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(12-07-2016 09:20 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  It could be that UH still is the hottest job, but trying to put a huge buyout on the next coach was enough to cool down the allure of UH.

Top coaching candidates might prefer G5 job #2 with a normal buyout over job #1 with a huge buyout.

Houston's salary at say $$3 million + per season is quite impressive and if the buyout is scaring them away than they can go suck donkey balls as far as I am concerned.

Houston has lots to offer to anyone wanting to coach here... 1. Tremendous salary, 2. Beautiful new football stadium, 3. Outstanding recruting grounds, 4. Fan support and if they do a decent job while coaching here their short time in Houston will definitely be worth their wait = $$$

If say for example the buyout scared Riley away than perhaps he isn't as smart as he thinks he may be... His loss not ours.

No thats our loss. Missing out on a big name like riley because we refuse to budge on buy-out is not good. If coaches are saying no because of it then we need to realize sometimes we have to bite the bullet and do what will help the program even if we dont like it.

You do realize we no longer play at Robertson stadium. You also do realize Houston has tremendously upgraded it's football head coach salary $$$. Oh and let's not forget Houston's much improved strong tv exposure now.

Like I said their loss not ours

All positives and that is exactly why we should be one of the top non P5 jobs. The fact is though a hot name coach still turning us down is a bad sign for our ad not him. OU outclasses us in every way and that is what Lincoln Riley turned us down for. Not only that but he turned us down to stay a coordinator for leas money.

You would have a point if it was a coach from a lower program with facilities that are not as good as ours. But he turned us down to stay as a coordinator at OU, a school with better facilities, so its our loss not his.
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RE: UH begins coaching search in wake of Tom Herman's departure
(12-07-2016 10:37 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 10:29 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 10:17 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 10:10 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 09:20 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  It could be that UH still is the hottest job, but trying to put a huge buyout on the next coach was enough to cool down the allure of UH.

Top coaching candidates might prefer G5 job #2 with a normal buyout over job #1 with a huge buyout.

Houston's salary at say $$3 million + per season is quite impressive and if the buyout is scaring them away than they can go suck donkey balls as far as I am concerned.

Houston has lots to offer to anyone wanting to coach here... 1. Tremendous salary, 2. Beautiful new football stadium, 3. Outstanding recruting grounds, 4. Fan support and if they do a decent job while coaching here their short time in Houston will definitely be worth their wait = $$$

If say for example the buyout scared Riley away than perhaps he isn't as smart as he thinks he may be... His loss not ours.

No thats our loss. Missing out on a big name like riley because we refuse to budge on buy-out is not good. If coaches are saying no because of it then we need to realize sometimes we have to bite the bullet and do what will help the program even if we dont like it.

You do realize we no longer play at Robertson stadium. You also do realize Houston has tremendously upgraded it's football head coach salary $$$. Oh and let's not forget Houston's much improved strong tv exposure now.

Like I said their loss not ours

All positives and that is exactly why we should be one of the top non P5 jobs. The fact is though a hot name coach still turning us down is a bad sign for our ad not him. OU outclasses us in every way and that is what Lincoln Riley turned us down for. Not only that but he turned us down to stay a coordinator for leas money.

You would have a point if it was a coach from a lower program with facilities that are not as good as ours. But he turned us down to stay as a coordinator at OU, a school with better facilities, so its our loss not his.

Riley turning down the job had more to with Mayfield coming back next year than it did with our AD.
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RE: UH begins coaching search in wake of Tom Herman's departure
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(12-07-2016 10:01 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  The whole reason for a continuity hire is to capitalize on momentum.

Why are you worried, anyway? You have sources, remember? 03-lmfao


Temple won the American this year on the strength of their defense.

Last i checked temple had a great offense too, has nothing to do with hiring with hiring a dc who will most likely have a very mediocre oc in applewhite. You also have to find a great dc to replace Orlando if we promote him which temple had. Guess you didn't think about that?

