The other thing, depending on what the salary is, NCSU may match that offer to try and keep Lutz. Depends on how much Lutz wants to be a HC again.

Any clue what Lutz currently makes? Layer made $320 last year. I would think for the right guy we would increase the salary. It's been reported that Meyer was making $180,000, so the salary for him is no issue.

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(03-24-2015 01:06 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  The other thing, depending on what the salary is, NCSU may match that offer to try and keep Lutz. Depends on how much Lutz wants to be a HC again.

Michigan may try to match Meyer's salary as well. I would much rather have Lutz though. Whoever gets the job has his work cut out for him. Good thing we believe in miracles!

Very true. Though a sharp turn around can be done in a couple years, a winning program is a process. I hope the fan base understands it may take longer to right the ship.

I would think the new coach would look to juco's for immediate help. I'm sure both Meyer and Lutz are in with kids that may be plan b type kids for NC State or Michigan, but may be convinced to come to Liberty.

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I really hope we have a non mentioned to date assistant or HC who comes into the discussion. With Meyer being 60+, that has got to be a factor against a program that needs a reboot. McKay stiffed us once. Lutz comes with strong credentials and is not a former LU coach. Let's hope we get more high profile candidates who express interest and that the LU checkbook opens wide to entice the right person.

I am guessing LU is going to be paying the new coach more than what Layer made at his departure.

Ask and you shall receive. http://www.newsobserver.com/news/databas...Position=3

He was in the running for the App State. He did not get the job but he makes about 25K more than the App HC. I could easily see NCSU taking him to 250K which is 70 more than you paid the last coach. I don't know what you all are willing to go, but I could see NCSU offering him up to 275K to stay.

Thanks for the info. We would have no issue with salary then with Lutz. There was a report out earlier that today that Liberty offered Murray St coach nearly a million a year and he declined. Not sure I believe that. I'm sure we would go $400,000 or so.

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I did not think money would be an issue for you all. If you get Coach Lutz, you will get a good man. As I stated earlier,

Liberty should really look at Herb Sendek as well. I think he would be perfect at Liberty. Please don't take this the wrong way, but he is a coach that needs to be in a typically one-bid conference. He would dominate in such a situation. I think he would turn Liberty into a consistent Regular season champ assuring NIT or NCAA most seasons. It will not be exciting basketball, but it will be winning basketball. Sendek is just not suited to coach in a power conference.

Wishing you the best in your searching efforts.

(03-25-2015 12:57 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Ask and you shall receive. http://www.newsobserver.com/news/databas...Position=3

He was in the running for the App State. He did not get the job but he makes about 25K more than the App HC. I could easily see NCSU taking him to 250K which is 70 more than you paid the last coach. I don't know what you all are willing to go, but I could see NCSU offering him up to 275K to stay.

Our local beat writer Chris Lang, of the News & Advance writer, quoted recent tax filings stating that former coach Dale Layer received $320k per year. A significant amount higher than his assistant salary at NCSU. One could expect LU to pay that and more with the new hire.

It has been quite awhile since we have paid a mens head coach less than $250k/year. Money is not going ot be an issue if he is who we want.

I'd think we could get a decent coach for a million a year.

And, if we truly went after Prohm and Grant, and they both declined, we have been rejected twice and are moving farther down our list of candidates.

Maybe the job isn't as desirable as we thought. I still have great faith that we will make a very good hire.

(03-25-2015 04:41 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I'd think we could get a decent coach for a million a year.

And, if we truly went after Prohm and Grant, and they both declined, we have been rejected twice and are moving farther down our list of candidates.

Maybe the job isn't as desirable as we thought. I still have great faith that we will make a very good hire.

It seems the amount we had paid a HC in the past, and the anticipated amount we may pay in the future would be strong enough, and financially sound enough to attract the coach we are seeking. I am yet to hear or read where LU would not be an attractive spot for an upcoming coach. It should only be an issue if the AD leans into one's private life to where that individual feel uncomfortable. As we had said before, are we seeking the best qualified candidate who is comfortable with LU and is a good fit? Anything beyond that would be limiting.

(03-25-2015 05:59 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 04:41 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I'd think we could get a decent coach for a million a year.

And, if we truly went after Prohm and Grant, and they both declined, we have been rejected twice and are moving farther down our list of candidates.

Maybe the job isn't as desirable as we thought. I still have great faith that we will make a very good hire.

It seems the amount we had paid a HC in the past, and the anticipated amount we may pay in the future would be strong enough, and financially sound enough to attract the coach we are seeking. I am yet to hear or read where LU would not be an attractive spot for an upcoming coach. It should only be an issue if the AD leans into one's private life to where that individual feel uncomfortable. As we had said before, are we seeking the best qualified candidate who is comfortable with LU and is a good fit? Anything beyond that would be limiting.

How exactly is Barber going to lean into someone's private life?

(03-25-2015 07:07 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 05:59 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 04:41 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I'd think we could get a decent coach for a million a year.

