(01-09-2018 05:55 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 05:38 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Realignment is defined in the modern context as joining a power conference.

I honestly don't know what to make of this coming from a fan of a team that just jumped from the Valley to the American - that wasn't a change of any consequence? Realignment is exactly that - any change in conference membership. Some of it's good for certain teams, some of it isn't, regardless of the conferences involved.

The Valley to the American is a massive jump in brand perception versus a jump from the American to the Big Pee. I would actually call the latter a lateral move but take my opinion with a grain of salt as my job title is Troll and I am currently clocked in.


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(01-09-2018 10:38 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Right now they aren't good at hoops or football. If UConn and Memphis played like they did in the recent past, we could be a top 3 hoops league. I get that it sucks for UConn coming from the old big east, but I lot of teams got shafted too. Can't blame the AAC at this point when you're not competing.

UConn's problems are not caused by the AAC. Their womans BB has thrived here, they are not competitive in FB here, And BB is on a steady decline. The problem is leadership at UConn.

(01-09-2018 05:55 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 05:38 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Realignment is defined in the modern context as joining a power conference.

I honestly don't know what to make of this coming from a fan of a team that just jumped from the Valley to the American - that wasn't a change of any consequence? Realignment is exactly that - any change in conference membership. Some of it's good for certain teams, some of it isn't, regardless of the conferences involved.

And I would certainly not call Wichita State leaving the MVC as "realignment". It was more like escape. I doubt the AAC had any intentions on weakening the MVC by snapping us up and our move was certainly not orchestrated by ESPN - both factors usually occurring during "real" realignments.

We were very lucky. And I think it's turned out well for the AAC also.


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(01-09-2018 06:23 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  We were very lucky. And I think it's turned out well for the AAC also.

I got no problem with Wichita - I think they and the conference both benefit from the Shockers joining. Back when there was talk of bringing WSU on I was saying that my preference was for UConn to be in the more geographically-appropriate Big East, but so long as they were going to remain in the American Wichita made sense.

U Conn is going through what a lot of us went through 10, 20, 30 years ago and some of us multiple times.
It's not easy.

This blame the ACC stuff is getting crusty.

I guess the traditional awards.... player of the year, etc.... won’t go to UCONN

So how about “Drama Queen of the year?”

(01-09-2018 10:33 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  https://www.theday.com/sports-columns/20...onn-in-aac


How much more of this are we going to take?

How much more time is UConn going to spend in the American Athletic Conference before realizing that, even with well-meaning people and successful teams, the American’s wheels spin furiously but with no traction?

How long till we have earnest conversations with each other questioning the long term viability of football and whether there’s a legitimate chance of rejoining the Big East to save basketball?

They played for the national championship in college football Monday night. Georgia vs. Alabama, two teams that lost to Auburn. Except that War … Damn … Eagle (Auburn) lost to Central Florida in the Peach Bowl last week. That’s undefeated UCF of the American. That didn’t get a sniff of the playoffs.

So when, exactly, do you think the American will get a seat at the table if an undefeated team that beat the team that beat The Teams is still an afterthought?

We can lament the unfairness of it all and unburden ourselves with rhetoric till we hyperventilate. All moot. Because why would the Power Five want to share anything with anybody else? They seem to be doing just fine, no?

Heck, Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby all but mocked UCF the other day when he was quoted as saying beating Auburn once isn’t the same as preparing to play the likes of Auburn every week. And there it is. Poof. The American’s undefeated team? Dismissed like a caller to Mike Francesa.

So is there anyone out there who can provide some evidence this is going to change?

Meanwhile, UConn sports, through bad leadership and some external circumstances, are suffering. Clearly, UConn poohbahs have made bad decisions. Bob Diaco was a disaster. Kevin Ollie needs an offensive coordinator. We get that. And the AAC is making it worse.

No one’s saying the AAC isn’t respectable in football and men’s basketball. Two things, though: The Power Five doesn’t care and doesn’t need to; and quality competition doesn’t move the needle in Connecticut as much as sex appeal.

