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Chip Kelly sweepstakes
Which SEC school will hire Chip Kelly? Texas A&M, LSU, Auburn or Tennessee?
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
A&M has been on him for months
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
If Chip is still tight with Uncle Phil, he might be inclined toward a Nike-affiliated program.
Tennessee is with Nike. Are their boosters ready to pay Butch's buyout?
LSU is with Nike, but will give Eddie O more than one year.
Ole Miss is also with Nike, but a program about to get whacked by the NCAA can't hire a guy who has already been hit with a show-cause penalty. (The same might also be true for North Carolina.)
Auburn is with Under Armour.
A&M is with Adidas.
Other schools that might be in the market: UCLA is with Under Armour. Nebraska is with Adidas, and so is Arizona State.
(This post was last modified: 09-18-2017 02:44 PM by Wedge.)
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
I could see Chip at Nebraska.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-18-2017 04:40 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: I could see Chip at Nebraska.
Nebraska might be a dead end. They have not been relevant since joining the B10.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
I think A&M will go after him.
Kelly would have the authority he wanted at Tennessee or Auburn, as well as at A&M, but I would rather Auburn buyout Mullen. He's already proven he can win with less in the SEC.
And he plays our kind of football.
Ole Miss needs Les Miles. Rebuilding the program will be a good position to take until retirement.
Coach O will be at L.S.U. at least another 2 years beyond this one. He got his butt handed to him by the only school in the SEC that Alabama had better be worried about this year. Fitzgerald is the real deal!
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-18-2017 05:26 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: (09-18-2017 04:40 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: I could see Chip at Nebraska.
Nebraska might be a dead end. They have not been relevant since joining the B10.
A guy like Kelly could turn Nebraska completely around. Look what he did at Oregon. Nebraskas got the historical cache and being THE state university. He's the type of coach who could make a Nebraska or ND relevant again.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
Kelly is not a very good coach. We saw that at the 49ers, and I think every Eagles follower can tell you the same thing. He had a gimmick offense which defenses have caught up to.
His management and people skills are poor. And he is awful in both one on one and speaking (so much for a donor boost). Whatever school hires him is in for a big fail.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-18-2017 04:40 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: I could see Chip at Nebraska.
Interesting, very interesting.
Question would be does Nebraska roll the dice on a retread coach like Kelly or do they go in the direction of a hot assistant like Aranda or Venables? Maybe they pull a Wisconsin and hire a head coach who's an alum Like Scott Frost.
I personally would love to see what a Chip Kelly offense would do in the B1G.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-18-2017 08:00 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (09-18-2017 04:40 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: I could see Chip at Nebraska.
Interesting, very interesting.
Question would be does Nebraska roll the dice on a retread coach like Kelly or do they go in the direction of a hot assistant like Aranda or Venables? Maybe they pull a Wisconsin and hire a head coach who's an alum Like Scott Frost.
I personally would love to see what a Chip Kelly offense would do in the B1G.
You'll get that chance this weekend.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
I don't see Chip as an SEC type coach.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-18-2017 07:16 PM)Stugray2 Wrote: Kelly is not a very good coach. We saw that at the 49ers, and I think every Eagles follower can tell you the same thing. He had a gimmick offense which defenses have caught up to.
His management and people skills are poor. And he is awful in both one on one and speaking (so much for a donor boost). Whatever school hires him is in for a big fail.
Because he failed in the NFL does not mean he is a bad college coach. Lots of good college coaches could not cut it in the NFL. The guy was at Oregon for 5 years and won no less than 11 games every season.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-18-2017 06:52 PM)cuseroc Wrote: (09-18-2017 05:26 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: (09-18-2017 04:40 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: I could see Chip at Nebraska.
Nebraska might be a dead end. They have not been relevant since joining the B10.
A guy like Kelly could turn Nebraska completely around. Look what he did at Oregon. Nebraskas got the historical cache and being THE state university. He's the type of coach who could make a Nebraska or ND relevant again.
Nebraska might have to settle for someone "on the rebound" like Chip, because none of today's hottest candidates will go there.
For most of their glory years the Huskers were playing in a conference that only had one other consistently competitive team.
This is the definition of a two-team conference: From 1963-1995, 33 seasons, there were only two seasons in which Nebraska or Oklahoma didn't win or share the Big 8 football title. There were four other seasons in which NU or OU shared the title with another team. And there were 27 seasons out of 33 in which the Big 8 was won by NU, or OU, or the two of them tied for first.
The Huskers' last conference title was in the second year of the Big 12 (1997 season). Their cache is "historical" as in, before most of today's college football players were born.
Nebraska is also a program that had its greatest success when academic entrance standards were much lower, and when they effectively had over 120 players on scholarship because they exploited the fact that, at the time, there were no rules restricting the financial aid that could be given to walk-ons. Under today's rules, they haven't even proven that they can keep up with Wisconsin, which would just be the bare minimum to keep the boosters off your back at Nebraska.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-18-2017 08:21 PM)Wedge Wrote: (09-18-2017 06:52 PM)cuseroc Wrote: (09-18-2017 05:26 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: (09-18-2017 04:40 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: I could see Chip at Nebraska.
