(11-15-2017 11:58 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Roy Moore should run, then resign, and the Gov can appoint another Republican.

See, everyone can be a winner in this!

Thats why the hit job came when it did. Writiins have been coming in for a while.

Governor needs to cancel but won't because she wants to be re-elected and Roy might run against her. Really deeply woven

(11-15-2017 11:39 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Sorry, Bill Clinton has no relevance whatsoever to the topic at hand....OT/whataboutism is what your post is.

Did you, or did you not imply that because moore was a "clown" then we should have seen this alledged sexual misconduct coming?

And once again, eat ****, you're not going to tell me what I can / cannot talk about on a thread.

(11-15-2017 12:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 11:58 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Roy Moore should run, then resign, and the Gov can appoint another Republican.

See, everyone can be a winner in this!

Thats why the hit job came when it did. Writiins have been coming in for a while.

Governors needs to cancel but won't because she wants to be re-elected and Roy might run against her. Really deeply woven

Here's my view

1) The Dems did not nominate Roy Moore
2) There were plenty of reasons to oppose Moore in the primary, from charity self dealing, to Fred Phelps level homophobia, to incompetent management of the courts when he was Chief Justice, to outrageous rulings, to racism, etc, etc., etc.
3) There was no guarantee that these charges would 'stick', given the amount of stuff that Moore's supporters are willing to overlook
4) The current sexual harassment allegations hit liberal figures first

But sure, its possible the Dems did set up the timing, but the GOP did everything possible to make this happen.

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Governor Ivey can't cancel the election at this point. There will be an election on December 12. Either Roy will win, a write in will, or Doug Jones will.

(11-15-2017 12:28 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 11:39 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Sorry, Bill Clinton has no relevance whatsoever to the topic at hand....OT/whataboutism is what your post is.

Did you, or did you not imply that because moore was a "clown" then we should have seen this alledged sexual misconduct coming?

And once again, eat ****, you're not going to tell me what I can / cannot talk about on a thread.

Yes I actually called Moore a clown. I'm under no obligation to list others that might, or might not be, clowns. They have zero relevance to the Alabama Special Election.

You can go on with your Clinton turrets until youre blue in the face for all I care. But I'm calling it out for what it is...

Off topic and whataboutism.

(11-15-2017 12:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 12:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 11:58 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Roy Moore should run, then resign, and the Gov can appoint another Republican.

See, everyone can be a winner in this!

Thats why the hit job came when it did. Writiins have been coming in for a while.

Governors needs to cancel but won't because she wants to be re-elected and Roy might run against her. Really deeply woven

Here's my view

1) The Dems did not nominate Roy Moore
2) There were plenty of reasons to oppose Moore in the primary, from charity self dealing, to Fred Phelps level homophobia, to incompetent management of the courts when he was Chief Justice, to outrageous rulings, to racism, etc, etc., etc.
3) There was no guarantee that these charges would 'stick', given the amount of stuff that Moore's supporters are willing to overlook
4) The current sexual harassment allegations hit liberal figures first

But sure, its possible the Dems did set up the timing, but the GOP did everything possible to make this happen.

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Governor Ivey can't cancel the election at this point. There will be an election on December 12. Either Roy will win, a write in will, or Doug Jones will.

She can postpone it as long as she wants.

(11-15-2017 12:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yes I actually called Moore a clown. I'm under no obligation to list others that might, or might not be, clowns.

You also lack the authority to prevent others from pointing out that Clown is not the same as "sexual perv" and composed (Clinton) is not the same as "safe around women and girls"

Don't get pissy because your assertion was dead wrong.

Joe Biden is straight up creepy around girls, his nickname is "hands". Would you say it was a mistake to nominate him as VP?

Quote:You can go on with your Clinton turrets until youre blue in the face for all I care. But I'm calling it out for what it is...

Off topic and whataboutism.