The AAC has some good basketball teams in Wichita State, Cincinnati and SMU. But when you grow up on The Big East — whose geography and rivalries resonate with fans from Stamford to Stonington — it’s hard to get even the most ardent UConn fans excited about Tulane and East Carolina.

That’s kind of the deal. AAC people get irritated at the criticism. It’s no reflection on them or their teams. It’s just that nobody in Connecticut has any frame of reference whatsoever to what the league’s selling. Come see the Huskies play … Tulsa?

Look at it this way: The three biggest names in New England college basketball — UConn, Providence and Boston College — played home games this past Saturday afternoon. When’s the last time UConn played the least desirable game to watch? Providence played nationally ranked Xavier and BC played Wake Forest. Meanwhile, UConn played East Carolina before more than 8,000 empty seats at the XL Center.

There is no joy in these words. The AAC has some nice people. The mere suggestion that UConn drop football is disrespectful to Randy Edsall, a good man for whom my son would play any day. And I have no idea about exit fees, bad blood or whether the Big East would take UConn back in the first place.

This much I do know, however: I’ve talked to a few donors in recent weeks who can’t take much more of this. They see the same thing as I do, the power structure failing to take the AAC seriously. UConn’s bad hires affecting the current product. And the need to begin some uncomfortable conversations.

I've only just opened this thread, so I'm hopeful that all (or most) of you have put this writer and all who support his idiotic thinking on full blast. Please don't disappoint me.

(01-09-2018 07:52 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 10:33 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  https://www.theday.com/sports-columns/20...onn-in-aac


How much more of this are we going to take?

How much more time is UConn going to spend in the American Athletic Conference before realizing that, even with well-meaning people and successful teams, the American’s wheels spin furiously but with no traction?

How long till we have earnest conversations with each other questioning the long term viability of football and whether there’s a legitimate chance of rejoining the Big East to save basketball?

They played for the national championship in college football Monday night. Georgia vs. Alabama, two teams that lost to Auburn. Except that War … Damn … Eagle (Auburn) lost to Central Florida in the Peach Bowl last week. That’s undefeated UCF of the American. That didn’t get a sniff of the playoffs.

So when, exactly, do you think the American will get a seat at the table if an undefeated team that beat the team that beat The Teams is still an afterthought?

We can lament the unfairness of it all and unburden ourselves with rhetoric till we hyperventilate. All moot. Because why would the Power Five want to share anything with anybody else? They seem to be doing just fine, no?

Heck, Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby all but mocked UCF the other day when he was quoted as saying beating Auburn once isn’t the same as preparing to play the likes of Auburn every week. And there it is. Poof. The American’s undefeated team? Dismissed like a caller to Mike Francesa.

So is there anyone out there who can provide some evidence this is going to change?

Meanwhile, UConn sports, through bad leadership and some external circumstances, are suffering. Clearly, UConn poohbahs have made bad decisions. Bob Diaco was a disaster. Kevin Ollie needs an offensive coordinator. We get that. And the AAC is making it worse.

No one’s saying the AAC isn’t respectable in football and men’s basketball. Two things, though: The Power Five doesn’t care and doesn’t need to; and quality competition doesn’t move the needle in Connecticut as much as sex appeal.

The AAC has some good basketball teams in Wichita State, Cincinnati and SMU. But when you grow up on The Big East — whose geography and rivalries resonate with fans from Stamford to Stonington — it’s hard to get even the most ardent UConn fans excited about Tulane and East Carolina.

That’s kind of the deal. AAC people get irritated at the criticism. It’s no reflection on them or their teams. It’s just that nobody in Connecticut has any frame of reference whatsoever to what the league’s selling. Come see the Huskies play … Tulsa?

Look at it this way: The three biggest names in New England college basketball — UConn, Providence and Boston College — played home games this past Saturday afternoon. When’s the last time UConn played the least desirable game to watch? Providence played nationally ranked Xavier and BC played Wake Forest. Meanwhile, UConn played East Carolina before more than 8,000 empty seats at the XL Center.

