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RE: [split] AAC TV proposal
(02-01-2018 11:33 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  We won't be signing a single network deal, we will be dividing up our inventory

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

20-25 games---NBC/NBC-Sports

20-25 games---ABC/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU

The rest---CBS-Sports or a streamer.

Thats how you get to 6-8 million a team.
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(02-01-2018 12:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 11:33 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  We won't be signing a single network deal, we will be dividing up our inventory

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

20-25 games---NBC/NBC-Sports

20-25 games---ABC/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU

The rest---CBS-Sports or a streamer.

Thats how you get to 6-8 million a team.

Actually I believe this is how you get 8-10 million per team.

The most likely scenario is we sell more football to one {30 games} than the other {20 games}. The first deal would be light on bball. The second one will have more basketball.




Deal Z: 4-5 million

30 football games (1st and 3rd pick each week)
Conference Championship football
50 basketball games (3rd and 4th pick)
1st pick women's basketball games

OTA network and their sports channels or ESPN. This deal would fit best with NBC, 1 OTA game a week, 1 NBC sports game. Basketball OTA option if it's a good one, NBC sports for the other games.



Deal Y: 3-4 million

20 football games (2nd pick)
70 basketball games (1st and 2nd pick)
Basketball conference tourny
Baseball

OTA network and their sports channels or ESPN. This is the one for ESPN. They will bid a little less then what they did last deal but come away with similar content and as far as ESPN/2/News/U is concerned they'll basically be the same as this year. ESPN also dumps the conferences digital production. This is also a likely target for CBS or NBC if they are outbid on the Deal Z. Basketball would sit nicely with cbs' programming already, solid football for their sports network. Baseball is a solid filler for content.




Deal X: 1 million or less

10 football games (4th pick)
30 basketball games (5th pick)
1st pick of Olympic sports
Remaining women's basketball

Digital network or ESPN/CBSsn/NBCsports filler for the networks who need content.



Deal W: Returned to schools

12 football games
42 basketball games
Any women basketball games not picked, any Olympic sports left

Some schools will make some money off of these but it will probably vary a good deal. Local broadcasts, digital, school networks.
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RE: [split] AAC TV proposal
(02-01-2018 12:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 12:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 11:33 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  We won't be signing a single network deal, we will be dividing up our inventory

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

20-25 games---NBC/NBC-Sports

20-25 games---ABC/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU

The rest---CBS-Sports or a streamer.

Thats how you get to 6-8 million a team.

Actually I believe this is how you get 8-10 million per team.

The most likely scenario is we sell more football to one {30 games} than the other {20 games}. The first deal would be light on bball. The second one will have more basketball.




Deal Z: 4-5 million

30 football games (1st and 3rd pick each week)
Conference Championship football
50 basketball games (3rd and 4th pick)
1st pick women's basketball games

OTA network and their sports channels or ESPN. This deal would fit best with NBC, 1 OTA game a week, 1 NBC sports game. Basketball OTA option if it's a good one, NBC sports for the other games.



Deal Y: 3-4 million

20 football games (2nd pick)
70 basketball games (1st and 2nd pick)
Basketball conference tourny
Baseball

OTA network and their sports channels or ESPN. This is the one for ESPN. They will bid a little less then what they did last deal but come away with similar content and as far as ESPN/2/News/U is concerned they'll basically be the same as this year. ESPN also dumps the conferences digital production. This is also a likely target for CBS or NBC if they are outbid on the Deal Z. Basketball would sit nicely with cbs' programming already, solid football for their sports network. Baseball is a solid filler for content.




Deal X: 1 million or less

10 football games (4th pick)
30 basketball games (5th pick)
1st pick of Olympic sports
Remaining women's basketball

Digital network or ESPN/CBSsn/NBCsports filler for the networks who need content.



Deal W: Returned to schools

12 football games
42 basketball games
Any women basketball games not picked, any Olympic sports left

Some schools will make some money off of these but it will probably vary a good deal. Local broadcasts, digital, school networks.

We'll see. Im basing my number of the recent MLS Soccer and Premier League (US rights only) media deals. MLS Soccer has ratings that are actually below AAC ratings. Premier ratings are generally similar to slightly superior to AAC ratings. MLS has a 75 million deal (split between 3 networks) and Premier US rights are owned by NBC for 160 million. 75 million = 6.25 per team. The 160 million dollar Premier contract would indicate 13 million per AAC team. So anywhere in that range is not totally unreasonable---but given that the cord cutting has put some pressure on the networks---and given our current valuation is just 2 million per team---Ive leaned toward the lower end of that range.
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RE: [split] AAC TV proposal
Stumbled across this article from mid-2017. I usually catch his stuff, but I must have missed this one. That said, its uncanny how much his expectation sounds exactly like what many of us have been suggesting. Matt's been following this stuff for quite some time and is pretty knowledgeable in the college TV space, so his opinion is worth checking out.

http://mattsarzsports.blogspot.com/2017/...ights.html
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ESPN is becoming more trash every year...even if it’s less money offered I would love our primary network to be NBC and think it would pay off in the long run. I have trouble listening to any half time, pre game shows, and even many of the commentators on ESPN. For the sake of the fans, give me a network that knows how to produce good sports coverage.

