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RE: 66 million ye armageddon graveyard found in ND
(04-06-2019 08:13 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (04-06-2019 09:32 AM)king king Wrote: (04-05-2019 11:33 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (04-05-2019 09:38 PM)king king Wrote: I have given no explanation of anything I believe or disbelieve so don't put words in my mouth or impart meaning.
If you believe that meaning isn't lost when languages are translated, I'll stand on my 27 years of being bilingual as proof that they are. All of them.
Still waiting on your explanation for ALL the prehuman humanoids.
Well you are welcome to any hypothetical theory you want, but the facts totally contradict what you are saying and anyone can examine those translations for themselves, Word by word, line by line. Hundreds of thousand of scholars have for many centuries now. The Bible stands the test of time and accuracy. Its literally the most studied, scrutinized and verified book in human history. You can pretend otherwise based on your own imagination, but the facts and evidence are all against you. Your entire argument is based on blind assumptions of fantasy scenarios where you imagine a word can be mistranslated and since that is not 100% impossible then that means the Bible is corrupted, highly questionable and can't be proven. Its not like you have actually studied then text and came to this conclusion, its just a fantasy scenario you are trying to disguise as a factual argument. Like I have said, if you have seriously studied the Bible and the NT, you would know its specifically written to get around language barriers by repeating the same key doctrines over and over and over again from book to book to book. When something is explained using differing words 20 different times in 20 different books and chapters, it tends to eliminate petty arguments about translation over a specific word.
Its interesting how you demand I explain a dozen different things in every single thread and you never explain or answer anything. You work very hard to dodge all direct questions and keep your own views and beliefs secret for argument sake.
Its time YOU explain/answer something. Are you a Christian or not because your comments here strongly suggest you are are not and do not believe in the bible. If God created time, space and the entire universe, how can He NOT have the ability to keep His promises about His Word being preserved for all generations?
That sounds like a very sloppy and limited God you believe in. If you believe in one at all.
Well you've made the claim that it was directly translated into the KJV version - so from the original Hebrew to Ancient Greek to Latin to English, correct? And you think there was nothing lost in translation? You accept at face value these things for which you have zero way of knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt are true when it comes to the words of the Bible as they appear to you in the English language but disagree with science when it tells you there is no way dinos and humans walked the earth together.
In your example where it talks about the "behemoth" in Job, if you go look the Hebrew word can also mean simply "beast". There is all kind of inference that has to go into that passage to land on dinosaur. And that's the problem, imo, is that the Bible as we've received it is open to interpretation along the way simply from having come through at least three other translations.
I'm a Christian. I believe PURELY on faith alone that Jesus lived, died, and rose again to provide a pathway for me to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. But there is zero tangible proof he even lived. There is zero tangible proof there is a God. There is zero proof that anything other than man wrote the Bible. Because of that I continuously question everything.
Why is it that there are Neanderthals? Or Denisovans? Or homo species predating man? For that matter, why is there a boundary of ash at a precise depth that covers the entire planet and that can mathematically be matched to the time when the Chixulub crater was made by the asteroid that wiped out the dinos? Why, if man was created on the sixth day and the heavens were created on the first day, can light from 13.5 billion years ago be detected? Wouldn't man also need to be 13.5 billion minus six days old for that to be true?
I'm a natural skeptic. I also allow for there being things I cannot and do not know. I've heard that voice in my head that is not me that assures me I am on the right or wrong path. I've done lots of other things that allow me to relax into the belief that there is a God, however it's purely belief and faith. There is no proof.
Being learned in the Bible to a much greater degree than anyone else on this board, I'd expect that you'd proffer your knowledge about it when people ask. Unless you're just one of "those" Christians.
So, again, please explain to me what God says about other species of humanoids in His book.
Another point I'd like to posit - if God is perfect and never messes up why would He ever have needed to wipe the Earth clean of everything and start over again? Why would there ever need to be a Lucifer? Why evil if it is anathema to God? Those are rhetorical questions but I'm using them to ask you how can God be perfect if those things happened and/or exist?
You can't have "faith" in Jesus AND question if any of its even real my man, those two things are a TOTAL CONTRADICTION.
Your own words prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you do NOT believe in Jesus as your Lord and savoir. If you had spent any time reading the bible (You so CLEARLY have not) you would have know its impossible to have faith and salvation in Christ and question and doubt everything about it.
You can feign 1000 levels of outrage and offense over that, but the fact is its Christianity 101. If you would simply open the NT and read it for yourself you would know this. You have created your own definition of faith, one that allows you to say you are a believer, but doubt everything, claim there is zero proof at all, live your life any way you see fit, and relentless troll and attack anyone who dares share the word of God or biblical doctrine. You even take it a step further and openly question God, question His abilities, question His intentions even to the point of mocking Him.
In short, you are not a Christian at all, you are a person who simply wants to pretend to be a Christian because you think it will enhance your arguments and attacks on Christianity and the bible by claiming to be one as you relentlessly attack and mock it with gleeful intensity. YOU ARE NOT FOOLING ANYONE. As Christ said, we will know you by your fruits.
Your arguments about Behemoth and animal are about as laughable as it gets and perfectly illustrate my point. Its changes NOTHING if you use the word Behemoth or animal, because we are talking about a giant animal that the text gives a full chapter of details on its size, shape, feeding habits and everything else. Whether you use the word behemoth or animal has no bearing on anything and changes NOTHING about the chapter or the message on any level at all. NOTHING is lost, no matter if you use Behemoth or Animal.
The text was CLEARLY designed in such a manner to remove such issues and get the key doctrines across even through translation.
You have yet to put forth a single argument or example that disproves that fact, and the obvious truth is you can't. You wouldn't even know where to look in the first place.
An no, I am not changing the subject to cavemen just so you can run and hide from your "translation" arguments. There is a ton of info on the net about how cave men and other "species" of early man fit into the 6000 year biblical framework. You can google them and research them yourself.
What I want from you are concrete examples where translations in the KJB radically changed Christian doctrines or Christianity. If you can't show that then your arguments about translation making the bible meaningless are totally debunked by your own lack of evidence. I already know your argument is total fantasy, because I have spent thousands of hours study the text in both languages. You have not spent even 5 minutes of your life doing so. You are just creating fantasy arguments out of thin air.
You just made my point. The key doctrines are repeated over and over. There is a beauty and consistency in the Bible. God created Earth and man is a key doctrine. The rest can be true without needing to be literally true.
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