(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:00 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The sec would be foolish to think a big 10 couldn't be a huge threat to them with texas in the fold. IF the big 10 grabs KU and OU, the big 12 is dead and texas will need to find a new home. Depending on what they do will have huge ripple effects. Let's say they go to the big 10 as team 17, my guess would be missouri would be team 18. Maybe they are content at 18 but i could see the big 10 keep growing and adjust their structure to the new members with new rules like divisions can have hoop tournaments.

What i would do right off the bat is invite 10 pac 12 school's, everybody but wash state and oreg state to get to 28 members, 4 pods of 7. Than you turn your focus to the ACC to rip apart. Not hard to see UVa and UNC want to become part of the a big 10 eastern lineup. I'm sure they sec could live well with the leftovers. Or the big 10 could just try to bring everybody in the fold, which wouldn't be bad for the school's invited to the party. If the end is a 60 team big 10 with 6 divisions of 10, does it really matter for the school's included? I mean under that concept alabama, UGA, etc would be in the big 10, basically the sec division of the big 10.

Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

The folks in the big SEC offices informed our president we don't cheat well enough to be invited.

(07-15-2015 10:35 AM)Okielite Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:22 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  

(07-14-2015 09:07 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  The SEC already gets credit for KC and TX media markets. Whether it's the leverage of one school or the SEC and ESPN leveraging dominance in other markets as part of a package deal for all the footprint is irrelevant to that end result.

KU, KSU, Tech, BU, TCU, UH, Miami, Clemson, GT, UL, Memphis, Tulane, UCF, USF, SMU, and anyone else in these footprints would result in a duplication of markets they get credit for. Any expansion with these teams would have to provide value elsewhere in the footprint. Only national brands realistically have the cachet to push through for sure so unless it's Texas or FSU it's unlikely to overlap the existing footprint.

Hey look. Someone gets it.

Actually it's yet another opinion. Just like yours and mine. None are based of any actual evidence other than extremely vague statements about the "SEC footprint" that do not address any specifics to the state of Texas.

There is no proof either way. Nobody really knows if people in ElPaso or Amarillo are paying full price for SECN. I'm not saying it's impossible. I just find it hard to believe that any 1 school can bring the entire state of Texas.

Until we get some specific information that addresses this I don't think anybody can claim to be right on this one. But don't let that stop you from being the Bucaineer of the SEC. Keep up the fine work. In the meantime you might want to study up on the difference between an opinion and a fact. You seem to struggle with that one for some reason.

You seem to care a lot about West Texas and who is or is not "delivering" it (like anyone cares about having the Mule Show-Plainview "market")

Why is that?

(07-15-2015 11:27 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:00 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The sec would be foolish to think a big 10 couldn't be a huge threat to them with texas in the fold. IF the big 10 grabs KU and OU, the big 12 is dead and texas will need to find a new home. Depending on what they do will have huge ripple effects. Let's say they go to the big 10 as team 17, my guess would be missouri would be team 18. Maybe they are content at 18 but i could see the big 10 keep growing and adjust their structure to the new members with new rules like divisions can have hoop tournaments.

What i would do right off the bat is invite 10 pac 12 school's, everybody but wash state and oreg state to get to 28 members, 4 pods of 7. Than you turn your focus to the ACC to rip apart. Not hard to see UVa and UNC want to become part of the a big 10 eastern lineup. I'm sure they sec could live well with the leftovers. Or the big 10 could just try to bring everybody in the fold, which wouldn't be bad for the school's invited to the party. If the end is a 60 team big 10 with 6 divisions of 10, does it really matter for the school's included? I mean under that concept alabama, UGA, etc would be in the big 10, basically the sec division of the big 10.

Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

The folks in the big SEC offices informed our president we don't cheat well enough to be invited.

No, what they said is that paying players is one thing, but academic fraud through bogus classes with bogus grades, and bogus transcripts all signed off on by a fraudulent administration from the A.D. through the Bursar all the way to the President's office is one level of dishonesty that not even the football first schools of the SEC are willing to be a part of. There's nothing harder to take than absolute frauds casting aspersions upon others, but that goes with the arrogance that is inherent with your level of white collar crime, and it is arrogant and it is a crime.