ESPN can have the Wichita basketball games!
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(02-05-2018 08:58 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  ESPN is becoming more trash every year...even if it’s less money offered I would love our primary network to be NBC and think it would pay off in the long run. I have trouble listening to any half time, pre game shows, and even many of the commentators on ESPN. For the sake of the fans, give me a network that knows how to produce good sports coverage.

ESPN can have the Wichita basketball games!

I get the anger towards ESPN... But why offer ESPN one of AAC's better products just b/c we're unhappy with them.

I've been saying it for nearly 4 ever... This is a stud league and tv networks know about this league's impressive tv ratings.

That being said, current AAC tv rating results should only make Mike Aresco's life in the negotiations world that much more entertaining and probably even help him sleep better at night.

$$8 million - $$10 million per for the AAC would be the number I will settle for anything less simply get up and walk away.
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(02-06-2018 12:25 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 08:58 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  ESPN is becoming more trash every year...even if it’s less money offered I would love our primary network to be NBC and think it would pay off in the long run. I have trouble listening to any half time, pre game shows, and even many of the commentators on ESPN. For the sake of the fans, give me a network that knows how to produce good sports coverage.

ESPN can have the Wichita basketball games!

I get the anger towards ESPN... But why offer ESPN one of AAC's better products just b/c we're unhappy with them.

I've been saying it for nearly 4 ever... This is a stud league and tv networks know about this league's impressive tv ratings.

That being said, current AAC tv rating results should only make Mike Aresco's life in the negotiations world that much more entertaining and probably even help him sleep better at night.

$$8 million - $$10 million per for the AAC would be the number I will settle for anything less simply get up and walk away.

I was just kidding about Wichita. As a fan, I’m hoping another network gets our tier 1 games.
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(02-01-2018 02:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 12:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 12:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 11:33 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  We won't be signing a single network deal, we will be dividing up our inventory

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

20-25 games---NBC/NBC-Sports

20-25 games---ABC/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU

The rest---CBS-Sports or a streamer.

Thats how you get to 6-8 million a team.

Actually I believe this is how you get 8-10 million per team.

The most likely scenario is we sell more football to one {30 games} than the other {20 games}. The first deal would be light on bball. The second one will have more basketball.




Deal Z: 4-5 million

30 football games (1st and 3rd pick each week)
Conference Championship football
50 basketball games (3rd and 4th pick)
1st pick women's basketball games

OTA network and their sports channels or ESPN. This deal would fit best with NBC, 1 OTA game a week, 1 NBC sports game. Basketball OTA option if it's a good one, NBC sports for the other games.



Deal Y: 3-4 million

20 football games (2nd pick)
70 basketball games (1st and 2nd pick)
Basketball conference tourny
Baseball

OTA network and their sports channels or ESPN. This is the one for ESPN. They will bid a little less then what they did last deal but come away with similar content and as far as ESPN/2/News/U is concerned they'll basically be the same as this year. ESPN also dumps the conferences digital production. This is also a likely target for CBS or NBC if they are outbid on the Deal Z. Basketball would sit nicely with cbs' programming already, solid football for their sports network. Baseball is a solid filler for content.




Deal X: 1 million or less

10 football games (4th pick)
30 basketball games (5th pick)
1st pick of Olympic sports
Remaining women's basketball

Digital network or ESPN/CBSsn/NBCsports filler for the networks who need content.



Deal W: Returned to schools

12 football games
42 basketball games
Any women basketball games not picked, any Olympic sports left

Some schools will make some money off of these but it will probably vary a good deal. Local broadcasts, digital, school networks.

We'll see. Im basing my number of the recent MLS Soccer and Premier League (US rights only) media deals. MLS Soccer has ratings that are actually below AAC ratings. Premier ratings are generally similar to slightly superior to AAC ratings. MLS has a 75 million deal (split between 3 networks) and Premier US rights are owned by NBC for 160 million. 75 million = 6.25 per team. The 160 million dollar Premier contract would indicate 13 million per AAC team. So anywhere in that range is not totally unreasonable---but given that the cord cutting has put some pressure on the networks---and given our current valuation is just 2 million per team---Ive leaned toward the lower end of that range.

Being honest I would be thrilled with $6 million each. We just don't have a national brand (at least yet) to drive ratings for everyone. $6 million would give us a huge separation with g4 which is what I want to see. Get us a few million more for the budgets, good exposure, and have whichever network promote the P6 narrative.
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The new streaming ESPN Plus will cost $4.99 a month.

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https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/6/169818...lease-date

"Unfortunately, ESPN Plus will not contain access to SportsCenter or to live ESPN channels, as Iger says Disney will not make ESPN Plus available unless you’re a “traditional or non-traditional” subscriber of standard ESPN."
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