(02-22-2018 03:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:40 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I think you and the sheriff may be overselling this a tad.

First, it's one class in Ohio. Not classes across the country. And he doesn't specifically say anywhere whether the 200 are all teachers. Only that he reserved 50 spots for teachers. Additionally, he says they've "reached 200 interests". Does that mean 200 people have just expressed an interest...or does that mean 200 have actually enrolled?

whoever said anything about classes across the country?

Read the thread title. Teachers aren't flooding CCW classes.

In W. Chester yes. Why would assume USA?

AGAIN, based on what has been sourced here so far, it's one class in one state and we don't even have any official word on how many teachers have actually enrolled in the class.

200 people is now a flood. I guess that explains Trump's descriptions of his inauguration crowds.

(02-22-2018 03:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Don't know if any recent polling has been done, but in a survey after Sandy Hook, teachers weren't looking to arm themselves any time soon. Maybe it's changed...I doubt it.

Quote:America’s educators resoundingly reject the notion of arming school employees. Only 22 percent of NEA members polled favor a proposal to allow teachers and other school employees to receive firearms training and allow them to carry firearms in schools, while 68 percent oppose this proposal (including 61 percent who strongly oppose it.)

http://neatoday.org/2013/01/15/nea-poll-...iolence-2/

It is up to the individual school systems, the executives.

What does that have to do with the opinion of teachers? I doubt any school system would attempt to force teachers to carry a gun.

The teachers don't get to decide if a school allows CCW or uniform armed security. Their opinion is meaningless.

(02-22-2018 03:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:40 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  whoever said anything about classes across the country?

Read the thread title. Teachers aren't flooding CCW classes.

In W. Chester yes. Why would assume USA?

AGAIN, based on what has been sourced here so far, it's one class in one state and we don't even have any official word on how many teachers have actually enrolled in the class.

200 people is now a flood. I guess that explains Trump's descriptions of his inauguration crowds.

And his "man" hood!

(02-22-2018 03:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:40 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  whoever said anything about classes across the country?

Read the thread title. Teachers aren't flooding CCW classes.

In W. Chester yes. Why would assume USA?

AGAIN, based on what has been sourced here so far, it's one class in one state and we don't even have any official word on how many teachers have actually enrolled in the class.

200 people is now a flood. I guess that explains Trump's descriptions of his inauguration crowds.

More solutions from the left! You guys are doing something congrats make us proud!

(02-22-2018 03:34 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Don't know if any recent polling has been done, but in a survey after Sandy Hook, teachers weren't looking to arm themselves any time soon. Maybe it's changed...I doubt it.

Quote:America’s educators resoundingly reject the notion of arming school employees. Only 22 percent of NEA members polled favor a proposal to allow teachers and other school employees to receive firearms training and allow them to carry firearms in schools, while 68 percent oppose this proposal (including 61 percent who strongly oppose it.)

http://neatoday.org/2013/01/15/nea-poll-...iolence-2/

It is up to the individual school systems, the executives.

What does that have to do with the opinion of teachers? I doubt any school system would attempt to force teachers to carry a gun.

The teachers don't get to decide if a school allows CCW or uniform armed security. Their opinion is meaningless.

Signed, NRA

But the point you're missing is that the majority of teachers don't want to carry guns...and likely aren't about to be flooding CCW classes.

(02-22-2018 03:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 02:40 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  whoever said anything about classes across the country?

Read the thread title. Teachers aren't flooding CCW classes.

In W. Chester yes. Why would assume USA?

AGAIN, based on what has been sourced here so far, it's one class in one state and we don't even have any official word on how many teachers have actually enrolled in the class.

200 people is now a flood. I guess that explains Trump's descriptions of his inauguration crowds.

according to the dictionary, an overflow is a flood... so yes, 200 people for 50 spots, its a flood.

(02-22-2018 03:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:34 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Don't know if any recent polling has been done, but in a survey after Sandy Hook, teachers weren't looking to arm themselves any time soon. Maybe it's changed...I doubt it.

http://neatoday.org/2013/01/15/nea-poll-...iolence-2/

It is up to the individual school systems, the executives.

What does that have to do with the opinion of teachers? I doubt any school system would attempt to force teachers to carry a gun.

The teachers don't get to decide if a school allows CCW or uniform armed security. Their opinion is meaningless.

Signed, NRA

But the point you're missing is that the majority of teachers don't want to carry guns...and likely aren't about to be flooding CCW classes.

A school doesn't need the majority of teachers willing to do it, jeez.

I guess when all one has is to argue semantics, one runs with it.

School vouchers and tax breaks. No more mega schools. Parents get to send their kids to schools they ascertain to be safe. The government has failed us once again on multiple levels. The answer is not giving up our freedoms but allowing us to exert our freedoms.

