(10-04-2017 08:47 AM)glacier_dropsy Wrote: Now we are just going in circles. A hand gun is not a shotgun is not a long rifle is not an uzi is not a gun from a video game but may be the gun in the hands of someone invading my/your house. Odds are, they are not coming at you with a long rifle, unless you are Jason Bateman from Ozark.
I'm going back to the top, voters will take some of your guns away in the near time. Hunting rifles and shotguns and CCW will be safe for the foreseeable future. ***** all you want
This voter wants to take away your 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th amendment rights. B**ch all you want, I'm going to get my way eventually.
(10-04-2017 12:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote: Where did this dude get his gun training? His family says he was not a gun guy. But events say otherwise.
So far no firing range video, nobody saying he frequented the same range they go to.
Normally we see someone coming forward.
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From what I've read we were somewhat lucky he had no training. From his of choice weapons, bump stock, and ammo it was pretty much amateur hour. He just meticulously planned it out.
(10-04-2017 08:47 AM)glacier_dropsy Wrote: Now we are just going in circles. A hand gun is not a shotgun is not a long rifle is not an uzi is not a gun from a video game but may be the gun in the hands of someone invading my/your house. Odds are, they are not coming at you with a long rifle, unless you are Jason Bateman from Ozark.
I'm going back to the top, voters will take some of your guns away in the near time. Hunting rifles and shotguns and CCW will be safe for the foreseeable future. ***** all you want
This voter wants to take away your 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th amendment rights. B**ch all you want, I'm going to get my way eventually.
(10-04-2017 12:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote: Where did this dude get his gun training? His family says he was not a gun guy. But events say otherwise.
So far no firing range video, nobody saying he frequented the same range they go to.
Normally we see someone coming forward.
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From what I've read we were somewhat lucky he had no training. From his of choice weapons, bump stock, and ammo it was pretty much amateur hour. He just meticulously planned it out.
So a complete amateur can buy some guns and inflict this much damage and we still don't want to change any laws?
(10-04-2017 12:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote: Where did this dude get his gun training? His family says he was not a gun guy. But events say otherwise.
So far no firing range video, nobody saying he frequented the same range they go to.
Normally we see someone coming forward.
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From what I've read we were somewhat lucky he had no training. From his of choice weapons, bump stock, and ammo it was pretty much amateur hour. He just meticulously planned it out.
So a complete amateur can buy some guns and inflict this much damage and we still don't want to change any laws?
a complete amateur can kill whenever and whoever he chooses... and murder is already illegal. how can banning or changing the current laws would prevent future mass killings?
(10-04-2017 12:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote: Where did this dude get his gun training? His family says he was not a gun guy. But events say otherwise.
So far no firing range video, nobody saying he frequented the same range they go to.
Normally we see someone coming forward.
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From what I've read we were somewhat lucky he had no training. From his of choice weapons, bump stock, and ammo it was pretty much amateur hour. He just meticulously planned it out.
So a complete amateur can buy some guns and inflict this much damage and we still don't want to change any laws?
a complete amateur can kill whenever and whoever he chooses... and murder is already illegal. how can banning or changing the current laws would prevent future mass killings?
One time these guys took some box cutters and got on planes and killed thousands. We didn't ban box cutters or planes but we changed a lot of laws in one month.
(10-04-2017 12:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote: Where did this dude get his gun training? His family says he was not a gun guy. But events say otherwise.
So far no firing range video, nobody saying he frequented the same range they go to.
Normally we see someone coming forward.
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From what I've read we were somewhat lucky he had no training. From his of choice weapons, bump stock, and ammo it was pretty much amateur hour. He just meticulously planned it out.
So a complete amateur can buy some guns and inflict this much damage and we still don't want to change any laws?
a complete amateur can kill whenever and whoever he chooses... and murder is already illegal. how can banning or changing the current laws would prevent future mass killings?
One time these guys took some box cutters and got on planes and killed thousands. We didn't ban box cutters or planes but we changed a lot of laws in one month.
Why is that suddenly out of the question now?
you don't have a constitutional right to take a box cutter on an airplane.
(10-04-2017 12:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote: Where did this dude get his gun training? His family says he was not a gun guy. But events say otherwise.
So far no firing range video, nobody saying he frequented the same range they go to.
Normally we see someone coming forward.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk
From what I've read we were somewhat lucky he had no training. From his of choice weapons, bump stock, and ammo it was pretty much amateur hour. He just meticulously planned it out.
So a complete amateur can buy some guns and inflict this much damage and we still don't want to change any laws?
a complete amateur can kill whenever and whoever he chooses... and murder is already illegal. how can banning or changing the current laws would prevent future mass killings?
One time these guys took some box cutters and got on planes and killed thousands. We didn't ban box cutters or planes but we changed a lot of laws in one month.
