(06-22-2019 08:40 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:45 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I wouldn’t be shocked if they stood pat and pocketed $600k more per school.

Provided ESPN allows it. If so, you have hit the nail on the head.

Who knows if it’s true but I saw an aac fan post that they negotiated with espn that the money wouldn’t change if schools left.

(06-22-2019 08:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:33 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  If Army decides not to join then it will most like be Marshall or Southern Miss. Next possibilities are either UAB or ODU. JMO.

Marshall is not in the hunt. We will make a hell of a case and put up one helluva fight, but in the end, it comes down to numbers. The only thing we can hope for is that ESPN and the AAC presidents value our brand and can forgive our small budget and lack of ability to increase it. Marshall just cAnt go from 30 mil to 45+.

We just dont fit the model. I hope im wrong.

Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

You seem to take this **** seriously like someone else cant see it different than you.

Could you explain these to me?

1. Big time improvements in facilities.
2. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.
3. Lots of alumni in Florida.

#3 How many is a lot? Why does that matter?

#1 Other than a large football stadium..notice I didnt add anything but large. Explain to me the Big time improvements in facilities.

#2 As for basketball attendance how much of that is because of cheap discounted tickets? Before you try to make a point of they are not cheap or discounted prices.

going by the football attendance and the dollars made off all tickets sold...the basketball attendance does add up to the bottom line.


If A long history with any member of the AAC mattered S. Miss and UAB would be in the AAC

WKU doesnt even compare to Marshall in any aspect.

Our basketball attendance would be 4th highest in the AAC. We sold out of every single season ticket this year so none of that was "discounted tickets."

We are a pretty decent TV market and actually control that market.

WKU averages 14k/game in football......

(06-22-2019 09:12 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:40 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:45 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I wouldn’t be shocked if they stood pat and pocketed $600k more per school.

Provided ESPN allows it. If so, you have hit the nail on the head.

Who knows if it’s true but I saw an aac fan post that they negotiated with espn that the money wouldn’t change if schools left.

That is true from everything I have read.

Obviously top choices are BYU/Army but I don't think either will want to join.

I have also read from multiple different sources that Aresco wants an all sports member so that also limits things.

Don't forget they could always add someone from the West and slide Memphis in to the Eastern division.

(06-22-2019 09:19 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:12 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:40 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:45 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I wouldn’t be shocked if they stood pat and pocketed $600k more per school.

Provided ESPN allows it. If so, you have hit the nail on the head.

Who knows if it’s true but I saw an aac fan post that they negotiated with espn that the money wouldn’t change if schools left.

That is true from everything I have read.

Obviously top choices are BYU/Army but I don't think either will want to join.

I have also read from multiple different sources that Aresco wants an all sports member so that also limits things.

Don't forget they could always add someone from the West and slide Memphis in to the Eastern division.

I think Navy moving to the East would be more logical, but it is their conference and they can do what they want.

(06-22-2019 07:02 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  I sure hope it's USM!!!

I concur.

One way or another this will start the time bomb that will result in this thing imploding and the merfer or redividing with the belt to occur. They ones left behind will likely get rid of judy.
I see this as a win for everyone

(06-22-2019 09:26 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:19 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:12 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:40 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:45 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I wouldn’t be shocked if they stood pat and pocketed $600k more per school.

Provided ESPN allows it. If so, you have hit the nail on the head.

Who knows if it’s true but I saw an aac fan post that they negotiated with espn that the money wouldn’t change if schools left.

That is true from everything I have read.

Obviously top choices are BYU/Army but I don't think either will want to join.

I have also read from multiple different sources that Aresco wants an all sports member so that also limits things.

Don't forget they could always add someone from the West and slide Memphis in to the Eastern division.

I think Navy moving to the East would be more logical, but it is their conference and they can do what they want.

Navy prefers the West to play a more national type of schedule. I thought it was weird as well but that's what they prefer. I think its also to play in the same division as the smaller private schools such as SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, etc.

If Marshall isn't selected it sure would suck to lose So Miss but they deserve it and I would be happy for them.