Last I remember, that county the West Chester school district is in (Butler) leans heavily to the Republican side (so this possible action doesn't surprise me).

The school district or county board would have to approve it, I assume.

Funny, Hamilton county (includes Cincinnati), just to the south, leans left. Their county or local School Districts probably wouldn't go for something like this.

Since schools have unique financial constraints, I like the idea. The biggest issue I see is coordinating any action with local authorities once they arrive on the scene to prevent mass chaos with who is shooting at whom.

Sad to see, but I remember more than a few people "back in the day" telling me the same type situations that take place in the Middle East would eventually make their way to Europe and the US, even if the underlying issues might be different.

(02-22-2018 04:05 PM)Topkat Wrote:  Last I remember, that county the West Chester school district is in (Butler) leans heavily to the Republican side (so this possible action doesn't surprise me).

The school district or county board would have to approve it, I assume.

Funny, Hamilton county (includes Cincinnati), just to the south, leans left. Their county or local School Districts probably wouldn't go for something like this.

Since schools have unique financial constraints, I like the idea. The biggest issue I see is coordinating any action with local authorities once they arrive on the scene to prevent mass chaos with who is shooting at whom.

Sad to see, but I remember more than a few people "back in the day" telling me the same type situations that take place in the Middle East would eventually make their way to Europe and the US, even if the underlying issues might be different.

I heard that about 100 school districts in Ohio with armed employees that have been disclosed, and disclosure isn't a requirement. Sidney schools up by Dayton have 40 employees packing. I bet there are school systems in Hamilton County with Teachers carrying.

(02-22-2018 03:39 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:34 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:27 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  It is up to the individual school systems, the executives.

What does that have to do with the opinion of teachers? I doubt any school system would attempt to force teachers to carry a gun.

The teachers don't get to decide if a school allows CCW or uniform armed security. Their opinion is meaningless.

Signed, NRA

But the point you're missing is that the majority of teachers don't want to carry guns...and likely aren't about to be flooding CCW classes.

A school doesn't need the majority of teachers willing to do it, jeez.

Nobody said it did. But again, they can put in all the policies they want, but I can pretty much guarantee you no school district will EVER have a majority of their teachers willingly be armed. They'd never find enough qualified staff.

(02-22-2018 04:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:05 PM)Topkat Wrote:  Last I remember, that county the West Chester school district is in (Butler) leans heavily to the Republican side (so this possible action doesn't surprise me).

The school district or county board would have to approve it, I assume.

Funny, Hamilton county (includes Cincinnati), just to the south, leans left. Their county or local School Districts probably wouldn't go for something like this.

Since schools have unique financial constraints, I like the idea. The biggest issue I see is coordinating any action with local authorities once they arrive on the scene to prevent mass chaos with who is shooting at whom.

Sad to see, but I remember more than a few people "back in the day" telling me the same type situations that take place in the Middle East would eventually make their way to Europe and the US, even if the underlying issues might be different.

I heard that about 100 school districts in Ohio with armed employees that have been disclosed, and disclosure isn't a requirement. Sidney schools up by Dayton have 40 employees packing. I bet there are school systems in Hamilton County with Teachers carrying.

Weren't their armed guards or personnel at the school in Florida that just got shot up?

(02-22-2018 04:05 PM)Topkat Wrote:  Last I remember, that county the West Chester school district is in (Butler) leans heavily to the Republican side (so this possible action doesn't surprise me).

The school district or county board would have to approve it, I assume.

Funny, Hamilton county (includes Cincinnati), just to the south, leans left. Their county or local School Districts probably wouldn't go for something like this.

Since schools have unique financial constraints, I like the idea. The biggest issue I see is coordinating any action with local authorities once they arrive on the scene to prevent mass chaos with who is shooting at whom.

Sad to see, but I remember more than a few people "back in the day" telling me the same type situations that take place in the Middle East would eventually make their way to Europe and the US, even if the underlying issues might be different.

ding...ding...ding!

Herein lies the problem.

And also this...

Quote:In September 2014 at Idaho State University, a teacher accidentally shot himself in the foot when his concealed handgun discharged. Students in the chemistry class watched.

Later that month at a Utah elementary school, a teacher carrying a concealed weapon accidentally shot herself in the leg as she used the restroom.

In 2016, a group of elementary school students in Pennsylvania found a loaded gun in the bathroom after a teacher accidentally left it behind.

(02-22-2018 04:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:05 PM)Topkat Wrote:  Last I remember, that county the West Chester school district is in (Butler) leans heavily to the Republican side (so this possible action doesn't surprise me).

The school district or county board would have to approve it, I assume.

Funny, Hamilton county (includes Cincinnati), just to the south, leans left. Their county or local School Districts probably wouldn't go for something like this.

