(06-12-2016 10:15 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  3) He was of Afghan origin

He's an anchor baby.

(06-12-2016 08:58 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 07:20 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  and so many here worry about us atheists as a threat....couldn't be further from the truth...

just super sigh to religion and the fanatics it will always attract.....what a waste of flesh and time....

Sure, it's real easy to come to that conclusion... if you just ignore the millions who have been killed by atheists.

Hold on a minute. Stinky the 24/7 pothead is an aetheist? Since when?

(06-12-2016 10:20 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:17 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:16 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:05 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  50 is a lot of folks.

That's awful.

Biggest mass shooting in American history by 18 people right now. VT was the biggest before this morning.

It's pretty awful what a competent mass shooter can do.

what I can't figure out is what has taken them so long to figure out this part of the equation....

it's only going to get worse....just wait until they chop shop an entire elementary school....

That's already happened. But we did nothing then.

The only difference between Friday night's shooting and Saturday night's shooting was the heritage of the shooter and the number of rounds he was able to get off. One is an assination, the other a terrorist attack.

I'm holding off for details.

50 dead and 53 wounded... I wonder what the fearless leader has to say about this. I am pretty sure he will blame this on the gun.


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(06-12-2016 10:43 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Im heading to Orlando for a work conference in July. 1,800 people expected. Hope security is tight.

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Spent about 2 months there this year (near Lake Ellenor). The amount of people there that always talked about going to this club was staggering.

(06-12-2016 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  50 dead and 53 wounded... I wonder what the fearless leader has to say about this. I am pretty sure he will blame this on the gun.


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What's more important to you? The few hundred people truly effected by this or your anti-Obama hardon?

(06-12-2016 10:44 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  So I know nothing about guns. But I'm curious, how many rounds of ammunition can one get from an assault rifle. I'm trying to figure out how someone can kill 50 and injure 53 more without being tackled by someone trying to save their own life. In situations like this, you're supposed to hide first but in a last resort, you rush the attacker.

He would have had to re-load a couple or few times. Also, as a Florida resident and CCW holder, it's important to note that bars are no gun zones. Even with a valid permit, you cannot carry in a bar in Florida. Everyone there was defenseless basically.

Serious question to the liberals here, why is it okay to consider banning a constitutional right (2nd amendment right), but not to consider banning Islam (1st amendment right)? Islam kills a lot of people around the world.

(06-12-2016 10:15 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:02 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 09:54 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 09:32 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Sheeple alert.

Never miss an opportunity to use a crisis for advantage.

The problem is that every time a mass shooting happens, conservatives give their boilerplate condolences and say "now is not the time" to talk about the gun issue, then after a few days it fades from the news cycle and memory.

Rinse, repeat. Time after time, month after month. It's a diversion tactic, but it works for them.

Because it is time to talk about the MUSLIM ISSUE. Are you people blind? 50 ARE DEAD. At least. Muslim. Kebab.

There are layers upon layers of information about this that need to be discussed.

Here's what we know

1) 50 people are dead in a Gay bar shooting in Orlando
2) The shooter is dead and was a US born citizen
3) He was of Afghan origin
4) It is Gay pride month.
5) There are lots of persons of Islamic heritage who go to Gay bars.
6) He used a pistol and an assault rifle to commit these killings

Here's what we don't know

1) Was this person a member of the Gay community? Was he kicked out of the bar last month?
2) Was it radical Islamic terrorism?
3) Where did he get the assault rifle? If illegal, where? If legally obtained, where?

Sounds like another clear cut case of workplace violence per the Obama administration.

(06-12-2016 11:00 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:44 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  So I know nothing about guns. But I'm curious, how many rounds of ammunition can one get from an assault rifle. I'm trying to figure out how someone can kill 50 and injure 53 more without being tackled by someone trying to save their own life. In situations like this, you're supposed to hide first but in a last resort, you rush the attacker.

He would have had to re-load a couple or few times. Also, as a Florida resident and CCW holder, it's important to note that bars are no gun zones. Even with a valid permit, you cannot carry in a bar in Florida. Everyone there was defenseless basically.

Serious question to the liberals here, why is it okay to consider banning a constitutional right (2nd amendment right), but not to consider banning Islam (1st amendment right)? Islam kills a lot of people around the world.

I think that's an unfair ******* question for the liberals. It's largely a straw man. I'm pretty certain that there have been less than 5 serious posters--all-time--that ever advocated banning guns. You shouldn't ask them to defend a position they don't necessarily hold, unless someone just wants to play devil's advocate.

(06-12-2016 10:51 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  The only difference between Friday night's shooting and Saturday night's shooting was the heritage of the shooter and the number of rounds he was able to get off. One is an assination, the other a terrorist attack.

And the people are all just as dead.

This isn't the first attack like this, but rather just the attack with the most number of fatalities.

This isn't the first attack on a Gay venue by a religious extremist either.

This isn't the first mass murder of Gay persons in the USA either.

