would the MAC not become a better spot for Marshall if this report is true?

I hate hat for CUSA as 400k per team is kinda understandable (if it comes with some exposure)...200k is insulting.

(06-07-2016 12:20 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  What the hell numbers is our AD looking at then? So confused, tweeted to our Local Newspaper writer, maybe he has an explanation? Somehow doubt it but we will see...9 million to 2.8 million is either a straight up lie or our AD is completely out of touch with our new TV deal...Either way disappointing to say the least...

im curious why your AD lied then...

honestly this 2.8 mil made way more sense thna the 9 mil

numerous AD/Schools were reporting about a drastic drop and an adjustment.. 9 mil isnt a drastic drop and for all things considered would have been a great deal

and espn only has 6 games and cbsports only had 6...i doubt bein is paying millions or ASN

i had a hard time believing espn/cbssports were paying 8mil+ for 12 games

(06-07-2016 12:11 PM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  Oh my.

Also a little disappointed at the limited number of games allocated to ESPN3.

I think that is just ESPN. not ESPN 3. I don't think we know how many they will show. ODU plays NCSU on ESPN3 and that wasn't one of the games listed there. regardless, this is pretty bad and weak. knowing that I'll likely have to deal with ASN for another year is painful.

On the bright side as a Miner fan it's cool that we will be the first American football game broadcast by bein sports.

Brad responded to the $6.2 million dollar difference.

"Much of that (6.2 million) is networks covering TV production costs rather than individual schools. That saves schools $$."

So it seems when the WKU & ODU ADs said the deal was $9mil it includes production costs. (Why they would say that is beyond me). Total amount paid to schools is $2.8mil. It Suuuuuuccccckkkkksssss. Using $9 MIL sounds better than $2.8MIL I guess.

(06-07-2016 12:54 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 12:11 PM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  Oh my.

Also a little disappointed at the limited number of games allocated to ESPN3.

I think that is just ESPN. not ESPN 3. I don't think we know how many they will show. ODU plays NCSU on ESPN3 and that wasn't one of the games listed there. regardless, this is pretty bad and weak. knowing that I'll likely have to deal with ASN for another year is painful.

Not what article said...10 football games allocated to ESPN3, 6 football games on ESPN TV which those games have already been announced.

(06-07-2016 12:54 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 12:11 PM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  Oh my.

Also a little disappointed at the limited number of games allocated to ESPN3.

I think that is just ESPN. not ESPN 3. I don't think we know how many they will show. ODU plays NCSU on ESPN3 and that wasn't one of the games listed there. regardless, this is pretty bad and weak. knowing that I'll likely have to deal with ASN for another year is painful.

Near the bottom of the article:

"Schools will be required to upgrade broadcast facilities to meet ESPN standards. At least 10 football games, 10 men's and women's basketball games and Olympic sports championship games in men's and women's soccer, baseball and other sports would be televised on ESPN3."

This TV deal is for games that happen at C-USA schools, not for every game C-USA schools are involved in. Same reason why CBS Sports doesn't televise games that are played at Big 10 schools, they don't have the rights. Since the NC State game is at NC State, it won't be included in this package.

(06-07-2016 12:58 PM)SATXBOSSMAN Wrote:  So it seems when the WKU & ODU ADs said the deal was $9mil it includes production costs. (Why they would say that is beyond me). Total amount paid to schools is $2.8mil. It Suuuuuuccccckkkkksssss. Using $9 MIL sounds better than $2.8MIL I guess.

Spin. Pure spin.

(06-07-2016 12:54 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  On the bright side as a Miner fan it's cool that we will be the first American football game broadcast by bein sports.

Yes it is cool but earlier it was reported that all BeIn game start times would be 5:30pm eastern which is 3:30pm in El Paso. Could be damn hot on Sept 3rd.

(06-07-2016 01:30 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 12:54 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  On the bright side as a Miner fan it's cool that we will be the first American football game broadcast by bein sports.

Yes it is cool but earlier it was reported that all BeIn game start times would be 5:30pm eastern which is 3:30pm in El Paso. Could be damn hot on Sept 3rd.

Did you a see a full season BeIn schedule posted anywhere, or was this a single piece of information?

It's on the left of article, has ESPN and BeIn games.

(06-07-2016 01:31 PM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 01:30 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 12:54 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  On the bright side as a Miner fan it's cool that we will be the first American football game broadcast by bein sports.

Yes it is cool but earlier it was reported that all BeIn game start times would be 5:30pm eastern which is 3:30pm in El Paso. Could be damn hot on Sept 3rd.