Im worries because a continuity hire in Orlando would kill momentum. He is great dc but will most likely not be a great hc. We saw what happened with Levine when we went in house. If we want to keep momentum we need to hire a hot name for hc with experience. Last i checked there has been no competition for orlando at other schools for a head coach position. That in of-itself is not a good sign.

Sources have nothing to do with lol if anything it makes me more worried that UH is going to botch this big time.

How about you check off for the night. Looks like you're going thru another one of your negative Nancy episodes.

Not being negative being honest UH has never had a DC for a head coach its not our style. It would be like navy hiring a spread offense coach. It wouldn't work really well there.

UH hires big name offense guys, and us missing on guys like Lincoln Riley is not a good sign for our ad who has never hired a coach before.

Lmao that's exactly what I'm talking about. There's is no reason to think a defensive minded coach can't win at UH. Your overly negative brain just doesn't let you think rationally sometimes. Defense wins championships. If defense can win in the SEC then it can win in the American. Additionally, as good as our offense has been historically, our best success has come in stretches where the team actually plays defense. Our recent success has been predicated on defense as much as offense. It doesn't matter if you hire an offensive or deffensive head coach, because you need both to win.

Edit: As for Kyle Allen, pretty sure if we keep Applewhite he'll stay. After all he did agree to come here in the first placing thinking he would be playing under his tutelage.

Kyle Allen it's been kept in the loop in case Applewhite moves on... Kyle has a much better chance starting now than before but even more so if a high scoring offensive minded coordinator is brought along with say Orlando or Miles as a head coach.
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UH begins coaching search in wake of Tom Herman's departure
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(12-07-2016 10:13 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 10:01 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  The whole reason for a continuity hire is to capitalize on momentum.

Why are you worried, anyway? You have sources, remember? 03-lmfao


Temple won the American this year on the strength of their defense.

Last i checked temple had a great offense too, has nothing to do with hiring with hiring a dc who will most likely have a very mediocre oc in applewhite. You also have to find a great dc to replace Orlando if we promote him which temple had. Guess you didn't think about that?

Im worries because a continuity hire in Orlando would kill momentum. He is great dc but will most likely not be a great hc. We saw what happened with Levine when we went in house. If we want to keep momentum we need to hire a hot name for hc with experience. Last i checked there has been no competition for orlando at other schools for a head coach position. That in of-itself is not a good sign.

Sources have nothing to do with lol if anything it makes me more worried that UH is going to botch this big time.

How about you check off for the night. Looks like you're going thru another one of your negative Nancy episodes.

Not being negative being honest UH has never had a DC for a head coach its not our style. It would be like navy hiring a spread offense coach. It wouldn't work really well there.

UH hires big name offense guys, and us missing on guys like Lincoln Riley is not a good sign for our ad who has never hired a coach before.

Lmao that's exactly what I'm talking about. There's is no reason to think a defensive minded coach can't win at UH. Your overly negative brain just doesn't let you think rationally sometimes. Defense wins championships. If defense can win in the SEC then it can win in the American. Additionally, as good as our offense has been historically, our best success has come in stretches where the team actually plays defense. Our recent success has been predicated on defense as much as offense. It doesn't matter if you hire an offensive or deffensive head coach, because you need both to win.

Edit: As for Kyle Allen, pretty sure if we keep Applewhite he'll stay. After all he did agree to come here in the first placing thinking he would be playing under his tutelage.

Ya but you keep overlooking the fact that temple had a great offense, and that matt rhule has experience as an oc. Orlando is a pure dc has never coached on the offensive side of the ball.

As for our great years name a year we won the conference on defense only and mediocre offense? We have only ever won the conference with a balance of great offense and defense. Which is what we had last year and what temple had this year.

If we are keeping applewhite as oc do you really think we will be a good team? As it stands most coog fans don't like him and think he is a very mediocre oc. A combination of orlando and applewhite can't exactly be an exciting prospect for kyle allen.

Like you said you need both offense and defense to win. So who do you hire to replace orlando?