(07-15-2015 11:27 AM)esayem Wrote:  The folks in the big SEC offices informed our president we don't cheat well enough to be invited.

True. SEC teams don't get caught.

(07-15-2015 04:20 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 11:27 AM)esayem Wrote:  The folks in the big SEC offices informed our president we don't cheat well enough to be invited.

True. SEC teams don't get caught.

SEC had a run of 20 plus years where at least 1 program was on ncaa sanctions for something. But yeah they are more sophisticated now.

That streak is hilarious if true

(07-15-2015 01:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 11:27 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:00 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The sec would be foolish to think a big 10 couldn't be a huge threat to them with texas in the fold. IF the big 10 grabs KU and OU, the big 12 is dead and texas will need to find a new home. Depending on what they do will have huge ripple effects. Let's say they go to the big 10 as team 17, my guess would be missouri would be team 18. Maybe they are content at 18 but i could see the big 10 keep growing and adjust their structure to the new members with new rules like divisions can have hoop tournaments.

What i would do right off the bat is invite 10 pac 12 school's, everybody but wash state and oreg state to get to 28 members, 4 pods of 7. Than you turn your focus to the ACC to rip apart. Not hard to see UVa and UNC want to become part of the a big 10 eastern lineup. I'm sure they sec could live well with the leftovers. Or the big 10 could just try to bring everybody in the fold, which wouldn't be bad for the school's invited to the party. If the end is a 60 team big 10 with 6 divisions of 10, does it really matter for the school's included? I mean under that concept alabama, UGA, etc would be in the big 10, basically the sec division of the big 10.

Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

The folks in the big SEC offices informed our president we don't cheat well enough to be invited.

No, what they said is that paying players is one thing, but academic fraud through bogus classes with bogus grades, and bogus transcripts all signed off on by a fraudulent administration from the A.D. through the Bursar all the way to the President's office is one level of dishonesty that not even the football first schools of the SEC are willing to be a part of. There's nothing harder to take than absolute frauds casting aspersions upon others, but that goes with the arrogance that is inherent with your level of white collar crime, and it is arrogant and it is a crime.

What I can't understand is, why did UNC felt the need to provide their students a tutor for classes that never existed? They must have the the AXE and SIT examine to enter UNC.

Uh I don't want to spoil the ending here, but given where this is headed, if you aren't a fan of the Rice Owls then the whole game of "trying to claim the moral high ground in college athletics" doesn't end well.

(07-15-2015 05:40 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Uh I don't want to spoil the ending here, but given where this is headed, if you aren't a fan of the Rice Owls then the whole game of "trying to claim the moral high ground in college athletics" doesn't end well.

Um...........yeah..............you do realize there is a difference between 1st degree premeditated homocide and petit theft right?

(07-15-2015 06:51 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 05:40 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Uh I don't want to spoil the ending here, but given where this is headed, if you aren't a fan of the Rice Owls then the whole game of "trying to claim the moral high ground in college athletics" doesn't end well.

Um...........yeah..............you do realize there is a difference between 1st degree premeditated homocide and petit theft right?

I thought that was Baylor basketball.

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:00 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The sec would be foolish to think a big 10 couldn't be a huge threat to them with texas in the fold. IF the big 10 grabs KU and OU, the big 12 is dead and texas will need to find a new home. Depending on what they do will have huge ripple effects. Let's say they go to the big 10 as team 17, my guess would be missouri would be team 18. Maybe they are content at 18 but i could see the big 10 keep growing and adjust their structure to the new members with new rules like divisions can have hoop tournaments.

What i would do right off the bat is invite 10 pac 12 school's, everybody but wash state and oreg state to get to 28 members, 4 pods of 7. Than you turn your focus to the ACC to rip apart. Not hard to see UVa and UNC want to become part of the a big 10 eastern lineup. I'm sure they sec could live well with the leftovers. Or the big 10 could just try to bring everybody in the fold, which wouldn't be bad for the school's invited to the party. If the end is a 60 team big 10 with 6 divisions of 10, does it really matter for the school's included? I mean under that concept alabama, UGA, etc would be in the big 10, basically the sec division of the big 10.

Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

What we saw from the released emails by UNC was that they faced considerable pressure to Not join The Big Ten but almost next to no pressure at all, internally, to not join the SEC. Instead of joining the SEC though, they simply circled the wagons and went all in with The ACC.