Pointing out your non-sequiter with a legit example is not "whataboutism"... A word, by the way , you're going to abuse more than "homophobic" to the point where it loses all meaning.

(11-15-2017 12:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 12:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 12:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 11:58 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Roy Moore should run, then resign, and the Gov can appoint another Republican.

See, everyone can be a winner in this!

Thats why the hit job came when it did. Writiins have been coming in for a while.

Governors needs to cancel but won't because she wants to be re-elected and Roy might run against her. Really deeply woven

Here's my view

1) The Dems did not nominate Roy Moore
2) There were plenty of reasons to oppose Moore in the primary, from charity self dealing, to Fred Phelps level homophobia, to incompetent management of the courts when he was Chief Justice, to outrageous rulings, to racism, etc, etc., etc.
3) There was no guarantee that these charges would 'stick', given the amount of stuff that Moore's supporters are willing to overlook
4) The current sexual harassment allegations hit liberal figures first

But sure, its possible the Dems did set up the timing, but the GOP did everything possible to make this happen.

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Governor Ivey can't cancel the election at this point. There will be an election on December 12. Either Roy will win, a write in will, or Doug Jones will.

She can postpone it as long as she wants.

LOL. If you think Governor Ivey wants to extend this circus, you're nuts. Sure she can extend it. But the primary has already happened. Roy Moore is the GOP nominee until he withdraws or is duly removed by the GOP Republican executive committee of Alabama (which is unlikely at this point). Which he has shown no intent of doing. What's the point of extending the election? What does that get her?

(11-15-2017 12:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 12:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 12:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 12:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 11:58 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Roy Moore should run, then resign, and the Gov can appoint another Republican.

See, everyone can be a winner in this!

Thats why the hit job came when it did. Writiins have been coming in for a while.

Governors needs to cancel but won't because she wants to be re-elected and Roy might run against her. Really deeply woven

Here's my view

1) The Dems did not nominate Roy Moore
2) There were plenty of reasons to oppose Moore in the primary, from charity self dealing, to Fred Phelps level homophobia, to incompetent management of the courts when he was Chief Justice, to outrageous rulings, to racism, etc, etc., etc.
3) There was no guarantee that these charges would 'stick', given the amount of stuff that Moore's supporters are willing to overlook
4) The current sexual harassment allegations hit liberal figures first

But sure, its possible the Dems did set up the timing, but the GOP did everything possible to make this happen.

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Governor Ivey can't cancel the election at this point. There will be an election on December 12. Either Roy will win, a write in will, or Doug Jones will.

She can postpone it as long as she wants.

LOL. If you think Governor Ivey wants to extend this circus, you're nuts. Sure she can extend it. But the primary has already happened. Roy Moore is the GOP nominee until he withdraws or is duly removed by the GOP Republican executive committee of Alabama (which is unlikely at this point). Which he has shown no intent of doing. What's the point of extending the election? What does that get her?

Extending this election is something the Republican swamp in DC would do. To ivey's credit, she's not the swamp. It's good to see that those who claim to hate the swamp, actually approve of their tactics.

(11-15-2017 01:03 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 12:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 12:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 12:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 12:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Thats why the hit job came when it did. Writiins have been coming in for a while.

Governors needs to cancel but won't because she wants to be re-elected and Roy might run against her. Really deeply woven

Here's my view

1) The Dems did not nominate Roy Moore
2) There were plenty of reasons to oppose Moore in the primary, from charity self dealing, to Fred Phelps level homophobia, to incompetent management of the courts when he was Chief Justice, to outrageous rulings, to racism, etc, etc., etc.
3) There was no guarantee that these charges would 'stick', given the amount of stuff that Moore's supporters are willing to overlook
4) The current sexual harassment allegations hit liberal figures first

But sure, its possible the Dems did set up the timing, but the GOP did everything possible to make this happen.

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Governor Ivey can't cancel the election at this point. There will be an election on December 12. Either Roy will win, a write in will, or Doug Jones will.

