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RE: NCHC to Arizona State and Minnesota State: Not now, fellas.
(09-01-2016 04:35 PM)NoDak Wrote:  If Grand Valley St, Wayne St or Oakland had hockey, they would be seriously considered just because they are in metro regions. Ferris St and all the UP teams wouldn't get a invite. Toledo, Akron and Cleveland St would probably get consideration too.

Bowling Green is in metropolitan Toledo, for what it's worth.
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RE: NCHC to Arizona State and Minnesota State: Not now, fellas.
(09-01-2016 04:57 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Now I'm kind of hoping a west coast league forms.

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(09-01-2016 03:16 PM)Mav Wrote:  If a school with their resume was in Michigan they'd get an invite.

How do you figure Michigan is an advantage, geographically?

If Grand Valley St, Wayne St or Oakland had hockey, they would be seriously considered just because they are in metro regions. Ferris St and all the UP teams wouldn't get a invite. Toledo, Akron and Cleveland St would probably get consideration too.

Not unless those above schools already had top D1 programs. A Michigan team transitioning to D1 wouldn't get North Dakota's vote.

Also, if one of the UP teams had a quality team when the NCHC formed, the UP team would've gotten the invite over WMU. I don't think FSU got the bid at the time because they wanted 8 teams, and it was either FSU or WMU, and for various reasons, WMU was chosen. (bigger city, more success against, bigger school)
A Grand Rapids or Detroit metro school with a reasonable arena would get CBS's vote. If a school has a nice arena, that goes a long way towards acceptance. Ariz St does not have a nice arena yet, which is its holdup. Still waiting for WMU's.
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RE: NCHC to Arizona State and Minnesota State: Not now, fellas.
Mankato to Hockey East! sorry I got a little carried away
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RE: NCHC to Arizona State and Minnesota State: Not now, fellas.
(09-01-2016 04:24 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 03:16 PM)Mav Wrote:  If a school with their resume was in Michigan they'd get an invite.

How do you figure Michigan is an advantage, geographically?
I was referring to MSU-M, not ASU. Michigan would be an advantage just because it has less teams than Minnesota, and it'd put the two MAC members of the NCHC on less of an island.
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RE: NCHC to Arizona State and Minnesota State: Not now, fellas.
Well, the state of Michigan has more DI hockey programs than the state of Minnesota, total.

But guessing you were saying that the NCHC has two Minnesota teams as opposed to only one Michigan team. Nonetheless, I don't see the NCHC jumping at Ferris St.
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RE: NCHC to Arizona State and Minnesota State: Not now, fellas.
Tweets were flying today about how Ariz St approached Hockey East to fill Notre Dame's slot.

Hockey East turned them down so Holy Cross and Bentley still have hope.

No doubt the NCHC will take them when a rink is built as their recruiting has been fine.

Should try Atlantic Hockey Association for temporary fix and access to an autobid.
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RE: NCHC to Arizona State and Minnesota State: Not now, fellas.
NCHC should just take Arizona St since Notre Dame jumped to the Big 10.

(09-01-2016 05:54 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 04:57 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Now I'm kind of hoping a west coast league forms.

(09-01-2016 04:35 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 04:24 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 03:16 PM)Mav Wrote:  If a school with their resume was in Michigan they'd get an invite.

How do you figure Michigan is an advantage, geographically?

If Grand Valley St, Wayne St or Oakland had hockey, they would be seriously considered just because they are in metro regions. Ferris St and all the UP teams wouldn't get a invite. Toledo, Akron and Cleveland St would probably get consideration too.

Not unless those above schools already had top D1 programs. A Michigan team transitioning to D1 wouldn't get North Dakota's vote.

Also, if one of the UP teams had a quality team when the NCHC formed, the UP team would've gotten the invite over WMU. I don't think FSU got the bid at the time because they wanted 8 teams, and it was either FSU or WMU, and for various reasons, WMU was chosen. (bigger city, more success against, bigger school)
A Grand Rapids or Detroit metro school with a reasonable arena would get CBS's vote. If a school has a nice arena, that goes a long way towards acceptance. Ariz St does not have a nice arena yet, which is its holdup. Still waiting for WMU's.
Not sure what WMU not having a new arena has anything to do with it. Could the NCHC kick us out for not having a new one?
(This post was last modified: 11-01-2017 04:53 PM by Bronco'14.)
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RE: NCHC to Arizona State and Minnesota State: Not now, fellas.
I didn't realize the Arizona State/Coyotes plan to build a new facility and bring the Coyotes to Tempe had fell through (looking at articles it is now old news, but I missed it).

Will be interesting to see what they do, but Oceanside where they play now is unacceptable at only 800 capacity.
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RE: NCHC to Arizona State and Minnesota State: Not now, fellas.
Do they sell out the 800 seat arena?
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RE: NCHC to Arizona State and Minnesota State: Not now, fellas.
(11-01-2017 07:52 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Do they sell out the 800 seat arena?

No idea, but I do know they draw well.
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