That much is abundantly clear. Saying that no one within UNC wanted to join The Big Ten at all? Well, there would be no reason for pressure to be put on UNC to not join The Big Ten if no one was thinking about doing just that.

(07-15-2015 07:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:00 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The sec would be foolish to think a big 10 couldn't be a huge threat to them with texas in the fold. IF the big 10 grabs KU and OU, the big 12 is dead and texas will need to find a new home. Depending on what they do will have huge ripple effects. Let's say they go to the big 10 as team 17, my guess would be missouri would be team 18. Maybe they are content at 18 but i could see the big 10 keep growing and adjust their structure to the new members with new rules like divisions can have hoop tournaments.

What i would do right off the bat is invite 10 pac 12 school's, everybody but wash state and oreg state to get to 28 members, 4 pods of 7. Than you turn your focus to the ACC to rip apart. Not hard to see UVa and UNC want to become part of the a big 10 eastern lineup. I'm sure they sec could live well with the leftovers. Or the big 10 could just try to bring everybody in the fold, which wouldn't be bad for the school's invited to the party. If the end is a 60 team big 10 with 6 divisions of 10, does it really matter for the school's included? I mean under that concept alabama, UGA, etc would be in the big 10, basically the sec division of the big 10.

Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

What we saw from the released emails by UNC was that they faced considerable pressure to Not join The Big Ten but almost next to no pressure at all, internally, to not join the SEC. Instead of joining the SEC though, they simply circled the wagons and went all in with The ACC.

That much is abundantly clear. Saying that no one within UNC wanted to join The Big Ten at all? Well, there would be no reason for pressure to be put on UNC to not join The Big Ten if no one was thinking about doing just that.

Hey maybe the Big 10 and SEC should fight it out for N.C. State. At some point a brand is no longer worth taking when they are both difficult and toxic. Even Texas isn't as toxic as North Carolina.

(07-15-2015 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:00 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The sec would be foolish to think a big 10 couldn't be a huge threat to them with texas in the fold. IF the big 10 grabs KU and OU, the big 12 is dead and texas will need to find a new home. Depending on what they do will have huge ripple effects. Let's say they go to the big 10 as team 17, my guess would be missouri would be team 18. Maybe they are content at 18 but i could see the big 10 keep growing and adjust their structure to the new members with new rules like divisions can have hoop tournaments.

What i would do right off the bat is invite 10 pac 12 school's, everybody but wash state and oreg state to get to 28 members, 4 pods of 7. Than you turn your focus to the ACC to rip apart. Not hard to see UVa and UNC want to become part of the a big 10 eastern lineup. I'm sure they sec could live well with the leftovers. Or the big 10 could just try to bring everybody in the fold, which wouldn't be bad for the school's invited to the party. If the end is a 60 team big 10 with 6 divisions of 10, does it really matter for the school's included? I mean under that concept alabama, UGA, etc would be in the big 10, basically the sec division of the big 10.

Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

What we saw from the released emails by UNC was that they faced considerable pressure to Not join The Big Ten but almost next to no pressure at all, internally, to not join the SEC. Instead of joining the SEC though, they simply circled the wagons and went all in with The ACC.

That much is abundantly clear. Saying that no one within UNC wanted to join The Big Ten at all? Well, there would be no reason for pressure to be put on UNC to not join The Big Ten if no one was thinking about doing just that.

Hey maybe the Big 10 and SEC should fight it out for N.C. State. At some point a brand is no longer worth taking when they are both difficult and toxic. Even Texas isn't as toxic as North Carolina.

Toxic is a great way to put it.

(07-15-2015 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:00 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The sec would be foolish to think a big 10 couldn't be a huge threat to them with texas in the fold. IF the big 10 grabs KU and OU, the big 12 is dead and texas will need to find a new home. Depending on what they do will have huge ripple effects. Let's say they go to the big 10 as team 17, my guess would be missouri would be team 18. Maybe they are content at 18 but i could see the big 10 keep growing and adjust their structure to the new members with new rules like divisions can have hoop tournaments.

