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RE: Why are the G4 trying to ride the AAC's coattails to success
10-2 is a valid dataset

42-3 is a valid whooping, coach or no coach
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RE: Why are the G4 trying to ride the AAC's coattails to success
(01-10-2018 06:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
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(01-10-2018 06:09 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  What's really funny is that Tech beat the AAC runner-up in a bowl game just last year03-lmfao

When the AAC runner-up is missing almost half the starters from the team that won the division in October and November, the CUSA runner-up can eke out a last second field goal win.
Nine months later, that AAC runner-up healed up beats the eventual CUSA runaway champ by three scores, but goes 4-4 in AAC.

Similarly, another 4-4 AAC team beates the other CUSA division winner by three scores.
But when they have no coaching staff, plays are called by a grad assistant, the interim coach the players were lobbying for departs, so that the new head coach knowing neither the terminology of the team's system nor the players' names is on the sideline...then a CUSA team can beat them badly.

That sums up the difference - you need the direst of circumstances for the AAC team to get these LaTech/CUSA wins of which you are SO proud.

Meanwhile, 32-16 over 3 years (yes, sunshine, bowls included) over the G4.



Yes we all know about the AAC the league of excuses, Memphis excuse for losing to WKU last Year, USF excuse for losing to WKU in 2015, SMU excuse for losing 42-3 to Tech, Houston excuse for getting whipped by SDSU and on on on on on

The better team won that day plain and simple, Personally I think excuses are for losers and each must own his victories and losses

BTW Tech had 52 players on the team injured some time during the season this year. Injuries are a part of the game

NAVY is truly a plug a play system, triple option that doesn't rely on the athleticism abilities of few playermakers like most G5 colleges rely on

Not an excuse. Said it going back to the day of the game - good win LaTech and congratulations.

What I am saying is that it is not a valid dataset supporting your argument of equality. Compared to your 52 injuries, Navy lost 108 GAMES from starters/key contributors that year. I've listed in another thread the nearly half of starters on O and D who were there in October and not on 23 December. It's just not data to be used in any real comparison.

Just like the SMU case - which is better data from which to draw conclusion: team at strength, or team with GA calling plays?

That's what I am saying - you have cherrypicked terrible examples from an analytical standpoint, and choose to ignore the big, valid dataset of 32-16.

Here's another valid dataset: the other G5 conferences are 10-2 versus the AAC in bowl games

The top G5 teams are better than the AAC top teams.

And according to your dataset the bottom G5 teams are worse than the bottom AAC teams.

Lol you realize you quoted the line where the cusa run away champ got beat down by a middle of the pack AAC team?

Our top teams don't play the g4 in bowls silly lil mountain man. Our best teams play the p5. Houston who lost to sdsu? 4th in the west, probably 5th or 6th overall in conference. Memphis was 3rd in the west last year, 5th over all. Should they have won? Hell yeah but they weren't the AAC's top teams. Those were Temple, Navy, USF, Tulsa... That SMU team you are singing about beating was 4th in the west and probably 6th over all, Houston was 3rd and 5th this year. Navy was locked into that bowl last year and you eeked out a win against a beat up team, it was the exception in bowls not the norm. Otherwise the G4 can beat middle of the road AAC teams, if they have injuries and/or coaching changes. Our 3 losses this year in the regular season were by Tulsa who went 2-9 who lost to Toledo (Mac champ) and New Mexico. Tulane 5-7 lost to fiu (second in cusa division) who took a beat down from a 6-6 middle of the AAC pack Temple in the bowl games you have so much faith in. You're climbing the wrong hill mountaineer, back to Appalachia with you.
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RE: Why are the G4 trying to ride the AAC's coattails to success
(01-09-2018 06:52 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:08 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:00 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 06:39 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 03:40 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Except there is NO INCENTIVE for group b to let you in. Even if you do prove it on the field. It’s 5 power conferences against 1 outlier.

They own the door and have the key. So what exactly is the plan once those P5 conferences poach your strongest schools?

The key to joining the power structure is not A secret. The AAC offered inclusion at the beginning if we could've secured a contract bowl,which was unsuccessful at the time. This is what led to Aresco negotiating for the g5 spot in a NY6 bowl which was basically the old big East slot.The p6 campaign is part of the Aresco plan to elevate the AAC back into our slot thereby reclaiming our power status. IF we can get NBC to legitimately commit to using us to break into college football scene with a decent payout and peach or fiesta bowl tie there's nothing anyone can do about it. I must admit that it pleases me knowing that this truly frightened you g4 trolls 05-ban

How exactly am I trolling by having a legitimate conversation on a message board? About a topic which, in its title, discusses the impact that UCF has on the non P5 teams. Damn, some of you guys are so insecure.