My negativity has nothing to do with this opinion. Honestly i still have hope at the prospect we will hire a great coach.
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(12-07-2016 10:10 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Houston's salary at say $$3 million + per season is quite impressive and if the buyout is scaring them away than they can go suck donkey balls as far as I am concerned.

Houston has lots to offer to anyone wanting to coach here... 1. Tremendous salary, 2. Beautiful new football stadium, 3. Outstanding recruting grounds, 4. Fan support and if they do a decent job while coaching here their short time in Houston will definitely be worth their wait = $$$

If say for example the buyout scared Riley away than perhaps he isn't as smart as he thinks he may be... His loss not ours.

No thats our loss. Missing out on a big name like riley because we refuse to budge on buy-out is not good. If coaches are saying no because of it then we need to realize sometimes we have to bite the bullet and do what will help the program even if we dont like it.

You do realize we no longer play at Robertson stadium. You also do realize Houston has tremendously upgraded it's football head coach salary $$$. Oh and let's not forget Houston's much improved strong tv exposure now.

Like I said their loss not ours

All positives and that is exactly why we should be one of the top non P5 jobs. The fact is though a hot name coach still turning us down is a bad sign for our ad not him. OU outclasses us in every way and that is what Lincoln Riley turned us down for. Not only that but he turned us down to stay a coordinator for leas money.

You would have a point if it was a coach from a lower program with facilities that are not as good as ours. But he turned us down to stay as a coordinator at OU, a school with better facilities, so its our loss not his.

Riley turning down the job had more to with Mayfield coming back next year than it did with our AD.

I dont disagree there but UH is the hottest G5 job. We should be able to convince him to come here and take a pay raise shouldn't we?
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(12-07-2016 10:38 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
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(12-07-2016 10:29 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 10:17 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 10:10 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Houston's salary at say $$3 million + per season is quite impressive and if the buyout is scaring them away than they can go suck donkey balls as far as I am concerned.

Houston has lots to offer to anyone wanting to coach here... 1. Tremendous salary, 2. Beautiful new football stadium, 3. Outstanding recruting grounds, 4. Fan support and if they do a decent job while coaching here their short time in Houston will definitely be worth their wait = $$$

If say for example the buyout scared Riley away than perhaps he isn't as smart as he thinks he may be... His loss not ours.

No thats our loss. Missing out on a big name like riley because we refuse to budge on buy-out is not good. If coaches are saying no because of it then we need to realize sometimes we have to bite the bullet and do what will help the program even if we dont like it.

You do realize we no longer play at Robertson stadium. You also do realize Houston has tremendously upgraded it's football head coach salary $$$. Oh and let's not forget Houston's much improved strong tv exposure now.

Like I said their loss not ours

All positives and that is exactly why we should be one of the top non P5 jobs. The fact is though a hot name coach still turning us down is a bad sign for our ad not him. OU outclasses us in every way and that is what Lincoln Riley turned us down for. Not only that but he turned us down to stay a coordinator for leas money.

You would have a point if it was a coach from a lower program with facilities that are not as good as ours. But he turned us down to stay as a coordinator at OU, a school with better facilities, so its our loss not his.

Riley turning down the job had more to with Mayfield coming back next year than it did with our AD.

That's ^^^ correct

But that's not all... Houston isn't been pushed around anymore... I'm hearing.
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(12-07-2016 10:13 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Last i checked temple had a great offense too, has nothing to do with hiring with hiring a dc who will most likely have a very mediocre oc in applewhite. You also have to find a great dc to replace Orlando if we promote him which temple had. Guess you didn't think about that?

Im worries because a continuity hire in Orlando would kill momentum. He is great dc but will most likely not be a great hc. We saw what happened with Levine when we went in house. If we want to keep momentum we need to hire a hot name for hc with experience. Last i checked there has been no competition for orlando at other schools for a head coach position. That in of-itself is not a good sign.

Sources have nothing to do with lol if anything it makes me more worried that UH is going to botch this big time.

How about you check off for the night. Looks like you're going thru another one of your negative Nancy episodes.

