(08-28-2017 06:46 PM)JmuDukes4Life Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 06:43 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 06:15 PM)JmuDukes4Life Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 05:08 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 04:51 PM)Chappy Wrote:  In the trenches comparison:

Average O-Lineman:
JMU - 6'5", 285
ECU - 6'4", 315

Average D-Lineman:
JMU - 6'3", 257
ECU - 6'4", 271

Obviously the above doesn't account for speed, quickness, skill, etc; but it does show how small JMU is compared to ECU.

Better visual:

ECU O-Lineman: 6'4", 315
JMU D-Lineman: 6'3", 257
Difference: 1" and ~60lbs

JMU O-Lineman: 6'5", 285
ECU D-Lineman: 6'4", 271
Difference: 1" and ~15lbs

JMU starting O-Line is: 6'4", 305
JMU starting D-Line is: 6'4", 257

With having less scholarships, we often take some OL players that still have to put on weight. Until our 2 deep comes out, this is our projected starters

Any JMU fans coming down for the game?

We should have a pretty good crowd, we travel fairly well. My guess would be 2,000 - 3,000

I meant to ask any one on this board coming down for the game. If you travel so well, I would assume you will be coming as well

(08-28-2017 06:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 05:48 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 04:19 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 12:53 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Honey, this conference was formed around 3 schools. And you were one of the last ones to get a full invitation. #Shade

What are the tiers again for our tv deal? I forget which schools are in which bracket. Can't seem to find it anywhere.

Before the additions of Navy, ECU and Tulsa there was an article which broke them down like this.

Group A - UConn, Temple, Houston, Cincy (maybe or 1 other, Memphis?)

Group B - Everybody else (both Florida schools were in here which surprised me)

If anybody from Group A left the tv deal at the time became null and void.

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Group A was just the four you mentioned, no Memphis.

And if anyone from Group A left the TV deal does not automatically become void, that is at the network's discretion.

FWIW, here was the actual breakdown:

(1) If two Group A schools or a Group A and Group B school leave, the contract can be voided by ESPN.

(2) if two Group B schools leave, the contract can be renegotiated if ESPN wants to.

I've never read what the results of that renegotiation must be, i.e., if the renegotiation doesn't produce an agreement, is the remaining contract void? I don't know. I presume it can't be, otherwise this clause is no different from (1).

This was NBC's logic. Espn just matched the nbc offer. Espn never came up with this A and B list.

(08-28-2017 06:50 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 06:46 PM)JmuDukes4Life Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 06:43 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 06:15 PM)JmuDukes4Life Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 05:08 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Better visual:

ECU O-Lineman: 6'4", 315
JMU D-Lineman: 6'3", 257
Difference: 1" and ~60lbs

JMU O-Lineman: 6'5", 285
ECU D-Lineman: 6'4", 271
Difference: 1" and ~15lbs

JMU starting O-Line is: 6'4", 305
JMU starting D-Line is: 6'4", 257

With having less scholarships, we often take some OL players that still have to put on weight. Until our 2 deep comes out, this is our projected starters

Any JMU fans coming down for the game?

We should have a pretty good crowd, we travel fairly well. My guess would be 2,000 - 3,000

I meant to ask any one on this board coming down for the game. If you travel so well, I would assume you will be coming as well

I will be coming down and tailgating in White lot with several ECU friends. I'll be there pretty close to 12:00 with the family.

(08-28-2017 12:37 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 12:30 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Looks like a JMU win to me. mikeinoki is gonna look real cute in his UCONN getup.

You just worry about UCONN notching a single win this season.

I wonder who will have more wins... your football team or your basketball team? #Flagship

That said - GO PIRATES! It has felt like a DECADE since the boys stepped on the field. Can't wait to humble some annoying FCS clowns.

Why are we annoying FCS clowns? Because we're favored and confident? Why in the world wouldn't we be.

(08-28-2017 06:43 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 06:15 PM)JmuDukes4Life Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 05:08 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 04:51 PM)Chappy Wrote:  In the trenches comparison:

Average O-Lineman:
JMU - 6'5", 285
ECU - 6'4", 315

Average D-Lineman:
JMU - 6'3", 257
ECU - 6'4", 271

Obviously the above doesn't account for speed, quickness, skill, etc; but it does show how small JMU is compared to ECU.

Better visual:

ECU O-Lineman: 6'4", 315
JMU D-Lineman: 6'3", 257
Difference: 1" and ~60lbs

JMU O-Lineman: 6'5", 285
ECU D-Lineman: 6'4", 271
Difference: 1" and ~15lbs

JMU starting O-Line is: 6'4", 305
JMU starting D-Line is: 6'4", 257

With having less scholarships, we often take some OL players that still have to put on weight. Until our 2 deep comes out, this is our projected starters

Any JMU fans coming down for the game?

I'm coming down plus 8 and I'd wager we will have 4-5k total.

I like that number even better

Lot's o purple and gold!

(08-28-2017 05:52 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Is this a BIG game?