How does a peach or fiesta tie = CFB inclusion in the current format?? Arguably the best G5 team ever won the peach bowl this year and it’ll only mean a pat on the back.

I just don’t understand the disassociation you have between UCF going undefeated and it bebenfiting all the G5 teams. You know, the topic of conversation in the thread...


Because the bowl tie in is what gave then their autonomy, see this is the problem, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Haha, okay. I asked a question. I didn’t make a statement. I can’t wait for UCF, Houston et al. to specifically dump your school and the AAC for good.

Enjoy slurping the leaders of your conference until they leave you behind!

03-lmfao ^ now THAT'S a lot of butthurt...
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RE: Why are the G4 trying to ride the AAC's coattails to success
(01-10-2018 06:09 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 05:42 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 08:41 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:52 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:08 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Because the bowl tie in is what gave then their autonomy, see this is the problem, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Haha, okay. I asked a question. I didn’t make a statement. I can’t wait for UCF, Houston et al. to specifically dump your school and the AAC for good.

Enjoy slurping the leaders of your conference until they leave you behind!

You come here claiming la tech dominance by virtue of a win over a lower AAC team with a grad assistant and two week head coach. You be little the conference and declare us blind to our g4 level of access but don't even understand the situation. Don't try to play innocent now your ignorance is revealed.

Umm, no. I went to App State. I cheer for App State. I could give two flying ***** about LA Tech. Try again.

What's really funny is that Tech beat the AAC runner-up in a bowl game just last year03-lmfao clueless

so? I mean, you want a cookie or something? Try winning a NY6 six bowl and get back to me.
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RE: Why are the G4 trying to ride the AAC's coattails to success
Why are AAC teams trying to ride UCF's coattail's is the better question.
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RE: Why are the G4 trying to ride the AAC's coattails to success
(01-10-2018 07:02 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  10-2 is a valid dataset

42-3 is a valid whooping, coach or no coach

Time to report you
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(01-10-2018 08:31 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 07:02 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  10-2 is a valid dataset

42-3 is a valid whooping, coach or no coach

Time to report you

call in MLB...this guy is gone
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RE: Why are the G4 trying to ride the AAC's coattails to success
(01-10-2018 06:58 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 05:42 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 08:41 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:52 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:08 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Because the bowl tie in is what gave then their autonomy, see this is the problem, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Haha, okay. I asked a question. I didn’t make a statement. I can’t wait for UCF, Houston et al. to specifically dump your school and the AAC for good.

Enjoy slurping the leaders of your conference until they leave you behind!

You come here claiming la tech dominance by virtue of a win over a lower AAC team with a grad assistant and two week head coach. You be little the conference and declare us blind to our g4 level of access but don't even understand the situation. Don't try to play innocent now your ignorance is revealed.

Umm, no. I went to App State. I cheer for App State. I could give two flying ***** about LA Tech. Try again.

My bad on the school, I know it's probably wrong to say but well, it's true; all you g4's look the same to me and I really can't tell you apart.

I’m okay with that. My school is brand new to FBS, so we’ve still got a lot of work to do. Yours has been here forever and is just as indistinguishable.

No wonder you’re hoping to hell that UCF drags your dead body to the promise land. See you around in the G5...forever.
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(01-10-2018 07:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:52 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:08 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:00 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 06:39 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  The key to joining the power structure is not A secret. The AAC offered inclusion at the beginning if we could've secured a contract bowl,which was unsuccessful at the time. This is what led to Aresco negotiating for the g5 spot in a NY6 bowl which was basically the old big East slot.The p6 campaign is part of the Aresco plan to elevate the AAC back into our slot thereby reclaiming our power status. IF we can get NBC to legitimately commit to using us to break into college football scene with a decent payout and peach or fiesta bowl tie there's nothing anyone can do about it. I must admit that it pleases me knowing that this truly frightened you g4 trolls 05-ban

How exactly am I trolling by having a legitimate conversation on a message board? About a topic which, in its title, discusses the impact that UCF has on the non P5 teams. Damn, some of you guys are so insecure.