Why is that suddenly out of the question now?
It's looking like guns and drug prescriptions are something we can and should consider.
We also need gun escrow arrangements in order to allow for temporary custody of guns to be passed to a safe keeper other than the government.
So, if a guy has some mental issues, he can get some help. Have his guns placed in escrow for a while. Nothing is triggered in the legal system. When he gets better, he can get his guns back.
The reason I am pushing for gun escrow is two-fold. One, a lot of weapons in police custody disappear. They simply don't do well holding guns. Two, guns held by an escrow company could be sold if desired. You can't sell guns confiscated by the police.
This is something that could be done and I don't think the NRA would oppose it.
(10-04-2017 12:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote: Where did this dude get his gun training? His family says he was not a gun guy. But events say otherwise.
So far no firing range video, nobody saying he frequented the same range they go to.
Normally we see someone coming forward.
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From what I've read we were somewhat lucky he had no training. From his of choice weapons, bump stock, and ammo it was pretty much amateur hour. He just meticulously planned it out.
So a complete amateur can buy some guns and inflict this much damage and we still don't want to change any laws?
a complete amateur can kill whenever and whoever he chooses... and murder is already illegal. how can banning or changing the current laws would prevent future mass killings?
One time these guys took some box cutters and got on planes and killed thousands. We didn't ban box cutters or planes but we changed a lot of laws in one month.
(10-04-2017 12:26 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote: From what I've read we were somewhat lucky he had no training. From his of choice weapons, bump stock, and ammo it was pretty much amateur hour. He just meticulously planned it out.
So a complete amateur can buy some guns and inflict this much damage and we still don't want to change any laws?
a complete amateur can kill whenever and whoever he chooses... and murder is already illegal. how can banning or changing the current laws would prevent future mass killings?
One time these guys took some box cutters and got on planes and killed thousands. We didn't ban box cutters or planes but we changed a lot of laws in one month.
Why is that suddenly out of the question now?
Fitbud advocating for Patriot Act II here.
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No I am not. Personally, I don't think anything is going to happen at all. I've already given up on expecting anything to happen especially from this administration. Once again, many point to laws and pacts written on paper rather than real living, breathing human beings.
Yesterday I heard a politician say if Trump changes any laws, he loses his base.
Think about that for a moment. This man didn't even consider any lives that might be saves by whatever law Trump might sign. All he cared about was the next election.
As long as America has that mentality, things will only get worse.
(10-04-2017 12:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote: Where did this dude get his gun training? His family says he was not a gun guy. But events say otherwise.
So far no firing range video, nobody saying he frequented the same range they go to.
Normally we see someone coming forward.
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From what I've read we were somewhat lucky he had no training. From his of choice weapons, bump stock, and ammo it was pretty much amateur hour. He just meticulously planned it out.
So a complete amateur can buy some guns and inflict this much damage and we still don't want to change any laws?
1 guy did this (statistically zero) and you want to enact ineffective laws.
BTW, if 1/4 of 1 percent of U.S. citizens were doing this that would be 815,000 people.
We're talking 1. One.
You want to pass laws that impact every single American because of 1 guy.
OK, add in the others over the past few years. Now were talking, what, 10, 20 guys?
Statistically ZERO.
The ONLY motive behind this kind of reaction is to get rid of guns and effectively slice the Constitution.
Copy of Paddock's room service receipt for room 32135 for TWO on 9/27, even though he didn't check into 32135 until Thursday, 9/28.
Quote:Stephen Craig Paddock, the gunman behind the worst mass shooting in modern US history, checked into his Las Vegas hotel room on Thursday, three days before opening fire on a crowd of 22,000 from his hotel window.
(10-04-2017 12:12 PM)ark30inf Wrote: Where did this dude get his gun training? His family says he was not a gun guy. But events say otherwise.
So far no firing range video, nobody saying he frequented the same range they go to.
Normally we see someone coming forward.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk
From what I've read we were somewhat lucky he had no training. From his of choice weapons, bump stock, and ammo it was pretty much amateur hour. He just meticulously planned it out.
So a complete amateur can buy some guns and inflict this much damage and we still don't want to change any laws?
1 guy did this (statistically zero) and you want to enact ineffective laws.
BTW, if 1/4 of 1 percent of U.S. citizens were doing this that would be 815,000 people.
We're talking 1. One.
You want to pass laws that impact every single American because of 1 guy.
OK, add in the others over the past few years. Now were talking, what, 10, 20 guys?
Statistically ZERO.
The ONLY motive behind this kind of reaction is to get rid of guns and effectively slice the Constitution.
What laws did I suggest we inact?
What guns did I say we need to get rid of?
Quit spouting the talking points and lets have a real discussion about whether or not we can do something to change what is happening to our country.
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