Not being negative being honest UH has never had a DC for a head coach its not our style. It would be like navy hiring a spread offense coach. It wouldn't work really well there.

UH hires big name offense guys, and us missing on guys like Lincoln Riley is not a good sign for our ad who has never hired a coach before.

Lmao that's exactly what I'm talking about. There's is no reason to think a defensive minded coach can't win at UH. Your overly negative brain just doesn't let you think rationally sometimes. Defense wins championships. If defense can win in the SEC then it can win in the American. Additionally, as good as our offense has been historically, our best success has come in stretches where the team actually plays defense. Our recent success has been predicated on defense as much as offense. It doesn't matter if you hire an offensive or deffensive head coach, because you need both to win.

Edit: As for Kyle Allen, pretty sure if we keep Applewhite he'll stay. After all he did agree to come here in the first placing thinking he would be playing under his tutelage.

Kyle Allen it's been kept in the loop in case Applewhite moves on... Kyle has a much better chance starting now than before but even more so if a high scoring offensive minded coordinator is brought along with say Orlando or Miles as a head coach.

And who will that offensive coordinator be? I have yet to hear anyone other than applewhite, and him as an oc doesn't really get me excited. Not to mention we will need to find a great DC to replace Orlando.

I dont think people realize just how much in charge of the offense herman really was.
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(12-07-2016 10:17 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  No thats our loss. Missing out on a big name like riley because we refuse to budge on buy-out is not good. If coaches are saying no because of it then we need to realize sometimes we have to bite the bullet and do what will help the program even if we dont like it.

You do realize we no longer play at Robertson stadium. You also do realize Houston has tremendously upgraded it's football head coach salary $$$. Oh and let's not forget Houston's much improved strong tv exposure now.

Like I said their loss not ours

All positives and that is exactly why we should be one of the top non P5 jobs. The fact is though a hot name coach still turning us down is a bad sign for our ad not him. OU outclasses us in every way and that is what Lincoln Riley turned us down for. Not only that but he turned us down to stay a coordinator for leas money.

You would have a point if it was a coach from a lower program with facilities that are not as good as ours. But he turned us down to stay as a coordinator at OU, a school with better facilities, so its our loss not his.

Riley turning down the job had more to with Mayfield coming back next year than it did with our AD.

That's ^^^ correct

But that's not all... Houston isn't been pushed around anymore... I'm hearing.

Im glad we are standing firm for once... But I'm worried we are coating ourselves quality coaches in the process.
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Only reason you hearing Applewhite now is b/c he IS our coordinator currently most all assistants left with Herman.
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(12-07-2016 10:55 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Only reason you hearing Applewhite now is b/c he IS our coordinator currently most all assistants left with Herman.

Still though does the prospect of and applewhite and orlando offense/defense really excite you?

Mack Brown was already hailing Tom Herman as the greatest coach in the country when he was hired before even coaching a game. So i was comfortable with him hiring the right people.

But with orlando there is no buzz at the prospect of him being a hc, so i dont trust him to not just say screw it and keep applewhite.
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(12-07-2016 10:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Ya but you keep overlooking the fact that temple had a great offense, and that matt rhule has experience as an oc. Orlando is a pure dc has never coached on the offensive side of the ball.

As for our great years name a year we won the conference on defense only and mediocre offense? We have only ever won the conference with a balance of great offense and defense. Which is what we had last year and what temple had this year.

If we are keeping applewhite as oc do you really think we will be a good team? As it stands most coog fans don't like him and think he is a very mediocre oc. A combination of orlando and applewhite can't exactly be an exciting prospect for kyle allen.

Like you said you need both offense and defense to win. So who do you hire to replace orlando?

My negativity has nothing to do with this opinion. Honestly i still have hope at the prospect we will hire a great coach.