And, if we truly went after Prohm and Grant, and they both declined, we have been rejected twice and are moving farther down our list of candidates.

Maybe the job isn't as desirable as we thought. I still have great faith that we will make a very good hire.

It seems the amount we had paid a HC in the past, and the anticipated amount we may pay in the future would be strong enough, and financially sound enough to attract the coach we are seeking. I am yet to hear or read where LU would not be an attractive spot for an upcoming coach. It should only be an issue if the AD leans into one's private life to where that individual feel uncomfortable. As we had said before, are we seeking the best qualified candidate who is comfortable with LU and is a good fit? Anything beyond that would be limiting.

How exactly is Barber going to lean into someone's private life?

An example could be asking questions about his personal spiritual and religious beliefs. That seems to me to be a sticky wicket at LU. LU needs to have folks at HC and on staff who are good people, with a high moral fiber. How far does it go beyond that in an interview? Are questions asked that it is stated or inferred they should or must join TRBC? Is tithing a requirement or highly recommended? If a HC chooses not to participate at TRBC or at LU in their religious practices, is that accepted or frowned upon. An unknowing coach interested in the program likely would want to know these answers. I don't.

(03-25-2015 07:19 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  An example could be asking questions about his personal spiritual and religious beliefs. That seems to me to be a sticky wicket at LU.

Um... "Training Champions for Christ."

They didn't arrive at that statement by accident. So yes, questions about personal spiritual beliefs and religious views are appropriate and highly encouraged, in my opinion.

(03-25-2015 07:19 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 07:07 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 05:59 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 04:41 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I'd think we could get a decent coach for a million a year.

And, if we truly went after Prohm and Grant, and they both declined, we have been rejected twice and are moving farther down our list of candidates.

Maybe the job isn't as desirable as we thought. I still have great faith that we will make a very good hire.

It seems the amount we had paid a HC in the past, and the anticipated amount we may pay in the future would be strong enough, and financially sound enough to attract the coach we are seeking. I am yet to hear or read where LU would not be an attractive spot for an upcoming coach. It should only be an issue if the AD leans into one's private life to where that individual feel uncomfortable. As we had said before, are we seeking the best qualified candidate who is comfortable with LU and is a good fit? Anything beyond that would be limiting.

How exactly is Barber going to lean into someone's private life?

An example could be asking questions about his personal spiritual and religious beliefs. That seems to me to be a sticky wicket at LU. LU needs to have folks at HC and on staff who are good people, with a high moral fiber. How far does it go beyond that in an interview? Are questions asked that it is stated or inferred they should or must join TRBC? Is tithing a requirement or highly recommended? If a HC chooses not to participate at TRBC or at LU in their religious practices, is that accepted or frowned upon. An unknowing coach interested in the program likely would want to know these answers. I don't.

I don't think Liberty would hire someone because they were a Christian, or not hire someone if they weren't. I'm sure Liberty has had non-Christians as coaches and other positions. I have never heard it mandatory that a coach go to TRBC, students are not required to go there or any other church on Sunday, and I have even more doubts as to Liberty making a coach donate money to the church.

We're not hiring a Mens Basketball Coach who is not open about being a believer. Not at Liberty. And why would anyone who isn't a believer going to be interested in a job where it plays such a huge role in everything the school does? Mike nailed it with the "Training Champions for Christ" slogan. That is not just idle chatter at LU.

(03-25-2015 08:34 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 07:19 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 07:07 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 05:59 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 04:41 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I'd think we could get a decent coach for a million a year.

And, if we truly went after Prohm and Grant, and they both declined, we have been rejected twice and are moving farther down our list of candidates.

Maybe the job isn't as desirable as we thought. I still have great faith that we will make a very good hire.

It seems the amount we had paid a HC in the past, and the anticipated amount we may pay in the future would be strong enough, and financially sound enough to attract the coach we are seeking. I am yet to hear or read where LU would not be an attractive spot for an upcoming coach. It should only be an issue if the AD leans into one's private life to where that individual feel uncomfortable. As we had said before, are we seeking the best qualified candidate who is comfortable with LU and is a good fit? Anything beyond that would be limiting.

How exactly is Barber going to lean into someone's private life?

An example could be asking questions about his personal spiritual and religious beliefs. That seems to me to be a sticky wicket at LU. LU needs to have folks at HC and on staff who are good people, with a high moral fiber. How far does it go beyond that in an interview? Are questions asked that it is stated or inferred they should or must join TRBC? Is tithing a requirement or highly recommended? If a HC chooses not to participate at TRBC or at LU in their religious practices, is that accepted or frowned upon. An unknowing coach interested in the program likely would want to know these answers. I don't.

I don't think Liberty would hire someone because they were a Christian, or not hire someone if they weren't. I'm sure Liberty has had non-Christians as coaches and other positions. I have never heard it mandatory that a coach go to TRBC, students are not required to go there or any other church on Sunday, and I have even more doubts as to Liberty making a coach donate money to the church.

I hope that is so as that would be a wise position to have. I have never heard it mentioned. Thanks for the mention.