(06-12-2016 11:14 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:08 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:05 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:00 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:44 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  So I know nothing about guns. But I'm curious, how many rounds of ammunition can one get from an assault rifle. I'm trying to figure out how someone can kill 50 and injure 53 more without being tackled by someone trying to save their own life. In situations like this, you're supposed to hide first but in a last resort, you rush the attacker.

He would have had to re-load a couple or few times. Also, as a Florida resident and CCW holder, it's important to note that bars are no gun zones. Even with a valid permit, you cannot carry in a bar in Florida. Everyone there was defenseless basically.

Serious question to the liberals here, why is it okay to consider banning a constitutional right (2nd amendment right), but not to consider banning Islam (1st amendment right)? Islam kills a lot of people around the world.

I think that's an unfair ******* question for the liberals. It's largely a straw man. I'm pretty certain that there have been less than 5 serious posters--all-time--that ever advocated banning guns. You shouldn't ask them to defend a position they don't necessarily hold, unless someone just wants to play devil's advocate.

Advocating for strict licensing and record keeping requirements, bans on certain types of firearms (or extremely strict licensing for those higher caliber/round arms), and bans on certain types of clips is not the same as banning all firearms.

They don't call them 'defense rifles' for a reason. They call them assault rifles.

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So why are we giving away so many licenses? That's my question. How hard is it to get a license in Florida? My entire point was that Florida gives away licenses like this to just about all comers, with few questions asked.

(06-12-2016 10:58 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  50 dead and 53 wounded... I wonder what the fearless leader has to say about this. I am pretty sure he will blame this on the gun.


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What's more important to you? The few hundred people truly effected by this or your anti-Obama hardon?

Thank you!

I drive down that street almost daily. It's on my route to church, which I didn't go to today. Buy gas and put air in my tires at the 7/11 across the street. Just got my windows tinted a couple months ago in the red building next door. My favorite Thai restaurant and Starbucks are across the street. Target is next door, my fresh produce and meat groceries is a couple buildings down. This could have happened to anyone. I'm safe because I'm old and was in bed by 11:30 last night. Most of the club district in Orlando is in the business district. The gay clubs are off the beaten track, probably for safety from other clubgoers, and this is what made them vulnerable.

Isis has these guys in place to do this. Of course can't blame Islam. They are just peace loving people

(06-12-2016 11:00 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:44 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  So I know nothing about guns. But I'm curious, how many rounds of ammunition can one get from an assault rifle. I'm trying to figure out how someone can kill 50 and injure 53 more without being tackled by someone trying to save their own life. In situations like this, you're supposed to hide first but in a last resort, you rush the attacker.

He would have had to re-load a couple or few times. Also, as a Florida resident and CCW holder, it's important to note that bars are no gun zones. Even with a valid permit, you cannot carry in a bar in Florida. Everyone there was defenseless basically.

So they're defenseless while he's shooting. But wouldn't he be fair game while he's reloading.

I'm just saying because we just watched a How Do You Defend Yourself video at work to protect yourself from office violence. It seems to me that in a situation like this, all you can do is mass attack the shooter when he's reloading.

(06-12-2016 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The father of the shooter has told investigators that the shooter was 'disgusted by two men kissing' when he was in Miami with his kids.

Was it Islamic terrorism, or just anti-Gay hatred? Or both? Could be either.

Yet Obama and the liberal sh*theads want us to import 50,000 more of them into this country.

(06-12-2016 11:18 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:10 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:58 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  50 dead and 53 wounded... I wonder what the fearless leader has to say about this. I am pretty sure he will blame this on the gun.


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What's more important to you? The few hundred people truly effected by this or your anti-Obama hardon?

And of course you would and stick up for him...


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No need to stick up for him, but I don't see the need to make what happened to these people, their parents, friends, etc less important just so I can feel good on a message board.

I'm sorry, but it takes a really, really messed up person to do that.

I never said that it was less important, that's what you are interpreting. Maybe you are the one that's making it less important...