UAB is a tier one research university with a defending conference championship football team, will be moving dirt on a brand new stadium in less than a month, and is in the top college football market in the country.

You know, while we're measuring *****.

(06-22-2019 10:09 PM)Smaug Wrote:  UAB is a tier one research university with a defending conference championship football team, will be moving dirt on a brand new stadium in less than a month, and is in the top college football market in the country.

You know, while we're measuring dicks.

UAB also deserves a shot imo. You also have a lot of history with the existing schools. I would be happy for UAB if you all got the invite as well.

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:33 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  If Army decides not to join then it will most like be Marshall or Southern Miss. Next possibilities are either UAB or ODU. JMO.

Marshall is not in the hunt. We will make a hell of a case and put up one helluva fight, but in the end, it comes down to numbers. The only thing we can hope for is that ESPN and the AAC presidents value our brand and can forgive our small budget and lack of ability to increase it. Marshall just cAnt go from 30 mil to 45+.

We just dont fit the model. I hope im wrong.

Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

And you have no clue how things work. That is obvious in many of your posts. Geography is the probably the last factor that matters. It doesnt matter if we are in Covington KY if we cant stay on par with AAC budgets. Have you even looked at that? Why do you think we were passed over the first time? Let me educate you:

1. Enrollment (Don't count the Private Schools to fit your argument)
2. Budget. ODU is the only one that is in the ballpark of the AAC and even then, they are toward the bottom
3. Metro area - generally
4. Academics. Yes, we recently were granted R2 status, but you do realize they relaxed the standards, right?
5. Non q’s are gone if we go to the AAC (yes, i know the term has changed)

So, Captain Condescension, how, prey tell, do you predict us to be compete in the AAC? So...

Ive been here since 2000, so YOU go somewhere else. In case you haven't noticed, I’m a pretty well respected person around these parts...and not just on this board.

That doesn't come from being a horse’s rectum and throwing a tantrum when someone disagrees with me as you have done. It comes from being able to have a discussion...especially with fans of the same program... even if we disagree.

So, I suggest you stop being such a trigglypuff and just enjoy different opinions and participate constructively instead of acting like an intolerant infant.

>mic drop<

If it’s not Army or BYU, then they’ll be looking for what would be perceived as a warm body with decent pockets. ODU could fit that criteria. In the end, if they take ODU or someone from CUSA, I hope the SB goes after 2 of Marshall, UAB, ODU, or USM (whichever isn’t taken by AAC). If successful, CUSA would then have to make the decision to stay at 11 or add 1...possibly JMU, Liberty, or someone from the SBC. Of course all of this assumes that Army or BYU doesn’t want into the AAC.

(06-22-2019 10:12 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:33 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  If Army decides not to join then it will most like be Marshall or Southern Miss. Next possibilities are either UAB or ODU. JMO.

Marshall is not in the hunt. We will make a hell of a case and put up one helluva fight, but in the end, it comes down to numbers. The only thing we can hope for is that ESPN and the AAC presidents value our brand and can forgive our small budget and lack of ability to increase it. Marshall just cAnt go from 30 mil to 45+.

We just dont fit the model. I hope im wrong.

Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

And you have no clue how things work. That is obvious in many of your posts. Geography is the probably the last factor that matters. It doesnt matter if we are in Covington KY if we cant stay on par with AAC budgets. Have you even looked at that? Why do you think we were passed over the first time? Let me educate you:

1. Enrollment (Don't count the Private Schools to fit your argument)
2. Budget. ODU is the only one that is in the ballpark of the AAC and even then, they are toward the bottom
3. Metro area - generally
4. Academics. Yes, we recently were granted R2 status, but you do realize they relaxed the standards, right?
5. Non q’s are gone if we go to the AAC (yes, i know the term has changed)

So, Captain Condescension, how, prey tell, do you predict us to be compete in the AAC? So...

Ive been here since 2000, so YOU go somewhere else. In case you haven't noticed, I’m a pretty well respected person around these parts...and not just on this board.

That doesn't come from being a horse’s rectum and throwing a tantrum when someone disagrees with me as you have done. It comes from being able to have a discussion...especially with fans of the same program... even if we disagree.