She can postpone it as long as she wants.

LOL. If you think Governor Ivey wants to extend this circus, you're nuts. Sure she can extend it. But the primary has already happened. Roy Moore is the GOP nominee until he withdraws or is duly removed by the GOP Republican executive committee of Alabama (which is unlikely at this point). Which he has shown no intent of doing. What's the point of extending the election? What does that get her?

Extending this election is something the Republican swamp in DC would do. To ivey's credit, she's not the swamp. It's good to see that those who claim to hate the swamp, actually approve of their tactics.

Oh I have no doubt that Governor Ivey (who endorsed the Confederacy in act one of her administration and went after Gay people in act 2) would certainly get all swampy if she felt it would do her any good.

But her problem is that extending the election doesn't solve any of her problems.

Moore is still the elected GOP nominee.

Hannity gave Moore 24 hours to come up with a better defense. If he does not? Hannity is calling for him to step down.

2.The Republicans want Sessions to be the write-in candidate.

3.Bannon have second thoughts about Moore. If Bannon starts attacking Moore? Than, Moore lost support from his number 1 backer.

(11-15-2017 01:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Hannity gave Moore 24 hours to come up with a better defense. If he does not? Hannity is calling for him to step down.

Hannity does not vote in Alabama

2.The Republicans want Sessions to be the write-in candidate.

Any Republican that runs against him cannot run as a Republican for 6 years

3.Bannon have second thoughts about Moore. If Bannon starts attacking Moore? Than, Moore lost support from his number 1 backer.

Bannon does not vote in Alabama

(11-15-2017 01:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Hannity gave Moore 24 hours to come up with a better defense. If he does not? Hannity is calling for him to step down.

2.The Republicans want Sessions to be the write-in candidate.

3.Bannon have second thoughts about Moore. If Bannon starts attacking Moore? Than, Moore lost support from his number 1 backer.

Here's the problem. Doug Jones would win in a race with Roy Moore, Jeff Sessions as a write in, and Doug Jones. Moore has people who will vote for him anyway.

You have to convince Moore to withdraw, and then you *might* have a chance. But not much of one. Because Moore will still be on the ballot. Moore isn't withdrawing.

(11-15-2017 11:03 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Guys, any news on the 'fake signature front'?

Just curious because it appears that Hannity and McConnell aren't buying it.

Fake sig is confirmed and discredited by all the experts. Not even CNN is using it anymore.

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(11-15-2017 04:44 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 11:03 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Guys, any news on the 'fake signature front'?

Just curious because it appears that Hannity and McConnell aren't buying it.

Fake sig is confirmed and discredited by all the experts. Not even CNN is using it anymore.

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Source? Roy Moore's lawyer?

Roy Moores judicial assistant was Dilbert Adams who used a stamp with initials "D.A." [Gloria Allred's low-rent forger screwed up] ?‍♂️

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(11-15-2017 09:51 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Roy Moores judicial assistant was Dilbert Adams who used a stamp with initials "D.A." [Gloria Allred's low-rent forger screwed up] ?‍♂️

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LOL. Really? Then have Roy sue the accuser for forgery and libel...

Seems like the most appropriate course of action.

Dilbert Adams? I love his work.

(11-15-2017 09:53 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 09:51 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Roy Moores judicial assistant was Dilbert Adams who used a stamp with initials "D.A." [Gloria Allred's low-rent forger screwed up] ?‍♂️

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LOL. Really? Then have Roy sue the accuser for forgery and libel...

Seems like the most appropriate course of action.

This going to amaze you but Alabamians will still get to vote.

Depends on whether the allegations are true or not. I just hope we ultimately get to know the truth.

(11-15-2017 10:36 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Depends on whether the allegations are true or not. I just hope we ultimately get to know the truth.

alabamians are gonna cast their ballots either way and there is a lot of time left. i think weve seen this before.