Nebraska might be a dead end. They have not been relevant since joining the B10.
A guy like Kelly could turn Nebraska completely around. Look what he did at Oregon. Nebraskas got the historical cache and being THE state university. He's the type of coach who could make a Nebraska or ND relevant again.
Nebraska might have to settle for someone "on the rebound" like Chip, because none of today's hottest candidates will go there.
For most of their glory years the Huskers were playing in a conference that only had one other consistently competitive team.
This is the definition of a two-team conference: From 1963-1995, 33 seasons, there were only two seasons in which Nebraska or Oklahoma didn't win or share the Big 8 football title. There were four other seasons in which NU or OU shared the title with another team. And there were 27 seasons out of 33 in which the Big 8 was won by NU, or OU, or the two of them tied for first.
The Huskers' last conference title was in the second year of the Big 12 (1997 season). Their cache is "historical" as in, before most of today's college football players were born.
Nebraska is also a program that had its greatest success when academic entrance standards were much lower, and when they effectively had over 120 players on scholarship because they exploited the fact that, at the time, there were no rules restricting the financial aid that could be given to walk-ons. Under today's rules, they haven't even proven that they can keep up with Wisconsin, which would just be the bare minimum to keep the boosters off your back at Nebraska.
Fair points.
On the other hand, the number of head coaching positions in top tier conferences is limited. Not everyone is willing to wait for their "dream job" and in the mean time turn down solid opportunities.
Say what you will about Nebraska, but the program has a storied history and a loyal & rabid fan base. Rebuild this team to it's former glory and they'll build statues in your honor. There are much worse situations if you're a head coach.
BTW, in Nebraska's defense, 3/4 of the schools in the P5 conferences can't "keep up" with Wisconsin. Comparing yourself to Wisconsin is actually a relatively high bar.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-18-2017 07:16 PM)Stugray2 Wrote: Kelly is not a very good coach. We saw that at the 49ers, and I think every Eagles follower can tell you the same thing. He had a gimmick offense which defenses have caught up to.
His management and people skills are poor. And he is awful in both one on one and speaking (so much for a donor boost). Whatever school hires him is in for a big fail.
NFL =/= NCAA
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
My thought of a Chip Kelly/Nebraska pairing comes from both side's mutual current position of being viewed once elite coaches/programs, but now have seemingly been relegated to after thoughts will Kelly's failure in the NFL, and Nebraska's subpar adjustment to the B1G.
Make no mistake, while Nebraska is not currently what it used to be, it is still one of the stronger brands in national college football. They have the resources, tradition, prestige and conference affiliation to be a big time power program again if under the right leadership. Under Bo Pelini, Nebraska was consistently right there in the national conversation. Under Bill Callahan and Mike Riley - not so much.
One could even argue that the ability to win the B1G West (Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue) is a much smoother ride than going through the SEC West (Alabama, Auburn, MSU, Ole Miss, LSU and Arkansas).
It may be a long shot, but I think Kelly would do very well at Nebraska, and he would be a perfect fit there. If that wouldn't materialize, then Nebraska could go after Frost. If Bielema gets canned at Arkansas after this year, he could be another candidate at Nebraska as well.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-19-2017 06:44 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (09-18-2017 08:21 PM)Wedge Wrote: (09-18-2017 06:52 PM)cuseroc Wrote: (09-18-2017 05:26 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: (09-18-2017 04:40 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: I could see Chip at Nebraska.
Nebraska might be a dead end. They have not been relevant since joining the B10.
A guy like Kelly could turn Nebraska completely around. Look what he did at Oregon. Nebraskas got the historical cache and being THE state university. He's the type of coach who could make a Nebraska or ND relevant again.
Nebraska might have to settle for someone "on the rebound" like Chip, because none of today's hottest candidates will go there.
For most of their glory years the Huskers were playing in a conference that only had one other consistently competitive team.
This is the definition of a two-team conference: From 1963-1995, 33 seasons, there were only two seasons in which Nebraska or Oklahoma didn't win or share the Big 8 football title. There were four other seasons in which NU or OU shared the title with another team. And there were 27 seasons out of 33 in which the Big 8 was won by NU, or OU, or the two of them tied for first.
The Huskers' last conference title was in the second year of the Big 12 (1997 season). Their cache is "historical" as in, before most of today's college football players were born.
Nebraska is also a program that had its greatest success when academic entrance standards were much lower, and when they effectively had over 120 players on scholarship because they exploited the fact that, at the time, there were no rules restricting the financial aid that could be given to walk-ons. Under today's rules, they haven't even proven that they can keep up with Wisconsin, which would just be the bare minimum to keep the boosters off your back at Nebraska.