So, I suggest you stop being such a trigglypuff and just enjoy different opinions and participate constructively instead of acting like an intolerant infant.

>mic drop<

ODU and their tiny stadium and 1 winning season in football....yeah ok.

I now remember why you are banned from all the Marshall message boards lol

(06-22-2019 10:15 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:12 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:33 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  If Army decides not to join then it will most like be Marshall or Southern Miss. Next possibilities are either UAB or ODU. JMO.

Marshall is not in the hunt. We will make a hell of a case and put up one helluva fight, but in the end, it comes down to numbers. The only thing we can hope for is that ESPN and the AAC presidents value our brand and can forgive our small budget and lack of ability to increase it. Marshall just cAnt go from 30 mil to 45+.

We just dont fit the model. I hope im wrong.

Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

And you have no clue how things work. That is obvious in many of your posts. Geography is the probably the last factor that matters. It doesnt matter if we are in Covington KY if we cant stay on par with AAC budgets. Have you even looked at that? Why do you think we were passed over the first time? Let me educate you:

1. Enrollment (Don't count the Private Schools to fit your argument)
2. Budget. ODU is the only one that is in the ballpark of the AAC and even then, they are toward the bottom
3. Metro area - generally
4. Academics. Yes, we recently were granted R2 status, but you do realize they relaxed the standards, right?
5. Non q’s are gone if we go to the AAC (yes, i know the term has changed)

So, Captain Condescension, how, prey tell, do you predict us to be compete in the AAC? So...

Ive been here since 2000, so YOU go somewhere else. In case you haven't noticed, I’m a pretty well respected person around these parts...and not just on this board.

That doesn't come from being a horse’s rectum and throwing a tantrum when someone disagrees with me as you have done. It comes from being able to have a discussion...especially with fans of the same program... even if we disagree.

So, I suggest you stop being such a trigglypuff and just enjoy different opinions and participate constructively instead of acting like an intolerant infant.

>mic drop<

ODU and their tiny stadium and 1 winning season in football....yeah ok.

I now remember why you are banned from all the Marshall message boards lol

Oh really? Thats funny. I was just on there today. Does THUNDERGround look familiar to you? Yeah.. thought so. Thats me. Now, I will be happy to deal with you further if you persist in your nonsense. Enough.

(06-22-2019 10:21 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:15 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:12 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Marshall is not in the hunt. We will make a hell of a case and put up one helluva fight, but in the end, it comes down to numbers. The only thing we can hope for is that ESPN and the AAC presidents value our brand and can forgive our small budget and lack of ability to increase it. Marshall just cAnt go from 30 mil to 45+.

We just dont fit the model. I hope im wrong.

Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

And you have no clue how things work. That is obvious in many of your posts. Geography is the probably the last factor that matters. It doesnt matter if we are in Covington KY if we cant stay on par with AAC budgets. Have you even looked at that? Why do you think we were passed over the first time? Let me educate you:

1. Enrollment (Don't count the Private Schools to fit your argument)
2. Budget. ODU is the only one that is in the ballpark of the AAC and even then, they are toward the bottom
3. Metro area - generally
4. Academics. Yes, we recently were granted R2 status, but you do realize they relaxed the standards, right?
5. Non q’s are gone if we go to the AAC (yes, i know the term has changed)

So, Captain Condescension, how, prey tell, do you predict us to be compete in the AAC? So...

Ive been here since 2000, so YOU go somewhere else. In case you haven't noticed, I’m a pretty well respected person around these parts...and not just on this board.

That doesn't come from being a horse’s rectum and throwing a tantrum when someone disagrees with me as you have done. It comes from being able to have a discussion...especially with fans of the same program... even if we disagree.

So, I suggest you stop being such a trigglypuff and just enjoy different opinions and participate constructively instead of acting like an intolerant infant.

>mic drop<

ODU and their tiny stadium and 1 winning season in football....yeah ok.