How does a peach or fiesta tie = CFB inclusion in the current format?? Arguably the best G5 team ever won the peach bowl this year and it’ll only mean a pat on the back.

I just don’t understand the disassociation you have between UCF going undefeated and it bebenfiting all the G5 teams. You know, the topic of conversation in the thread...


Because the bowl tie in is what gave then their autonomy, see this is the problem, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Haha, okay. I asked a question. I didn’t make a statement. I can’t wait for UCF, Houston et al. to specifically dump your school and the AAC for good.

Enjoy slurping the leaders of your conference until they leave you behind!

03-lmfao ^ now THAT'S a lot of butthurt...

For what it’s worth I think Memphis deserves to be in a power 5 conference as well. You guys have far too much history and talent in both football and basketball to be propping up the bottom 2/3rd’s of the AAC.
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RE: Why are the G4 trying to ride the AAC's coattails to success
(01-10-2018 09:00 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:58 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 05:42 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 08:41 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:52 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Haha, okay. I asked a question. I didn’t make a statement. I can’t wait for UCF, Houston et al. to specifically dump your school and the AAC for good.

Enjoy slurping the leaders of your conference until they leave you behind!

You come here claiming la tech dominance by virtue of a win over a lower AAC team with a grad assistant and two week head coach. You be little the conference and declare us blind to our g4 level of access but don't even understand the situation. Don't try to play innocent now your ignorance is revealed.

Umm, no. I went to App State. I cheer for App State. I could give two flying ***** about LA Tech. Try again.

My bad on the school, I know it's probably wrong to say but well, it's true; all you g4's look the same to me and I really can't tell you apart.

I’m okay with that. My school is brand new to FBS, so we’ve still got a lot of work to do. Yours has been here forever and is just as indistinguishable.

No wonder you’re hoping to hell that UCF drags your dead body to the promise land. See you around in the G5...forever.

Lol, we'll still have more nyd bowls than you will, ever, more cws, more tournament bids, more everything, but students you'll have us beat on that.
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(01-10-2018 09:02 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 07:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 06:52 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:08 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:00 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  How exactly am I trolling by having a legitimate conversation on a message board? About a topic which, in its title, discusses the impact that UCF has on the non P5 teams. Damn, some of you guys are so insecure.

How does a peach or fiesta tie = CFB inclusion in the current format?? Arguably the best G5 team ever won the peach bowl this year and it’ll only mean a pat on the back.

I just don’t understand the disassociation you have between UCF going undefeated and it bebenfiting all the G5 teams. You know, the topic of conversation in the thread...


Because the bowl tie in is what gave then their autonomy, see this is the problem, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Haha, okay. I asked a question. I didn’t make a statement. I can’t wait for UCF, Houston et al. to specifically dump your school and the AAC for good.

Enjoy slurping the leaders of your conference until they leave you behind!

03-lmfao ^ now THAT'S a lot of butthurt...

For what it’s worth I think Memphis deserves to be in a power 5 conference as well. You guys have far too much history and talent in both football and basketball to be propping up the bottom 2/3rd’s of the AAC.

Lol nearly every team in the AAC has more history than Memphis which isn't a knock on Memphis.

UConn, Temple, and Cincinnati all have their level of basketball history. Memphis is a power program in a power conference. They're just pulling their weight like 12 other programs.
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RE: Why are the G4 trying to ride the AAC's coattails to success
(01-10-2018 06:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:36 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:16 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:09 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  What's really funny is that Tech beat the AAC runner-up in a bowl game just last year03-lmfao

When the AAC runner-up is missing almost half the starters from the team that won the division in October and November, the CUSA runner-up can eke out a last second field goal win.
Nine months later, that AAC runner-up healed up beats the eventual CUSA runaway champ by three scores, but goes 4-4 in AAC.

Similarly, another 4-4 AAC team beates the other CUSA division winner by three scores.
But when they have no coaching staff, plays are called by a grad assistant, the interim coach the players were lobbying for departs, so that the new head coach knowing neither the terminology of the team's system nor the players' names is on the sideline...then a CUSA team can beat them badly.

That sums up the difference - you need the direst of circumstances for the AAC team to get these LaTech/CUSA wins of which you are SO proud.

Meanwhile, 32-16 over 3 years (yes, sunshine, bowls included) over the G4.