(06-12-2016 11:05 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:00 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:44 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  So I know nothing about guns. But I'm curious, how many rounds of ammunition can one get from an assault rifle. I'm trying to figure out how someone can kill 50 and injure 53 more without being tackled by someone trying to save their own life. In situations like this, you're supposed to hide first but in a last resort, you rush the attacker.

He would have had to re-load a couple or few times. Also, as a Florida resident and CCW holder, it's important to note that bars are no gun zones. Even with a valid permit, you cannot carry in a bar in Florida. Everyone there was defenseless basically.

Serious question to the liberals here, why is it okay to consider banning a constitutional right (2nd amendment right), but not to consider banning Islam (1st amendment right)? Islam kills a lot of people around the world.

I think that's an unfair ******* question for the liberals. It's largely a straw man. I'm pretty certain that there have been less than 5 serious posters--all-time--that ever advocated banning guns. You shouldn't ask them to defend a position they don't necessarily hold, unless someone just wants to play devil's advocate.

Advocating for strict licensing and record keeping requirements, bans on certain types of firearms (or extremely strict licensing for those higher caliber/round arms), and bans on certain types of clips is not the same as banning all firearms.

They don't call them 'defense rifles' for a reason. They call them assault rifles.

(06-12-2016 10:58 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  50 dead and 53 wounded... I wonder what the fearless leader has to say about this. I am pretty sure he will blame this on the gun.


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What's more important to you? The few hundred people truly effected by this or your anti-Obama hardon?

And of course you would and stick up for him...


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(06-12-2016 07:41 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  disclaimer: if anyone comes with the 'gay sect deserved it', I will verbally roast your uber right conservative nuts...

it will be then in understanding the 'why' atheism is the future....I'll toss out those not so subtle hints for free too....just try it...I'll hurt your feelin's w/o skipping a beat...

edit3 hint: hence, Trump! ...this incident is not even close to any comparative that got dipshite beer drinking bud bush jr. elected... don't kid yourself, Trump is going to use this one....and I can only hope he uses tactful rhetoric.....

You're the only one bringing it up. Who is the hate filled troll? Suggest you look in the mirror.

(06-12-2016 11:08 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:05 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:00 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:44 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  So I know nothing about guns. But I'm curious, how many rounds of ammunition can one get from an assault rifle. I'm trying to figure out how someone can kill 50 and injure 53 more without being tackled by someone trying to save their own life. In situations like this, you're supposed to hide first but in a last resort, you rush the attacker.

He would have had to re-load a couple or few times. Also, as a Florida resident and CCW holder, it's important to note that bars are no gun zones. Even with a valid permit, you cannot carry in a bar in Florida. Everyone there was defenseless basically.

Serious question to the liberals here, why is it okay to consider banning a constitutional right (2nd amendment right), but not to consider banning Islam (1st amendment right)? Islam kills a lot of people around the world.

I think that's an unfair ******* question for the liberals. It's largely a straw man. I'm pretty certain that there have been less than 5 serious posters--all-time--that ever advocated banning guns. You shouldn't ask them to defend a position they don't necessarily hold, unless someone just wants to play devil's advocate.

Advocating for strict licensing and record keeping requirements, bans on certain types of firearms (or extremely strict licensing for those higher caliber/round arms), and bans on certain types of clips is not the same as banning all firearms.

They don't call them 'defense rifles' for a reason. They call them assault rifles.

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(06-12-2016 08:56 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 08:34 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  So who is higher on the PC hierarchy...gays or Muslims?

Surely gun control fanatics aren't thick enough to think if terrorists can acquire guns in France that background checks and "assault weapons" bans will do anything to stop these kinds of attacks.

Wait a minute, of course they are.

We'll need to import more Syrians to get a serious answer to your question. I wonder what color they will use to light up the White House??

They're putting up a 2nd fence at the White House since the Secret Service is so politically correct they have a female at the entrance and the rest are drunk and incompetent.

(06-12-2016 11:05 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:51 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  The only difference between Friday night's shooting and Saturday night's shooting was the heritage of the shooter and the number of rounds he was able to get off. One is an assination, the other a terrorist attack.

And the people are all just as dead.

This isn't the first attack like this, but rather just the attack with the most number of fatalities.

This isn't the first attack on a Gay venue by a religious extremist either.

This isn't the first mass murder of Gay persons in the USA either.

What's your point or are you rambling purposely

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The father of the shooter has told investigators that the shooter was 'disgusted by two men kissing' when he was in Miami with his kids.

Was it Islamic terrorism, or just anti-Gay hatred? Or both? Could be either.

(06-12-2016 11:10 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:58 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  50 dead and 53 wounded... I wonder what the fearless leader has to say about this. I am pretty sure he will blame this on the gun.


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What's more important to you? The few hundred people truly effected by this or your anti-Obama hardon?

And of course you would and stick up for him...


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No need to stick up for him, but I don't see the need to make what happened to these people, their parents, friends, etc less important just so I can feel good on a message board.

I'm sorry, but it takes a really, really messed up person to do that.