What i would do right off the bat is invite 10 pac 12 school's, everybody but wash state and oreg state to get to 28 members, 4 pods of 7. Than you turn your focus to the ACC to rip apart. Not hard to see UVa and UNC want to become part of the a big 10 eastern lineup. I'm sure they sec could live well with the leftovers. Or the big 10 could just try to bring everybody in the fold, which wouldn't be bad for the school's invited to the party. If the end is a 60 team big 10 with 6 divisions of 10, does it really matter for the school's included? I mean under that concept alabama, UGA, etc would be in the big 10, basically the sec division of the big 10.

Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

What we saw from the released emails by UNC was that they faced considerable pressure to Not join The Big Ten but almost next to no pressure at all, internally, to not join the SEC. Instead of joining the SEC though, they simply circled the wagons and went all in with The ACC.

That much is abundantly clear. Saying that no one within UNC wanted to join The Big Ten at all? Well, there would be no reason for pressure to be put on UNC to not join The Big Ten if no one was thinking about doing just that.

Hey maybe the Big 10 and SEC should fight it out for N.C. State. At some point a brand is no longer worth taking when they are both difficult and toxic. Even Texas isn't as toxic as North Carolina.

JR, JR, JR sometimes you are just too much!

(07-15-2015 07:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:00 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The sec would be foolish to think a big 10 couldn't be a huge threat to them with texas in the fold. IF the big 10 grabs KU and OU, the big 12 is dead and texas will need to find a new home. Depending on what they do will have huge ripple effects. Let's say they go to the big 10 as team 17, my guess would be missouri would be team 18. Maybe they are content at 18 but i could see the big 10 keep growing and adjust their structure to the new members with new rules like divisions can have hoop tournaments.

What i would do right off the bat is invite 10 pac 12 school's, everybody but wash state and oreg state to get to 28 members, 4 pods of 7. Than you turn your focus to the ACC to rip apart. Not hard to see UVa and UNC want to become part of the a big 10 eastern lineup. I'm sure they sec could live well with the leftovers. Or the big 10 could just try to bring everybody in the fold, which wouldn't be bad for the school's invited to the party. If the end is a 60 team big 10 with 6 divisions of 10, does it really matter for the school's included? I mean under that concept alabama, UGA, etc would be in the big 10, basically the sec division of the big 10.

Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

What we saw from the released emails by UNC was that they faced considerable pressure to Not join The Big Ten but almost next to no pressure at all, internally, to not join the SEC. Instead of joining the SEC though, they simply circled the wagons and went all in with The ACC.

That much is abundantly clear. Saying that no one within UNC wanted to join The Big Ten at all? Well, there would be no reason for pressure to be put on UNC to not join The Big Ten if no one was thinking about doing just that.

As I have mentioned many times before. If the ACC were going to disappear and the only choice for Carolina was either the B1G or the SEC, Carolina would join the B1G.

(07-15-2015 07:42 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:00 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The sec would be foolish to think a big 10 couldn't be a huge threat to them with texas in the fold. IF the big 10 grabs KU and OU, the big 12 is dead and texas will need to find a new home. Depending on what they do will have huge ripple effects. Let's say they go to the big 10 as team 17, my guess would be missouri would be team 18. Maybe they are content at 18 but i could see the big 10 keep growing and adjust their structure to the new members with new rules like divisions can have hoop tournaments.

What i would do right off the bat is invite 10 pac 12 school's, everybody but wash state and oreg state to get to 28 members, 4 pods of 7. Than you turn your focus to the ACC to rip apart. Not hard to see UVa and UNC want to become part of the a big 10 eastern lineup. I'm sure they sec could live well with the leftovers. Or the big 10 could just try to bring everybody in the fold, which wouldn't be bad for the school's invited to the party. If the end is a 60 team big 10 with 6 divisions of 10, does it really matter for the school's included? I mean under that concept alabama, UGA, etc would be in the big 10, basically the sec division of the big 10.

Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

What we saw from the released emails by UNC was that they faced considerable pressure to Not join The Big Ten but almost next to no pressure at all, internally, to not join the SEC. Instead of joining the SEC though, they simply circled the wagons and went all in with The ACC.

That much is abundantly clear. Saying that no one within UNC wanted to join The Big Ten at all? Well, there would be no reason for pressure to be put on UNC to not join The Big Ten if no one was thinking about doing just that.