Yes we all know about the AAC the league of excuses, Memphis excuse for losing to WKU last Year, USF excuse for losing to WKU in 2015, SMU excuse for losing 42-3 to Tech, Houston excuse for getting whipped by SDSU and on on on on on

The better team won that day plain and simple, Personally I think excuses are for losers and each must own his victories and losses

BTW Tech had 52 players on the team injured some time during the season this year. Injuries are a part of the game

NAVY is truly a plug a play system, triple option that doesn't rely on the athleticism abilities of few playermakers like most G5 colleges rely on

Not an excuse. Said it going back to the day of the game - good win LaTech and congratulations.

What I am saying is that it is not a valid dataset supporting your argument of equality. Compared to your 52 injuries, Navy lost 108 GAMES from starters/key contributors that year. I've listed in another thread the nearly half of starters on O and D who were there in October and not on 23 December. It's just not data to be used in any real comparison.

Just like the SMU case - which is better data from which to draw conclusion: team at strength, or team with GA calling plays?

That's what I am saying - you have cherrypicked terrible examples from an analytical standpoint, and choose to ignore the big, valid dataset of 32-16.

Here's another valid dataset: the other G5 conferences are 10-2 versus the AAC in bowl games

The top G5 teams are better than the AAC top teams.

And according to your dataset the bottom G5 teams are worse than the bottom AAC teams.

I will weigh in here one more time.

You WANT 2-10 bowl record to be the most important, most significant thing. You WANT that to be considered to the exclusion of 30-6 in the reguar season. That's upside down.

BOWLS are LESS significant than regular season. 1) Sample size. 12 datapoints is WAY less valid than 48 datapoints. That's basic stats. It is obvious that you don't math much, but that is pretty basic.
2) Variability. Wholesale coaching staff turnover is one factor. That's at least two high profile losses for Herman and Morris leaving, I don't know about Fuente, etc. Also, believe it or not, these are still exhibition games outside the CFP and the approach of staffs and players varies greatly.

I understand why you want bowls to have outsized importance: in another thread we've dissected that bowls are most G4s' ONLY viewership over 1 million; bowls are only 2 or 3 of the top ten AAC games. YOUR emotional investment in the least important part of the college football season doesnt make it more statistically significant.

So the regular season is more valid just by sample size. You WANT to frame that as G4 bottom dwellers, but that is just not true. Regular season 30-6, this year is a typical 10-4. Of those 10 wins this year, only TWO were against teams with losing G4-in-conference records. The 8 wins against .500+ G4s included CUSA champ, CUSA div champ, CUSA div runnerup, SunBelt Runnerup, ALL by middle of the pack AAC teams. The losses? In fact were AAC bottom dwellers.

What you WANT to be true isn't. Sorry.

Again, 2-10 <<<< 32-16 < 7-6 < 3-0
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(01-10-2018 09:36 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:36 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:16 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  When the AAC runner-up is missing almost half the starters from the team that won the division in October and November, the CUSA runner-up can eke out a last second field goal win.
Nine months later, that AAC runner-up healed up beats the eventual CUSA runaway champ by three scores, but goes 4-4 in AAC.

Similarly, another 4-4 AAC team beates the other CUSA division winner by three scores.
But when they have no coaching staff, plays are called by a grad assistant, the interim coach the players were lobbying for departs, so that the new head coach knowing neither the terminology of the team's system nor the players' names is on the sideline...then a CUSA team can beat them badly.

That sums up the difference - you need the direst of circumstances for the AAC team to get these LaTech/CUSA wins of which you are SO proud.

Meanwhile, 32-16 over 3 years (yes, sunshine, bowls included) over the G4.



Yes we all know about the AAC the league of excuses, Memphis excuse for losing to WKU last Year, USF excuse for losing to WKU in 2015, SMU excuse for losing 42-3 to Tech, Houston excuse for getting whipped by SDSU and on on on on on

The better team won that day plain and simple, Personally I think excuses are for losers and each must own his victories and losses

BTW Tech had 52 players on the team injured some time during the season this year. Injuries are a part of the game

NAVY is truly a plug a play system, triple option that doesn't rely on the athleticism abilities of few playermakers like most G5 colleges rely on

Not an excuse. Said it going back to the day of the game - good win LaTech and congratulations.

What I am saying is that it is not a valid dataset supporting your argument of equality. Compared to your 52 injuries, Navy lost 108 GAMES from starters/key contributors that year. I've listed in another thread the nearly half of starters on O and D who were there in October and not on 23 December. It's just not data to be used in any real comparison.