Did you a see a full season BeIn schedule posted anywhere, or was this a single piece of information?

It's pinned on the left margin of the Pilot story of our conference money going way down.

Pilot

Not sure a copy and paste will work but here goes:

Conference USA TV schedule for ESPN, beIN Sports

ESPN

Thu, Sept. 1, 7:30 p.m., Indiana at FIU, ESPNU

Fri, Sept. 16, 8 p.m., No. 7 Baylor at Rice, ESPN

9:30 p.m., Arizona State at UTSA, ESPN2

Fri, Nov. 25, TBA, Louisiana Tech at Southern Miss, TBA

Sat, Nov. 26, TBA, Western Kentcuky at Marshall, TBA

Sat, Dec. 3 , TBA, C-USA Football Championship Game, ESPN or ESPN2

beIN Sports

Sat, Sept. 3, New Mexico State at UTEP, time TBA

Sat., Sept. 10, Morgan State at Marshall, time TBA

Sat., Sept. 17, Troy at Southern Miss, time TBA

Sat. Sept. 24, Central Florida at Florida International, time TBA

Sat. Oct 1, Florida Atlantic at Florida International, time TBA

Sat., Oct. 15, Texas-San Antonio at Rice, time TBA

Sat. Oct. 22, UNC Charlotte at Marshall, time TBA

Nov. 5, Florida International at Western Kentucky, time TBA

Nov. 19, Southern Miss at North Texas, time TBA

Nov. 29, Florida Atlantic at Middle Tennessee State, time TBA

Sorry, but Marshall can make more than $200k a year by retaining our own tier one and tier two rights and selling the content ourselves. Quite honestly, if I were the conference commish I would have told them to pound sand and given the rights back to the individual schools to negotiate. I would imagine most schools could generate more than $200,000 acting independently with their rights. For those that can't, sorry.

Got it ... thanks to both of you. Not sure how I missed that.

(06-07-2016 01:38 PM)banker Wrote:  Sorry, but Marshall can make more than $200k a year by retaining our own tier one and tier two rights and selling the content ourselves. Quite honestly, if I were the conference commish I would have told them to pound sand and given the rights back to the individual schools to negotiate. I would imagine most schools could generate more than $200,000 acting independently with their rights. For those that can't, sorry.

This, especially if you factor in lower ticket sales for Thurs-Fri games and/or non ideal start times. 200K is very close to being walk away money.

The old shell game.Trust--BETRAYED!!!


*** I would like to APOLOGIZE at this time to this board.I was incorrect.I was pretty aggressive in defending the 9 million dollar figure.I was fooled by the incomplete comments of two AD's I thought were reliable.They had a chance to clarify and did not.

Even went over on the SBC board and defended the new contract and argued the data.Will have to be more cautious in the future.

I suggest fans that want to e-mail their AD(esp. Stewart and Selig)to complain about the lower deal AND the deceptive way figures were released.Hope any information I get in the future is more reliable.

(06-07-2016 01:43 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  The old shell game.Trust--BETRAYED!!!


*** I would like to APOLOGIZE at this time to this board.I was incorrect.I was pretty aggressive in defending the 9 million dollar figure.I was fooled by the incomplete comments of two AD's I thought were reliable.They had a chance to clarify and did not.

Even went over on the SBC board and defended the new contract and argued the data.Will have to be more cautious in the future.

I suggest fans that want to e-mail their AD(esp. Stewart and Selig)to complain about the lower deal AND the deceptive way figures were released.Hope any information I get in the future is more reliable.

Not a problem as I also felt the 9 million per year figure was likely right. I already went to the SBC board and back peddled but the AD's are the ones at fault, really. Who can you trust these days, right?

Fire the entire C-USA admin staff and save a couple of million right there.

(06-07-2016 01:38 PM)banker Wrote:  Sorry, but Marshall can make more than $200k a year by retaining our own tier one and tier two rights and selling the content ourselves. Quite honestly, if I were the conference commish I would have told them to pound sand and given the rights back to the individual schools to negotiate. I would imagine most schools could generate more than $200,000 acting independently with their rights. For those that can't, sorry.

I agree. The article said ODU is making 70k off in-house digital rights alone. I'd be interested if others know their schools figures.

(06-07-2016 01:41 PM)chidave Wrote:  This, especially if you factor in lower ticket sales for Thurs-Fri games and/or non ideal start times. 200K is very close to being walk away money.

The 200K would be worth telling someone to go F themselves alone.