1979. 11-1. Won the SWC and the Cotton Bowl. Finished 5th in the final AP. Averaged 24.6 points a game. 32nd ranked scoring offense. Defense allowed 11.2 points a game. Ranked 10th. We were good that year because of our defense. Over half our games that year we didn't score over 20 points. The only reason our scoring average was as high as it was because of the Rice game (63-0) and the West Texas A&M game (49-10). The score of the Cotton Bowl that year 17-14, UH over Nebraska.

Defense wins championships kid, GG.
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Does Houston really even needs coach? Heck y'all are so good just let fertitta supervise and reward the players on coconut skrimps. Heck fertitta should just run the university and teach physics in his spare time

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(12-07-2016 11:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Does Houston really even needs coach? Heck y'all are so good just let fertitta supervise and reward the players on coconut skrimps. Heck fertitta should just run the university and teach physics in his spare time

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(12-07-2016 10:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Ya but you keep overlooking the fact that temple had a great offense, and that matt rhule has experience as an oc. Orlando is a pure dc has never coached on the offensive side of the ball.

As for our great years name a year we won the conference on defense only and mediocre offense? We have only ever won the conference with a balance of great offense and defense. Which is what we had last year and what temple had this year.

If we are keeping applewhite as oc do you really think we will be a good team? As it stands most coog fans don't like him and think he is a very mediocre oc. A combination of orlando and applewhite can't exactly be an exciting prospect for kyle allen.

Like you said you need both offense and defense to win. So who do you hire to replace orlando?

My negativity has nothing to do with this opinion. Honestly i still have hope at the prospect we will hire a great coach.

1979. 11-1. Won the SWC and the Cotton Bowl. Finished 5th in the final AP. Averaged 24.6 points a game. 32nd ranked scoring offense. Defense allowed 11.2 points a game. We were good that year because of our defense. Over half our games that year we didn't score over 20 points. The only reason our scoring average was as high as it was because of the Rice game (63-0) and the West Texas A&M game (49-10). The score of the Cotton Bowl that year 17-14, UH over Nebraska.

Defense wins championships kid, GG.

So one championship, 37 years ago... with bill yeoman an oc minded head not a dc. Doesn't exactly disprove my point. Who knows how that season would have gone with anyone but bill yeomen a genius coach who was also an oc.

Where exactly have i said we don't need a good defense? I have said we need an offensive minded hc. Our football is offensive based with a good defense to back it up.

You still haven't addressed the issue that we would have to replace Orlando at dc.
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(12-07-2016 08:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  I don't speak idiot.

Nothing you have said has come true. Coach Orlando is the best man for the job.

You can disagree with that without making up a bunch of lies about boosters.

You don't just speak idiot, you're fluent in every dialect.


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(12-07-2016 08:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  I don't speak idiot.

Nothing you have said has come true. Coach Orlando is the best man for the job.

You can disagree with that without making up a bunch of lies about boosters.

You don't just speak idiot, you're fluent in every dialect.


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(12-07-2016 10:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Ya but you keep overlooking the fact that temple had a great offense, and that matt rhule has experience as an oc. Orlando is a pure dc has never coached on the offensive side of the ball.

As for our great years name a year we won the conference on defense only and mediocre offense? We have only ever won the conference with a balance of great offense and defense. Which is what we had last year and what temple had this year.

If we are keeping applewhite as oc do you really think we will be a good team? As it stands most coog fans don't like him and think he is a very mediocre oc. A combination of orlando and applewhite can't exactly be an exciting prospect for kyle allen.

Like you said you need both offense and defense to win. So who do you hire to replace orlando?

My negativity has nothing to do with this opinion. Honestly i still have hope at the prospect we will hire a great coach.

1979. 11-1. Won the SWC and the Cotton Bowl. Finished 5th in the final AP. Averaged 24.6 points a game. 32nd ranked scoring offense. Defense allowed 11.2 points a game. We were good that year because of our defense. Over half our games that year we didn't score over 20 points. The only reason our scoring average was as high as it was because of the Rice game (63-0) and the West Texas A&M game (49-10). The score of the Cotton Bowl that year 17-14, UH over Nebraska.

Defense wins championships kid, GG.