As I have mentioned many times before. If the ACC were going to disappear and the only choice for Carolina was either the B1G or the SEC, Carolina would join the B1G.

I sure hope you get the chance to be proven right or wrong about this.

(07-15-2015 07:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:42 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

What we saw from the released emails by UNC was that they faced considerable pressure to Not join The Big Ten but almost next to no pressure at all, internally, to not join the SEC. Instead of joining the SEC though, they simply circled the wagons and went all in with The ACC.

That much is abundantly clear. Saying that no one within UNC wanted to join The Big Ten at all? Well, there would be no reason for pressure to be put on UNC to not join The Big Ten if no one was thinking about doing just that.

As I have mentioned many times before. If the ACC were going to disappear and the only choice for Carolina was either the B1G or the SEC, Carolina would join the B1G.

I sure hope you get the chance to be proven right or wrong about this.

It's doubtful.

(07-15-2015 08:18 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:42 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

What we saw from the released emails by UNC was that they faced considerable pressure to Not join The Big Ten but almost next to no pressure at all, internally, to not join the SEC. Instead of joining the SEC though, they simply circled the wagons and went all in with The ACC.

That much is abundantly clear. Saying that no one within UNC wanted to join The Big Ten at all? Well, there would be no reason for pressure to be put on UNC to not join The Big Ten if no one was thinking about doing just that.

As I have mentioned many times before. If the ACC were going to disappear and the only choice for Carolina was either the B1G or the SEC, Carolina would join the B1G.

I sure hope you get the chance to be proven right or wrong about this.

It's doubtful.

Not really.

(07-15-2015 07:42 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:08 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:00 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The sec would be foolish to think a big 10 couldn't be a huge threat to them with texas in the fold. IF the big 10 grabs KU and OU, the big 12 is dead and texas will need to find a new home. Depending on what they do will have huge ripple effects. Let's say they go to the big 10 as team 17, my guess would be missouri would be team 18. Maybe they are content at 18 but i could see the big 10 keep growing and adjust their structure to the new members with new rules like divisions can have hoop tournaments.

What i would do right off the bat is invite 10 pac 12 school's, everybody but wash state and oreg state to get to 28 members, 4 pods of 7. Than you turn your focus to the ACC to rip apart. Not hard to see UVa and UNC want to become part of the a big 10 eastern lineup. I'm sure they sec could live well with the leftovers. Or the big 10 could just try to bring everybody in the fold, which wouldn't be bad for the school's invited to the party. If the end is a 60 team big 10 with 6 divisions of 10, does it really matter for the school's included? I mean under that concept alabama, UGA, etc would be in the big 10, basically the sec division of the big 10.

Um....source? Nobody at UNC wants to be in the Big 10, bud.

Yeah, I've always heard they were SEC contenders. I'm sure B10 would go after them as they fit the profile.

What we saw from the released emails by UNC was that they faced considerable pressure to Not join The Big Ten but almost next to no pressure at all, internally, to not join the SEC. Instead of joining the SEC though, they simply circled the wagons and went all in with The ACC.

That much is abundantly clear. Saying that no one within UNC wanted to join The Big Ten at all? Well, there would be no reason for pressure to be put on UNC to not join The Big Ten if no one was thinking about doing just that.

As I have mentioned many times before. If the ACC were going to disappear and the only choice for Carolina was either the B1G or the SEC, Carolina would join the B1G.

I don't think UNC would ever join The Big Ten if it was only expansion to 16 at this point in time. No way Carolina becomes the Southernmost school in The Big Ten.

I honestly do believe there were talks about a 20 team Big Ten, I was saying that well before Frankie boy ever was. That blowback was no joke, no way UNC could do it without a bunch of friends coming with.

(07-15-2015 05:40 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Uh I don't want to spoil the ending here, but given where this is headed, if you aren't a fan of the Rice Owls then the whole game of "trying to claim the moral high ground in college athletics" doesn't end well.

Speaking of which do you think they will play a role in future realignment?

I don't know much about them but at face value it seem that although the athletics would probably not interest them much that the idea of being in a academic minded conference with schools from the B1G and PAC might be more appealing than their current conference.

KU, OU, Rice, ?? to the B1G?