Ahead was supposed to say grad assistant.

(02-20-2018 05:56 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 12:25 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 07:47 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 06:52 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 01:12 AM)JMU13 Wrote:  Coaching is the problem; most talented group of JMU players that I've seen in the 8 years I've been following the team. Once Rowe learns how to manage/handle a team - they'll be unstoppable.

He learned under Lefty and Lefty was not a good sideline coach. He knew who to put a team together through recruiting and from there the players did the rest. I'm not sure LR has the knowledge through mentoring necessary to be a good game manager. I'm sure he'll get better, but he's really going to have to rely on his ability to bring in good players.

I think the Lou Rowe/Lefty mentor thing is overplayed. Lou Rowe never coached for Lefty the same way he never coached for Lon Kruger or Eric Musselman or Pat Riley all of the other coaches he played for. Lou Rowe was a player for Lefty 25 years ago. As a son of a coach I'm sure Lou Rowe tried to absorb as much as he could while playing for Lefty but he had bigger fish to fry as a legit pro prospect back in the day. Does Lou pay homage to Lefty and maybe try to build a program like Lefty did in terms of players, recruiting etc? Is he trying to reignite the excitement under Lefty in the program?- sure but Lou's coaching style has more likely been shaped by his time as an assistant coach. Lou was also mentored by Kenny Brooks- Brooks is a more direct Lefty coaching tree guy having been an assistant for Lefty before switching to the women's team.

Speaking of Lou's other coaching stops prior to JMU- Kevin Baggert and Rider currently sit atop the MAAC and Michael Huger is having his best year yet at Bowling Green. Maybe Lou's recruiting played a small hand in some of the success those programs are starting to have but regardless it looks like those guys are solid coaches when folks may have thought otherwise when Lou was first hired.

You can put me in the category of fans who generally feels that the impact that most coaches can have in terms of game strategy/x's and o's is often overrated and it's the players that make all the difference. It's why barring players leaving the program I would put my confidence level for 19-20 at close to 100. If you watch these true freshman play- not only will they be all league caliber by as early as next season but by the time they are upper classmen they have the potential to win a lot of games as Juniors.

I might feel this way as well, had this not made such a large impact on my thoughts. Pete Gaudet took over a 9 -3 Duke Blue Devil team in the middle of the 1994 - 1995 season. Mike Krzyzewski went out with back issues and that same team finished the season with only 13 wins. It was awful. This proved to me coaches make a huge difference in player rotation and game strategy, more than I ever imagined.

No doubt some coaches can make a big difference on the floor - those are the elite coaches- we're not really talking about that here.

KEVIN KEATTS

(02-20-2018 09:02 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 05:56 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 12:25 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 07:47 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 06:52 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  He learned under Lefty and Lefty was not a good sideline coach. He knew who to put a team together through recruiting and from there the players did the rest. I'm not sure LR has the knowledge through mentoring necessary to be a good game manager. I'm sure he'll get better, but he's really going to have to rely on his ability to bring in good players.

I think the Lou Rowe/Lefty mentor thing is overplayed. Lou Rowe never coached for Lefty the same way he never coached for Lon Kruger or Eric Musselman or Pat Riley all of the other coaches he played for. Lou Rowe was a player for Lefty 25 years ago. As a son of a coach I'm sure Lou Rowe tried to absorb as much as he could while playing for Lefty but he had bigger fish to fry as a legit pro prospect back in the day. Does Lou pay homage to Lefty and maybe try to build a program like Lefty did in terms of players, recruiting etc? Is he trying to reignite the excitement under Lefty in the program?- sure but Lou's coaching style has more likely been shaped by his time as an assistant coach. Lou was also mentored by Kenny Brooks- Brooks is a more direct Lefty coaching tree guy having been an assistant for Lefty before switching to the women's team.

Speaking of Lou's other coaching stops prior to JMU- Kevin Baggert and Rider currently sit atop the MAAC and Michael Huger is having his best year yet at Bowling Green. Maybe Lou's recruiting played a small hand in some of the success those programs are starting to have but regardless it looks like those guys are solid coaches when folks may have thought otherwise when Lou was first hired.

You can put me in the category of fans who generally feels that the impact that most coaches can have in terms of game strategy/x's and o's is often overrated and it's the players that make all the difference. It's why barring players leaving the program I would put my confidence level for 19-20 at close to 100. If you watch these true freshman play- not only will they be all league caliber by as early as next season but by the time they are upper classmen they have the potential to win a lot of games as Juniors.

I might feel this way as well, had this not made such a large impact on my thoughts. Pete Gaudet took over a 9 -3 Duke Blue Devil team in the middle of the 1994 - 1995 season. Mike Krzyzewski went out with back issues and that same team finished the season with only 13 wins. It was awful. This proved to me coaches make a huge difference in player rotation and game strategy, more than I ever imagined.

No doubt some coaches can make a big difference on the floor - those are the elite coaches- we're not really talking about that here.

KEVIN KEATTS

Our own Lou Campanelli. I don't think there's ever been a better HC with the command of the game, his team, and what was needed for the moment.

NOT the CAA but the CAC
Good things happen when you keep grinding. Climb that mountain and use this CAC Championship Game as inspiration:

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Sticking 3.1

If Lou keeps his Freshman and lands a 2nd strong class of recruits, my confidence level will be very high for next year and beyond.

(02-28-2018 08:05 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  If Lou keeps his Freshman and lands a 2nd strong class of recruits, my confidence level will be very high for next year and beyond.

Agree.

My confidence level is based on player retention. With a transfer rate of 40% we can only expect to keep about half the freshman class.

Player rating 6, Coaching -3.5 so I'm at a 2.5

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Finishing the season at 2.2

Think the talent level was greater than results.

I think we have some great young talent. The problem remains to be coaching. Unless that changes, my confidence level is at an all time low. A zero for me would be complete apathy, for that is the worst thing that can happen to any team. I am not apathetic, but I no longer lose sleep over a loss. A loss doesn't ruin my day. It doesn't even make me angry anymore.


2, and I'm being pretty generous giving a number that high.

This thread will get better a year from now when we know who is coming and who is going. The only thing for certain is that Mosley and Phillips will have exhausted their eligibility by 2019-2020 season. Everything else is uncertain.

I love when fans root for players to leave the program - the same fans who predict 20 wins so that they can hammer the coach every game along with way and when they underperform their prediction. If recruiting isn't good, coaching isn't good going into the season, and the players are all different then why would the fans have such high expectations for the team to start the year? If it's certain that players will leave the program in 2019-2020 then why even have this poll in the first place?

Just checking- this is a JMU fan board right?

(03-06-2018 07:33 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I love when fans root for players to leave the program - the same fans who predict 20 wins so that they can hammer the coach every game along with way and when they underperform their prediction. If recruiting isn't good, coaching isn't good going into the season, and the players are all different then why would the fans have such high expectations for the team to start the year? If it's certain that players will leave the program in 2019-2020 then why even have this poll in the first place?

Just checking- this is a JMU fan board right?

Can you give some examples. I'm not recalling anything to reference your point.

Dukeman said it would be best for Lewis to transfer because he's a garbage poster

Dukeman = WOAT

What would a reasonable man estimate for the probability that Rowe will be at JMU through Lewis' senior year?

Bad decisions have consequences; math has no mercy

(03-07-2018 09:06 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  What would a reasonable man estimate for the probability that Rowe will be at JMU through Lewis' senior year?

Bad decisions have consequences; math has no mercy

ahh the classic man estimate. Way better than the alternative, woman estimate