hitt answered the question and Bianchi piled on as he usually does and took unnecessary shots at member institutions. Why do you think this should not be discussed?

Even if you take away the Bianchi troll attempt....what Hitt is suggesting deserves discussion. IMO, it's a bad idea as a balanced conference revenue sharing approach is the only model that has been shown historically to work.

Oh you mean like when the usf mod sent a ticket attendance thread to the smack board simply because info isn't available on all league teams? Lol this thread was started as smack and you know what you were doing.

Smack? Posting any comments to an article that paints UCF in a bad light is now considered smack? Gotcha...only UCF happy koolaid talk from now on...

The mods need to chill out or every post is going to wind up on this board...smh

Again since you can't read. Posting the article isn't smack telling us bianchi is a mouth piece for ucf is smack.

Btw, if this is smack then why did UCF fans get a free pass for calling Pat Forde a UL shill? Where was the UCF mod in moving that thread? I've never seen a more uptight, panties in a wad moderator....

Link: http://csnbbs.com/thread-669402.html

Cut out the posturing. Read the bowl split written contract between the AAC and its members. Follow it or. You will be sued by the league. Contracts are written to be honored.

(12-30-2013 01:56 PM)Bambu Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 01:54 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 01:50 PM)Bambu Wrote:  Keep the cash.

And we'll keep our hoops credits.

Deal?

17mil vs your hoops credits? Deal. What does a sweet 16 run garner? Elite 8? Round of 32?

Quite a bit when you dance every year.

Got us out of CUSA for free.

Since coach flashcard has been on the job, I believe he has all of one(1) tourney win. Give us our tourney and BCS credits and we'll dance off into the sunset happy as clams. Not to mention LOADED.

(12-30-2013 01:22 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  UCF surrogate, Mike Bianchi writes this morning:


"It's not crippling and we can handle it," UCF President John Hitt says. "We just don't feel like we should have to. … You shouldn't place such a burden on the team that earns the money."

Translation: UCF won the league championship and is responsible for $17 million the Fiesta Bowl is paying the American Athletic Conference. Why should the American's bowl-less bottom-feeders like USF, Temple and Memphis make money on the league's bowl distribution pool while UCF loses a couple of million?


Link: I'm sure you guys can find it on your own b/c I'm not giving this guy any more traffic.

The LA Ragin' Cajuns know the situation but from another view--we put 40K of the 55K butts in the stands for the NO Bowl and we only make about a million and have to share it with other schools!!!

(12-30-2013 02:13 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  Eh I am really curious. I looked it up, each credit is worth approx $220k. So it would take 79.5 wins to equal the bcs payout of 17.5m. That is a ton of wins needed, so yes I'd gladly make the deal of Memphis can keep their credits while ucf keeps the bcs bowl money. That's 13 straight championships worth of bball wins.

x6 years. So, in essence, each "credit" is worth $1.32M.

$17M/$1.32M = 12.87 wins.

You can earn up to 5 in a season (anyone who makes the final four gets equal "credits").

Here is something more to think about... when the Big East split last season there were $110M in NCAA credits to be paid to the conference. So to think that there isn't significant money to be had in NCAA credits is completely false.

I can pretty much promise you that the conference will profit from more money in NCAA credits over the next decade than it will from bowl games. No more guaranteed BCS payout pretty much guarantees that.