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What part of the way Muslims treat gays has Obama missed? It is well known how Islam treats gays, yet Obame just ignores it and praises them anyway.

(06-12-2016 11:28 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The father of the shooter has told investigators that the shooter was 'disgusted by two men kissing' when he was in Miami with his kids.

Was it Islamic terrorism, or just anti-Gay hatred? Or both? Could be either.

Yet Obama and the liberal sh*theads want us to import 50,000 more of them into this country.

And so the spin begins.

Workplace violence. Hate crime. Random act of violence. Lone wolf.

Libs will tie themselves in knots to label this anything other than what it really is.

Everyone knows domestic terrorists are only right wingers.

(06-12-2016 10:58 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  50 dead and 53 wounded... I wonder what the fearless leader has to say about this. I am pretty sure he will blame this on the gun.


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What's more important to you? The few hundred people truly effected by this or your anti-Obama hardon?

What about your pro-Obama hardon? Maybe deal with that before getting your jimmies rustled.

(06-12-2016 11:33 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:18 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:10 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:58 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  50 dead and 53 wounded... I wonder what the fearless leader has to say about this. I am pretty sure he will blame this on the gun.


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What's more important to you? The few hundred people truly effected by this or your anti-Obama hardon?

And of course you would and stick up for him...


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No need to stick up for him, but I don't see the need to make what happened to these people, their parents, friends, etc less important just so I can feel good on a message board.

I'm sorry, but it takes a really, really messed up person to do that.

I never said that it was less important, that's what you are interpreting. Maybe you are the one that's making it less important...


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I mentioned that a few hundred people were affected by this and you called that sticking up for Obama.

Look, I don't know you outside of your internet persona, but if you're like this in real life you need help.

(06-12-2016 09:01 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  News this a.m. has local investigators saying they have indications of terror affiliation or sympathizer with LGBT Club shooting. Shooter has an Islamic name. They just gave it on tv.

Haven't heard much on the background of the Grimmie shooter. Is that person named?

Given that we are at the start of the summer vacation/holiday season if both turn out to have terror connections or sympathies makes me wonder if Orlando was selected as a c target city because it is a major tourist destination similar to Paris.

Terrorists want to strike at our hearts and put fear in our minds. No better way to do that then to make us fear going on vacation.

Better double down on security at Sea World, Disney World, Epcot, Universal Studios, etc.

Terror is here. We are not immune nor any safer than European countries. And we are letting the terror enter our country as refugees and giving them benefits when they arrive. #trojanhorse #lettingtheenemyinsideourgates

They already have. Was in LA last week. The studios and theme parks had much higher security than they used to.

(06-11-2016 05:24 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Absolutely, but you can't ask people to not pursue their dreams either. I still remember hearing about Rebecca Schaeffer getting killed by an obsessed fan back in the 1980's (she was a TV/movie star gunned down by a nut at her apartment). Theresa Saldana was another high profile stalking case - she survived her attack but she just recently died of cancer I believe a few days ago in her early 60's.

John Lennon, of course.

(06-12-2016 09:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 09:31 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Meanwhile, this is the response of Lt Governor Dan Patrick of Texas
http://www.joemygod.com/2016/06/12/texas...cking-god/
WTF?

Dan Patrick is an idiot and an a-hole.

Saw that posted by a friend of mine, pointing out that he had always been an " idiot and an a-hole."

(06-12-2016 11:38 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:58 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  50 dead and 53 wounded... I wonder what the fearless leader has to say about this. I am pretty sure he will blame this on the gun.


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What's more important to you? The few hundred people truly effected by this or your anti-Obama hardon?

What about your pro-Obama hardon? Maybe deal with that before getting your jimmies rustled.

How many times must you be wrong about me before you stop?

I'm not pro-Obama. I'm Obama neutral on the best of days. I just never made him my boogeyman. Especially not enough of a boogeyman to even have him cross my mind when we had 50 GD DEATHS!

Obama ignored how Islam treats gays. Well, he has to address that fact now. His love for Islam overrides everything else

(06-12-2016 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The father of the shooter has told investigators that the shooter was 'disgusted by two men kissing' when he was in Miami with his kids.