There is no joy in these words. The AAC has some nice people. The mere suggestion that UConn drop football is disrespectful to Randy Edsall, a good man for whom my son would play any day. And I have no idea about exit fees, bad blood or whether the Big East would take UConn back in the first place.

This much I do know, however: I’ve talked to a few donors in recent weeks who can’t take much more of this. They see the same thing as I do, the power structure failing to take the AAC seriously. UConn’s bad hires affecting the current product. And the need to begin some uncomfortable conversations.

I've only just opened this thread, so I'm hopeful that all (or most) of you have put this writer and all who support his idiotic thinking on full blast. Please don't disappoint me.

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(01-09-2018 07:19 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  This blame the ACC stuff is getting crusty.

I guess the traditional awards.... player of the year, etc.... won’t go to UCONN

So how about “Drama Queen of the year?”

Who's blaming the ACC?

im late to the party. i read the article and i read the comments of the uconn fans...and long story short you want every thing handed to you

uconn is currently in a league where they already out-recruit everyone in the league. the last 3 years in the AAC you have recruited 6 ESPN 100 4star, 3 other non-100 4 stars (and technically a 7th espn 100 sitting out on transfer rules, who might get a waiver, sid wilson) .
the top 5 aac teams COMBINED have less espn 100 than uconn (cincy 2, wsu 2, smu* 1, houston 0, ucf 0)
(im not counting the smu transfer that transferred 2 times prior to smu)

uconn fans are saying you arent winning in the AAC becuase you arent getting the quality of recruits to win, that youd get better recruits in the big east to win, despite out recruiting the league you play in by a large amount and still not wining

i dont get blaming the conference instead of blaming the coach

(01-09-2018 08:29 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 07:19 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  This blame the ACC stuff is getting crusty.

I guess the traditional awards.... player of the year, etc.... won’t go to UCONN

So how about “Drama Queen of the year?”

Who's blaming the ACC?

C’mon man. I visit the Boneyard now and then.

Major theme. Maybe not you but.... c’mon man.

(01-09-2018 08:31 PM)pesik Wrote:  im late to the party. i read the article and i read the comments of the uconn fans...and long story short you want every thing handed to you

uconn is currently in a league where they already out-recruit everyone in the league. the last 3 years in the AAC you have recruited 6 ESPN 100 4star, 3 other non-100 4 stars (and technically a 7th espn 100 sitting out on transfer rules, who might get a waiver, sid wilson) .
the top 5 aac teams COMBINED have less espn 100 than uconn (cincy 2, wsu 2, smu* 1, houston 0, ucf 0)
(im not counting the smu transfer that transferred 2 times prior to smu)

uconn fans are saying you arent winning in the AAC becuase you arent getting the quality of recruits to win, that youd get better recruits in the big east to win, despite out recruiting the league you play in by a large amount and still not wining

i dont get blaming the conference instead of blaming the coach

Sometimes never is better than late.

(01-09-2018 08:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 08:31 PM)pesik Wrote:  im late to the party. i read the article and i read the comments of the uconn fans...and long story short you want every thing handed to you

uconn is currently in a league where they already out-recruit everyone in the league. the last 3 years in the AAC you have recruited 6 ESPN 100 4star, 3 other non-100 4 stars (and technically a 7th espn 100 sitting out on transfer rules, who might get a waiver, sid wilson) .
the top 5 aac teams COMBINED have less espn 100 than uconn (cincy 2, wsu 2, smu* 1, houston 0, ucf 0)
(im not counting the smu transfer that transferred 2 times prior to smu)

uconn fans are saying you arent winning in the AAC becuase you arent getting the quality of recruits to win, that youd get better recruits in the big east to win, despite out recruiting the league you play in by a large amount and still not wining

i dont get blaming the conference instead of blaming the coach

Sometimes never is better than late.

lol that comment made me laugh..you are quick witted, ill give you that

(01-09-2018 08:31 PM)pesik Wrote:  i dont get blaming the conference instead of blaming the coach

Who isn't also blaming the coach?