I now remember why you are banned from all the Marshall message boards lol

Oh really? Thats funny. I was just on there today. Does THUNDERGround look familiar to you? Yeah.. thought so. Thats me. Now, I will be happy to deal with you further if you persist in your nonsense. Enough.

My bad on the banned part. I had you confused with someone else.

As to everything else, you are just as clueless as the next person. Pessimistic but clueless.

Usm and Marshall are the only Cusa schools they will consider. Uab may get a sniff. Not one other school is in any conversation other than on message board nonsense

(06-22-2019 06:56 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Damn. I shoulda been a sports journalist. Seems easy and they probably make more than me too.

As a former sports journalist, I can say that only the biggest names make decent bank. It is not a profession for people who like money.

(06-22-2019 10:38 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  Usm and Marshall are the only Cusa schools they will consider. Uab may get a sniff. Not one other school is in any conversation other than on message board nonsense

EXACTLY!

Marshall/So Miss/UAB (no order) are only CUSA schools that have a real shot.

Everyone else needs to go lay down somewhere.


No Sun Belt team has a chance. No MAC team has a chance. No FCS team has a chance.

BYU is top choice if they can get them. Army is next best choice but don't see that happening either.

(06-22-2019 07:19 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  Im pretty sure it'll be ESPN who chooses who to replace them with. The AAC will go along with it because presumably ESPN will choose the school that does the least damage to the media deal.

Finally. Someone who understands what’s really going on.

My guess is Army football-only. If they say no, Air Force football-only. AFA would then put it’s other sports in Summit or WAC.

VCU to AAC for non-football sports.

(06-22-2019 10:36 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:21 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:15 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:12 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

And you have no clue how things work. That is obvious in many of your posts. Geography is the probably the last factor that matters. It doesnt matter if we are in Covington KY if we cant stay on par with AAC budgets. Have you even looked at that? Why do you think we were passed over the first time? Let me educate you:

1. Enrollment (Don't count the Private Schools to fit your argument)
2. Budget. ODU is the only one that is in the ballpark of the AAC and even then, they are toward the bottom
3. Metro area - generally
4. Academics. Yes, we recently were granted R2 status, but you do realize they relaxed the standards, right?
5. Non q’s are gone if we go to the AAC (yes, i know the term has changed)

So, Captain Condescension, how, prey tell, do you predict us to be compete in the AAC? So...

Ive been here since 2000, so YOU go somewhere else. In case you haven't noticed, I’m a pretty well respected person around these parts...and not just on this board.

That doesn't come from being a horse’s rectum and throwing a tantrum when someone disagrees with me as you have done. It comes from being able to have a discussion...especially with fans of the same program... even if we disagree.

So, I suggest you stop being such a trigglypuff and just enjoy different opinions and participate constructively instead of acting like an intolerant infant.

>mic drop<

ODU and their tiny stadium and 1 winning season in football....yeah ok.

I now remember why you are banned from all the Marshall message boards lol

Oh really? Thats funny. I was just on there today. Does THUNDERGround look familiar to you? Yeah.. thought so. Thats me. Now, I will be happy to deal with you further if you persist in your nonsense. Enough.

My bad on the banned part. I had you confused with someone else.

As to everything else, you are just as clueless as the next person. Pessimistic but clueless.

Yep. Your bad on just about anything you add here. Watch and see. Must be nice living in a soylent green world.

Oh, but you are the Great Kreskin and have the answer. Man, you just cant handle difference of opinion without lashing out, can you?

Just relax man. Your opinion has been heard and noted. Some agree... some dont. I havent missed a home game since 2012. Attending the game, i mean. I want what is best for Marshall. I would love to be in The AAC. But we have barriers. And extremely hard ones to overcome.

But when a WKU fan, MT fan, MU fan, Side Show Joe, and a Charlotte fan agree... dude, that is like the apocalypse... esp with Guns and SSG. In the words of Beed: “You whack Mang!”

And dont make me break into Stinkese. Although I would love his opinion on this matter.

But, Herdfan, if I am wrong and Marshall gets the invite (which I have been on record saying i hope i am wrong and it happens), I will change my sig to whatever you choose for 6 months.