Just like the SMU case - which is better data from which to draw conclusion: team at strength, or team with GA calling plays?

That's what I am saying - you have cherrypicked terrible examples from an analytical standpoint, and choose to ignore the big, valid dataset of 32-16.

Here's another valid dataset: the other G5 conferences are 10-2 versus the AAC in bowl games

The top G5 teams are better than the AAC top teams.

And according to your dataset the bottom G5 teams are worse than the bottom AAC teams.

I will weigh in here one more time.

You WANT 2-10 bowl record to be the most important, most significant thing. You WANT that to be considered to the exclusion of 30-16 in the reguar season. That's upside down.

BOWLS are LESS significant than regular season. 1) Sample size. 12 datapoints is WAY less valid than 48 datapoints. That's basic stats. It is obvious that you don't math much, but that is pretty basic.
2) Variability. Wholesale coaching staff turnover is one factor. That's at least two high profile losses for Herman and Morris leaving, I don't know about Fuente, etc. Also, believe it or not, these are still exhibition games outside the CFP and the approach of staffs and players varies greatly.

I understand why you want bowls to have outsized importance: in another thread we've dissected that bowls are most G4s' ONLY viewership over 1 million; bowls are only 2 or 3 of the top ten AAC games. YOUR emotional investment in the least important part of the college football season doesnt make it more statistically significant.

So the regular season is more valid just by sample size. You WANT to frame that as G4 bottom dwellers, but that is just not true. Regular season 30-6, this year is a typical 10-4. Of those 10 wins this year, only TWO were against teams with losing G4-in-conference records. The 8 wins against .500+ G4s included CUSA champ, CUSA div champ, CUSA div runnerup, SunBelt Runnerup, ALL by middle of the pack AAC teams. The losses? In fact were AAC bottom dwellers.

What you WANT to be true isn't. Sorry.

Again, 2-10 <<<< 32-16 < 7-6 < 3-0

They have zero response to this. Great data.
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(01-09-2018 10:21 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  LOL, so much coat riding going on the CUSA board. One poster literally said twice that the #6 ranking was a bone thrown to the entire G5, as if somehow that had anything to do CUSA. Unbelievable.

Our AD calls us a p6, so we are not doing anything for anyone outside the AAC.
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(01-10-2018 06:58 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 05:42 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 08:41 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  You come here claiming la tech dominance by virtue of a win over a lower AAC team with a grad assistant and two week head coach. You be little the conference and declare us blind to our g4 level of access but don't even understand the situation. Don't try to play innocent now your ignorance is revealed.

Umm, no. I went to App State. I cheer for App State. I could give two flying ***** about LA Tech. Try again.

My bad on the school, I know it's probably wrong to say but well, it's true; all you g4's look the same to me and I really can't tell you apart.

I’m okay with that. My school is brand new to FBS, so we’ve still got a lot of work to do. Yours has been here forever and is just as indistinguishable.

No wonder you’re hoping to hell that UCF drags your dead body to the promise land. See you around in the G5...forever.

Lol, we'll still have more nyd bowls than you will, ever, more cws, more tournament bids, more everything, but students you'll have us beat on that.

Youre probably right. It’d be foolish for me to come in here and argue my school versus yours. Which is probably why I’m not.

Doesn’t change my prior statement. UCF and the like will leave you behind for a real power conference. And before you know it, you’ll be sharing a conference with someone like little old App State (unlikely) or another ” G4” team. The fact remains, we are ALL on the same set of coattails right now. In the hope of an expanded playoff.
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RE: Why are the G4 trying to ride the AAC's coattails to success
This La Tech fan was outright inventing nonsense on their board too when trying to discredit UCF to make himself feel better about being a CUSA program.
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(01-11-2018 01:04 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  This La Tech fan was outright inventing nonsense on their board too when trying to discredit UCF to make himself feel better about being a CUSA program.

I don’t blame the La Tech fan for being salty either. La Tech got left behind in a fairly dismal version of CUSA that’s virtually indistinguishable from the Funbelt and MAC. There’s like, 8-10 decent football programs among the 40 or so in those three conferences.