Was it Islamic terrorism, or just anti-Gay hatred? Or both? Could be either.

He also said it had nothing to do with religion. Nice to see the Islamaphobes got their pot shots in anyway. Wonder how they reacted after Dylan Roof shot up that Charleston church. Probably blamed Muslims.

Looks like this guy has more in common with Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and the rest of the anti gay Christian right than they want to admit.

But oh, we can't ban assault rifles and high capacity magazines because this is exactly what the founders had in mind when they wrote the Second Amendment.

You know, a celebrity signing autographs was attacked by a deranged fan in Japan last month too. But it was with a knife, and she survived. That's not going to happen in a country with loud mouthed right wingers who demand unfettered access to military style weapons because freedom or something.

(06-12-2016 11:37 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:28 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The father of the shooter has told investigators that the shooter was 'disgusted by two men kissing' when he was in Miami with his kids.

Was it Islamic terrorism, or just anti-Gay hatred? Or both? Could be either.

Yet Obama and the liberal sh*theads want us to import 50,000 more of them into this country.

And so the spin begins.

Workplace violence. Hate crime. Random act of violence. Lone wolf.

Libs will tie themselves in knots to label this anything other than what it really is.

Everyone knows domestic terrorists are only right wingers.

I love how Lazy Tom is posting in a thread about how a christian woman was murdered. Only that, he didnt post about the christian woman.

For liberals, some peoples lives (christians, unborn babies, babies that were accidentally born) are worth much less than others. (liberal, gender confused, binary, muslim)

Everyone's life is important.

If you want the violence to stop, you have to go after the root cause. The root cause is not guns. If you keep going back to gun control, you dont care about people getting killed. You only care about your agenda.

And its vey sad that the root cause of one of these violent acts was muslim extremism. Yet, you liberals arent getting butthurt over that. Its time you guys showed some anger at the real root cause. Get angry ay muslim extremism. Get angry at Obama. The moment the people that he takes for granted starts getting mad at him is the moment he starts to act.

(06-12-2016 09:27 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  50 dead in a Gay bar in Orlando.

We don't know what the motivation was of the shooter. All we know is that they used an assault rifle.

Do we know the weapon model yet? All I've seen is an "assault-style" weapon which can mean literally anything.

(06-12-2016 11:47 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The father of the shooter has told investigators that the shooter was 'disgusted by two men kissing' when he was in Miami with his kids.

Was it Islamic terrorism, or just anti-Gay hatred? Or both? Could be either.

He also said it had nothing to do with religion. Nice to see the Islamaphobes got their pot shots in anyway. Wonder how they reacted after Dylan Roof shot up that Charleston church. Probably blamed Muslims.

Looks like this guy has more in common with Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and the rest of the anti gay Christian right than they want to admit.

But oh, we can't ban assault rifles and high capacity magazines because this is exactly what the founders had in mind when they wrote the Second Amendment.

You know, a celebrity signing autographs was attacked by a deranged fan in Japan last month too. But it was with a knife, and she survived. That's not going to happen in a country with loud mouthed right wingers who demand unfettered access to military style weapons because freedom or something.

Feel free to move to Japan.

(06-12-2016 11:40 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:33 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:18 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:10 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:58 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  What's more important to you? The few hundred people truly effected by this or your anti-Obama hardon?

And of course you would and stick up for him...


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No need to stick up for him, but I don't see the need to make what happened to these people, their parents, friends, etc less important just so I can feel good on a message board.

I'm sorry, but it takes a really, really messed up person to do that.

I never said that it was less important, that's what you are interpreting. Maybe you are the one that's making it less important...


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I mentioned that a few hundred people were affected by this and you called that sticking up for Obama.

Look, I don't know you outside of your internet persona, but if you're like this in real life you need help.

And here comes the personal attacks. What's up with you liberals attacking the person? So just because I don't like obummer, I need help? Really? Should I get help because I drink beer? What about if I like tacos? Is that something I should get help for too?


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