(01-09-2018 08:39 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 08:31 PM)pesik Wrote:  i dont get blaming the conference instead of blaming the coach

Who isn't also blaming the coach?

i mean just the coach...houston fell below expectation in football...we attack applewhite, we dont attack the aac

(01-09-2018 08:31 PM)pesik Wrote:  im late to the party. i read the article and i read the comments of the uconn fans...and long story short you want every thing handed to you

uconn is currently in a league where they already out-recruit everyone in the league. the last 3 years in the AAC you have recruited 6 ESPN 100 4star, 3 other non-100 4 stars (and technically a 7th espn 100 sitting out on transfer rules, who might get a waiver, sid wilson) .
the top 5 aac teams COMBINED have less espn 100 than uconn (cincy 2, wsu 2, smu* 1, houston 0, ucf 0)
(im not counting the smu transfer that transferred 2 times prior to smu)

uconn fans are saying you arent winning in the AAC becuase you arent getting the quality of recruits to win, that youd get better recruits in the big east to win, despite out recruiting the league you play in by a large amount and still not wining

i dont get blaming the conference instead of blaming the coach

I had no idea they have that many 4* recruits... something is certainly rotten in Denmark. Perhaps it's a rebalancing of the universal Karma distribution allotments after all those Natty's. Lucky SOB's...

When you think of all the Burger Boy Blue Chippers the K|Uck-Heads have landed over the last 40+ years with only 2 'ships to show for it since the early '50's... UConn has indeed been blessed. See: Reversion to the Mean

P.S. The ChicKUn-Hacks have sent over 80 players to the NBA with 16 currently playing in the NBA...




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(01-09-2018 08:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 08:39 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 08:31 PM)pesik Wrote:  i dont get blaming the conference instead of blaming the coach

Who isn't also blaming the coach?

i mean just the coach...houston fell below expectation in football...we attack applewhite, we dont attack the aac

Houston's also not sitting on an invitation to a Texas-centric conference of former SWC teams that grades out higher in football because they're prioritizing their basketball team. There's no good 1:1 comparison to the UConn-Big East situation anywhere else in the conference (or college sports in general, for that matter).

(01-09-2018 08:58 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 08:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 08:39 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 08:31 PM)pesik Wrote:  i dont get blaming the conference instead of blaming the coach

Who isn't also blaming the coach?

i mean just the coach...houston fell below expectation in football...we attack applewhite, we dont attack the aac

Houston's also not sitting on an invitation to a Texas-centric conference of former SWC teams that grades out higher in football because they're prioritizing their basketball team. There's no good 1:1 comparison to the UConn-Big East situation anywhere else in the conference (or college sports in general, for that matter).

Objection!

Get UConn and Memphis back to mere mediocrity and your analogy doesn't make sense -if I'm understanding it correctly. You are giving The Pee too much credit.

The Pee are like a brand new Kia with a super high-gloss metallic paint job and a free tank of premium fuel while the AAC is like a 2-year old Lexus covered in birdshit and tar having just driven through 30 miles of road construction. Which one do you want to be driving 3 years from now? There is absolutely NO WAY the Pee improves on what they've done coming out of the gate. Their only trajectory can be down while the AAC hasn't even hit its stride yet in basketball.

And haven't you heard? One of our teams just won the national championship in football...

There is absolutely NO COMPARISON between the two conferences in brand recognition potential if football indeed drives the collegiate sporting bus...

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(01-09-2018 01:45 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Y'all getting punk'd by a BC fanboy author. Kind of like quo posting something and everybody hating on USF.

No, we're not. If it was only him, sure.

But a LOT of your fans have been quite vocal for a long time about wanting to leave the AAC for the Big East, and drop football.