But I’m on the UCF bandwagon because, as I’ve stated, I think they help drive the expanded playoff conversation. I just don’t see any way the P5 commissioners allow another conference into the CFB mix as is. It would literally make it more difficult for their own conference champ to make the playoff, which would be detrimental to the conference and probably their job.
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(01-11-2018 12:41 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 09:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 09:00 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:58 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 05:42 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Umm, no. I went to App State. I cheer for App State. I could give two flying ***** about LA Tech. Try again.

My bad on the school, I know it's probably wrong to say but well, it's true; all you g4's look the same to me and I really can't tell you apart.

I’m okay with that. My school is brand new to FBS, so we’ve still got a lot of work to do. Yours has been here forever and is just as indistinguishable.

No wonder you’re hoping to hell that UCF drags your dead body to the promise land. See you around in the G5...forever.

Lol, we'll still have more nyd bowls than you will, ever, more cws, more tournament bids, more everything, but students you'll have us beat on that.

Youre probably right. It’d be foolish for me to come in here and argue my school versus yours. Which is probably why I’m not.

Doesn’t change my prior statement. UCF and the like will leave you behind for a real power conference. And before you know it, you’ll be sharing a conference with someone like little old App State (unlikely) or another ” G4” team. The fact remains, we are ALL on the same set of coattails right now. In the hope of an expanded playoff.

And I'm sure there are Big 12 teams that will leave for the SEC/Big10 if they called. What's your point? Teams in the P5 tout their conferences, not P5. Only schools that tout G5 is ones like yours. No one in the AAC does. It's easy for a G4er to make that statement because yall add nothing to the P6 conversation.
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(01-11-2018 04:34 PM)Coogaholic Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 12:41 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 09:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 09:00 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:58 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  My bad on the school, I know it's probably wrong to say but well, it's true; all you g4's look the same to me and I really can't tell you apart.

I’m okay with that. My school is brand new to FBS, so we’ve still got a lot of work to do. Yours has been here forever and is just as indistinguishable.

No wonder you’re hoping to hell that UCF drags your dead body to the promise land. See you around in the G5...forever.

Lol, we'll still have more nyd bowls than you will, ever, more cws, more tournament bids, more everything, but students you'll have us beat on that.

Youre probably right. It’d be foolish for me to come in here and argue my school versus yours. Which is probably why I’m not.

Doesn’t change my prior statement. UCF and the like will leave you behind for a real power conference. And before you know it, you’ll be sharing a conference with someone like little old App State (unlikely) or another ” G4” team. The fact remains, we are ALL on the same set of coattails right now. In the hope of an expanded playoff.

And I'm sure there are Big 12 teams that will leave for the SEC/Big10 if they called. What's your point? Teams in the P5 tout their conferences, not P5. Only schools that tout G5 is ones like yours. No one in the AAC does. It's easy for you to make that statement because yall add nothing to the P6 conversation.

I thought I made my point pretty clear, but okay, I’ll post it again. The top AAC teams don’t actually give a **** about the AAC and will dump it in a heartbeat to join a real power conference. Because the AAC is not a power conference.

I don’t care about the G5 or the Sunbelt. I care about App State. If UCF going undefeated helps push an expanded playoff narrative that at some point in the future gives App a look at that slot, I’m all for it.

Also I don’t add to the P6 conversation because it’s make believe. Real power conferences don’t have to tell everyone they are one all the time. Like a toddler telling everyone he’s a “big boy”.
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(01-11-2018 12:41 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 09:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 09:00 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:58 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 05:42 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Umm, no. I went to App State. I cheer for App State. I could give two flying ***** about LA Tech. Try again.

My bad on the school, I know it's probably wrong to say but well, it's true; all you g4's look the same to me and I really can't tell you apart.

I’m okay with that. My school is brand new to FBS, so we’ve still got a lot of work to do. Yours has been here forever and is just as indistinguishable.

No wonder you’re hoping to hell that UCF drags your dead body to the promise land. See you around in the G5...forever.

Lol, we'll still have more nyd bowls than you will, ever, more cws, more tournament bids, more everything, but students you'll have us beat on that.

Youre probably right. It’d be foolish for me to come in here and argue my school versus yours. Which is probably why I’m not.

Doesn’t change my prior statement. UCF and the like will leave you behind for a real power conference. And before you know it, you’ll be sharing a conference with someone like little old App State (unlikely) or another ” G4” team. The fact remains, we are ALL on the same set of coattails right now. In the hope of an expanded playoff.

App is a fine school with a fine football program and football centric culture. If disaster struck and the AAC was decimated I'd have zero issue with your school coming the AAC.
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