Since schools have unique financial constraints, I like the idea. The biggest issue I see is coordinating any action with local authorities once they arrive on the scene to prevent mass chaos with who is shooting at whom.

Sad to see, but I remember more than a few people "back in the day" telling me the same type situations that take place in the Middle East would eventually make their way to Europe and the US, even if the underlying issues might be different.

I heard that about 100 school districts in Ohio with armed employees that have been disclosed, and disclosure isn't a requirement. Sidney schools up by Dayton have 40 employees packing. I bet there are school systems in Hamilton County with Teachers carrying.

Weren't their armed guards or personnel at the school in Florida that just got shot up?

Never head that. I think that would have been a headline.

(02-22-2018 03:38 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Read the thread title. Teachers aren't flooding CCW classes.

In W. Chester yes. Why would assume USA?

AGAIN, based on what has been sourced here so far, it's one class in one state and we don't even have any official word on how many teachers have actually enrolled in the class.

200 people is now a flood. I guess that explains Trump's descriptions of his inauguration crowds.

according to the dictionary, an overflow is a flood... so yes, 200 people for 50 spots, its a flood.

So 2 people fighting for 1 spot is a flood. Gotcha.

(02-22-2018 04:40 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:38 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  In W. Chester yes. Why would assume USA?

AGAIN, based on what has been sourced here so far, it's one class in one state and we don't even have any official word on how many teachers have actually enrolled in the class.

200 people is now a flood. I guess that explains Trump's descriptions of his inauguration crowds.

according to the dictionary, an overflow is a flood... so yes, 200 people for 50 spots, its a flood.

So 2 people fighting for 1 spot is a flood. Gotcha.

#MuhCommonCoreMath...

(02-22-2018 04:31 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:05 PM)Topkat Wrote:  Last I remember, that county the West Chester school district is in (Butler) leans heavily to the Republican side (so this possible action doesn't surprise me).

The school district or county board would have to approve it, I assume.

Funny, Hamilton county (includes Cincinnati), just to the south, leans left. Their county or local School Districts probably wouldn't go for something like this.

Since schools have unique financial constraints, I like the idea. The biggest issue I see is coordinating any action with local authorities once they arrive on the scene to prevent mass chaos with who is shooting at whom.

Sad to see, but I remember more than a few people "back in the day" telling me the same type situations that take place in the Middle East would eventually make their way to Europe and the US, even if the underlying issues might be different.

I heard that about 100 school districts in Ohio with armed employees that have been disclosed, and disclosure isn't a requirement. Sidney schools up by Dayton have 40 employees packing. I bet there are school systems in Hamilton County with Teachers carrying.

Weren't their armed guards or personnel at the school in Florida that just got shot up?

Never head that. I think that would have been a headline.

So it is...

Armed security guard at Florida school never encountered gunman during deadly rampage

(02-22-2018 04:42 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:40 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:38 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  AGAIN, based on what has been sourced here so far, it's one class in one state and we don't even have any official word on how many teachers have actually enrolled in the class.

200 people is now a flood. I guess that explains Trump's descriptions of his inauguration crowds.

according to the dictionary, an overflow is a flood... so yes, 200 people for 50 spots, its a flood.

So 2 people fighting for 1 spot is a flood. Gotcha.

#MuhCommonCoreMath...

MuhCommonCoreRidiculousExaggeration

(02-22-2018 04:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:05 PM)Topkat Wrote:  Last I remember, that county the West Chester school district is in (Butler) leans heavily to the Republican side (so this possible action doesn't surprise me).

The school district or county board would have to approve it, I assume.

Funny, Hamilton county (includes Cincinnati), just to the south, leans left. Their county or local School Districts probably wouldn't go for something like this.

Since schools have unique financial constraints, I like the idea. The biggest issue I see is coordinating any action with local authorities once they arrive on the scene to prevent mass chaos with who is shooting at whom.

Sad to see, but I remember more than a few people "back in the day" telling me the same type situations that take place in the Middle East would eventually make their way to Europe and the US, even if the underlying issues might be different.

I heard that about 100 school districts in Ohio with armed employees that have been disclosed, and disclosure isn't a requirement. Sidney schools up by Dayton have 40 employees packing. I bet there are school systems in Hamilton County with Teachers carrying.

Interesting, was not aware of that.

The problem you have now is teachers know first responders can't get to the school fast enough.

I would think most teachers who feel comfortable enough with guns would rather face any possible legal ramifications afterward than be caught in a shooters sights (much less see the kids getting caught in someone's sights), where there is nothing they can do if not armed.

Sad part is, if they get some legal blowback afterward, it would probably depend on the political lean of the judge as to what might be ruled.

Don't know.