Yuge

(08-28-2017 08:07 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 05:52 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Is this a BIG game?

Yuge

Big League.

Wait is james madison giving points?

JMU by 17

So Witchita State gets carte blanche to deride all the football schools because the Krook Brothers will only bankroll a basketball team?

Really looking forward to this one! I think most objective observers have this as basically a toss-up. I personally think this will be a really close game with JMU having a great chance to win. I love Schor and the Duke's ability to attack in space. Houston is a helluva coach and will have his team prepared to win. He took The Citadel into Columbia, SC two years ago and left with a win over the Gamecocks.

ECU better get ready for the streamers the Duke fans will bring!

(08-28-2017 06:15 PM)JmuDukes4Life Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 05:08 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 04:51 PM)Chappy Wrote:  In the trenches comparison:

Average O-Lineman:
JMU - 6'5", 285
ECU - 6'4", 315

Average D-Lineman:
JMU - 6'3", 257
ECU - 6'4", 271

Obviously the above doesn't account for speed, quickness, skill, etc; but it does show how small JMU is compared to ECU.

Better visual:

ECU O-Lineman: 6'4", 315
JMU D-Lineman: 6'3", 257
Difference: 1" and ~60lbs

JMU O-Lineman: 6'5", 285
ECU D-Lineman: 6'4", 271
Difference: 1" and ~15lbs

JMU starting O-Line is: 6'4", 305
JMU starting D-Line is: 6'4", 257

With having less scholarships, we often take some OL players that still have to put on weight. Until our 2 deep comes out, this is our projected starters

Stephen Igoe's projected ECU lineup with stats from ECU's 2017 Football Roster:

LT #1 D'Ante Smith (So. 6'4" 336) #2 Messiah Rice (Jr. 6'5" 294)
LG #1 Cortez Herrin (So. 6'3" 346) #2 Des Barmore (Jr. 6'6" 333)
C #1 Garrett McGhin (Jr. 6'6" 327) #2 Branden Pena (Jr. 6'2" 286)
RG #1 Austin Lee (RS-Fr. 6'1" 287) #2 Dqmarcus Shaw (Jr. 6'4" 316)
RT #1 Brandon Smith (Sr. 6'8" 327) #2 Justin Sandifer (Sr. 6'5" 295)

DE #1 Kendall Futrell (So. 6'4" 230) #2 Taijh Alston (Fr. 6'4" 212) #3 Chandon Hickerson (Fr. 6'5" 275)
DT #1 Alex Turner (So. 6'2" 287) #2 Jalen Price (So. 6'2" 299) #3 Tyree Owens (Jr. 6'4" 285) OR Raequan Purvis (Fr. 6'2" 278)
DT #1 Demage Bailey (Sr. 6'5" 294) #2 Brandon Henderson (Jr. 6'5" 275) #3 Mike Myers (Sr. 6'0" 283) OR Shaun James (Jr. 6'4" 274)
DE #1 Kiante Anderson (Sr. 6'4" 243) #2 Gaelin Elmore (Grad. 6'6" 275) #3 Randall Anderson (Sr. 6'4" 257)

ECU Starting O-Line 6'4" 325
ECU Starting D-Line 6'4" 264

ECU's D has some nice size backups. Expect a lot of rotation. Let's hope the O-Line is vastly improved this year.

(08-28-2017 08:33 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Wait is james madison giving points?

5 dimes had us as a 3.5 favorite to start, then we went to 5.5, then they pulled it. Massey has us a touchdown favorite.

When it is reposted, ECU will be the favorite

(08-28-2017 08:45 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  Really looking forward to this one! I think most objective observers have this as basically a toss-up. I personally think this will be a really close game with JMU having a great chance to win. I love Schor and the Duke's ability to attack in space. Houston is a helluva coach and will have his team prepared to win. He took The Citadel into Columbia, SC two years ago and left with a win over the Gamecocks.

ECU better get ready for the streamers the Duke fans will bring!

Streamers?

(08-28-2017 09:03 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 08:33 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Wait is james madison giving points?

5 dimes had us as a 3.5 favorite to start, then we went to 5.5, then they pulled it. Massey has us a touchdown favorite.

If only that meant you would win.

JMU is no slouch. But I really think we'll see an ECU closer to the one that beat NCSTATE and almost beat South Carolina last year. ECU takes it by 2 scores.

The ECU fans definitely remind me of the Iowa and KSTate fans before NDSU took them out. I think both of those FBS teams are better than this ECU team assuming the Pirates are improved. This Dukes team is on par or perhaps better than last year's NDSU team heading into game 1. The Bison team that beat K-State was their best title team. This is going to be really fun!

(08-28-2017 08:45 PM)2Buck Wrote:  So Witchita State gets carte blanche to deride all the football schools because the Krook Brothers will only bankroll a basketball team?

Bro, they haven't won a game in 30 years, who takes an 0 for 30 years fans seriously. I barely notice them over at the kiddie table anymore. . .