Fair points.
On the other hand, the number of head coaching positions in top tier conferences is limited. Not everyone is willing to wait for their "dream job" and in the mean time turn down solid opportunities.
Say what you will about Nebraska, but the program has a storied history and a loyal & rabid fan base. Rebuild this team to it's former glory and they'll build statues in your honor. There are much worse situations if you're a head coach.
BTW, in Nebraska's defense, 3/4 of the schools in the P5 conferences can't "keep up" with Wisconsin. Comparing yourself to Wisconsin is actually a relatively high bar.
This is true, but if you're trying to live up to Devaney and Osborne's records, you have to start by keeping up with Wisconsin. You can't keep those boosters happy just by beating Northwestern and Minnesota most of the time.
Someone will take a crack at Nebraska, but pretty much every head coach on the "A list" will pass. It's a lot like UCLA basketball in that regard. Nebraska will either hire a former player from the glory days, or the football equivalent of Steve Alford.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-19-2017 10:58 AM)Wedge Wrote: (09-19-2017 06:44 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (09-18-2017 08:21 PM)Wedge Wrote: (09-18-2017 06:52 PM)cuseroc Wrote: (09-18-2017 05:26 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: Nebraska might be a dead end. They have not been relevant since joining the B10.
A guy like Kelly could turn Nebraska completely around. Look what he did at Oregon. Nebraskas got the historical cache and being THE state university. He's the type of coach who could make a Nebraska or ND relevant again.
Nebraska might have to settle for someone "on the rebound" like Chip, because none of today's hottest candidates will go there.
For most of their glory years the Huskers were playing in a conference that only had one other consistently competitive team.
This is the definition of a two-team conference: From 1963-1995, 33 seasons, there were only two seasons in which Nebraska or Oklahoma didn't win or share the Big 8 football title. There were four other seasons in which NU or OU shared the title with another team. And there were 27 seasons out of 33 in which the Big 8 was won by NU, or OU, or the two of them tied for first.
The Huskers' last conference title was in the second year of the Big 12 (1997 season). Their cache is "historical" as in, before most of today's college football players were born.
Nebraska is also a program that had its greatest success when academic entrance standards were much lower, and when they effectively had over 120 players on scholarship because they exploited the fact that, at the time, there were no rules restricting the financial aid that could be given to walk-ons. Under today's rules, they haven't even proven that they can keep up with Wisconsin, which would just be the bare minimum to keep the boosters off your back at Nebraska.
Fair points.
On the other hand, the number of head coaching positions in top tier conferences is limited. Not everyone is willing to wait for their "dream job" and in the mean time turn down solid opportunities.
Say what you will about Nebraska, but the program has a storied history and a loyal & rabid fan base. Rebuild this team to it's former glory and they'll build statues in your honor. There are much worse situations if you're a head coach.
BTW, in Nebraska's defense, 3/4 of the schools in the P5 conferences can't "keep up" with Wisconsin. Comparing yourself to Wisconsin is actually a relatively high bar.
This is true, but if you're trying to live up to Devaney and Osborne's records, you have to start by keeping up with Wisconsin. You can't keep those boosters happy just by beating Northwestern and Minnesota most of the time.
Someone will take a crack at Nebraska, but pretty much every head coach on the "A list" will pass. It's a lot like UCLA basketball in that regard. Nebraska will either hire a former player from the glory days, or the football equivalent of Steve Alford.
OUCH!
Speaking of that.
I hear Art Briles is looking for work.....
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
Nebraska pays Mike Riley less than what Purdue pays the former WKU coach.
I'd love to see Chip at Nebraska but they will need to spend a lot more.
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RE: Chip Kelly sweepstakes
(09-18-2017 08:18 PM)cuseroc Wrote: (09-18-2017 07:16 PM)Stugray2 Wrote: Kelly is not a very good coach. We saw that at the 49ers, and I think every Eagles follower can tell you the same thing. He had a gimmick offense which defenses have caught up to.
His management and people skills are poor. And he is awful in both one on one and speaking (so much for a donor boost). Whatever school hires him is in for a big fail.
Because he failed in the NFL does not mean he is a bad college coach. Lots of good college coaches could not cut it in the NFL. The guy was at Oregon for 5 years and won no less than 11 games every season.
With a gimmick offense - but that may no longer work. He failed in the NFL for poor position coaching, poor player development, and general lack of adaptability. The same limitations are present.
His poor people skills were compensated by the support of Oregon and Phil Knight's largess. That level of support may not be present at another school, nor the tolerance for his arrogant treatment of people.
The odds are he fails in college like he did in the Pros. He has been out of college for several years, and the game has changed. He is not a fundamentals coach, nor a good talent evaluator, skills that allow somebody like Jim Harbaugh (despite a pedestrian scheme) to be able to translate from college to pro and back again.
The school that picks up Kelly loses by doing so.
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