So one championship, 37 years ago... With bill yeoman oc minded head not a dc. Doesn't exactly disprove my point. Who knows how that season would have gone with anyone but bill yeomen a genius coach who was also an oc.

Where exactly have i said we don't need a good defense? I have said we need an offensive minded hc. Our football is offensive based with a good defense to back it up.

You still haven't addressed the issue that we would have to replace Orlando at dc.

Thats because I was responding to your name a year comment. That also wasn't just some championship, it was the single greatest season in UH history, and it was predicated on defense not offense. Obviously we'll have to replace our DC, but that would happen even if we didn't hire Orlando, so that isn't actually a strong point make. Orlando's defense's have ranked in the top 30 both years he's been here. I ask you this, what was the bigger show of dominance, scoring 36 against Louisville or holding their offense to 10 points?
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(12-07-2016 11:21 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 11:11 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 11:04 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 10:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Ya but you keep overlooking the fact that temple had a great offense, and that matt rhule has experience as an oc. Orlando is a pure dc has never coached on the offensive side of the ball.

As for our great years name a year we won the conference on defense only and mediocre offense? We have only ever won the conference with a balance of great offense and defense. Which is what we had last year and what temple had this year.

If we are keeping applewhite as oc do you really think we will be a good team? As it stands most coog fans don't like him and think he is a very mediocre oc. A combination of orlando and applewhite can't exactly be an exciting prospect for kyle allen.

Like you said you need both offense and defense to win. So who do you hire to replace orlando?

My negativity has nothing to do with this opinion. Honestly i still have hope at the prospect we will hire a great coach.

1979. 11-1. Won the SWC and the Cotton Bowl. Finished 5th in the final AP. Averaged 24.6 points a game. 32nd ranked scoring offense. Defense allowed 11.2 points a game. We were good that year because of our defense. Over half our games that year we didn't score over 20 points. The only reason our scoring average was as high as it was because of the Rice game (63-0) and the West Texas A&M game (49-10). The score of the Cotton Bowl that year 17-14, UH over Nebraska.

Defense wins championships kid, GG.

So one championship, 37 years ago... With bill yeoman oc minded head not a dc. Doesn't exactly disprove my point. Who knows how that season would have gone with anyone but bill yeomen a genius coach who was also an oc.

Where exactly have i said we don't need a good defense? I have said we need an offensive minded hc. Our football is offensive based with a good defense to back it up.

You still haven't addressed the issue that we would have to replace Orlando at dc.

Thats because I was responding to your name a year comment. That also wasn't just some championship, it was the single greatest season in UH history, and it was predicated on defense not offense. Obviously we'll have to replace our DC, but that would happen even if we didn't hire Orlando, so that isn't actually a strong point make. Orlando's defense's have ranked in the top 30 both years he's been here. I ask you this, what was the bigger show of dominance, scoring 36 against Louisville or holding their offense to 10 points?

It was a combination of both. We scored 36 points on a defense that was not bad 11th overall.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22

We then held them to 10 points because of great defense. Like i said a combination of both a good offense and defense. Which is what we get with an oc minded coach who hires a great dc.

As far as that championship i know it was big I didnt say it wasn't. Who is to say if we had had a defensive minded coach that we would have gotten the same result? I would argue we did well because we had a great offensive minded coach along with a great dc.

As far as orlando i think there is a good chance he would stay on as dc now since herman didnt take him but that is besides the point.
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(12-07-2016 11:12 PM)Puckhead48E Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 08:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  I don't speak idiot.

Nothing you have said has come true. Coach Orlando is the best man for the job.

You can disagree with that without making up a bunch of lies about boosters.

You don't just speak idiot, you're fluent in every dialect.


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(12-07-2016 11:41 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 11:12 PM)Puckhead48E Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 08:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  I don't speak idiot.

Nothing you have said has come true. Coach Orlando is the best man for the job.

You can disagree with that without making up a bunch of lies about boosters.

You don't just speak idiot, you're fluent in every dialect.


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Now you just need to work on your reading skills.
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