If I were them i'd hold at 11. No point in movement right now. Wait till 2026. Isn't that when the GoR ends and everyone expects ore to shake up? If so hold tight and get paid.

(06-22-2019 09:18 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:33 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  If Army decides not to join then it will most like be Marshall or Southern Miss. Next possibilities are either UAB or ODU. JMO.

Marshall is not in the hunt. We will make a hell of a case and put up one helluva fight, but in the end, it comes down to numbers. The only thing we can hope for is that ESPN and the AAC presidents value our brand and can forgive our small budget and lack of ability to increase it. Marshall just cAnt go from 30 mil to 45+.

We just dont fit the model. I hope im wrong.

Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

You seem to take this **** seriously like someone else cant see it different than you.

Could you explain these to me?

1. Big time improvements in facilities.
2. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.
3. Lots of alumni in Florida.

#3 How many is a lot? Why does that matter?

#1 Other than a large football stadium..notice I didnt add anything but large. Explain to me the Big time improvements in facilities.

#2 As for basketball attendance how much of that is because of cheap discounted tickets? Before you try to make a point of they are not cheap or discounted prices.

going by the football attendance and the dollars made off all tickets sold...the basketball attendance does add up to the bottom line.


If A long history with any member of the AAC mattered S. Miss and UAB would be in the AAC

WKU doesnt even compare to Marshall in any aspect.

Our basketball attendance would be 4th highest in the AAC. We sold out of every single season ticket this year so none of that was "discounted tickets."

We are a pretty decent TV market and actually control that market.

WKU averages 14k/game in football......

From your answers I take it that you are a fan that never gets out of Huntington WV to watch sports. Honestly that's the reason I went at your post..100% homier post

First off every ticket that isnt set aside for students should be a season ticket. The Cam Center holds over 9k so show me where Marshall sold 6500 to 7000 season tickets? EDIT: Marshall soldout the 10 lower sections, green, red, and dark blue. What is that 2000 seats?



As for football (and basketball) dont get caught up in announced because it's far from butts in seats. Unlike everyone else in CUSA, `Western's announced attendance is 95% butts sitting in seats. BTW Western sold out every ticket other than maybe 1000 set aside for student. And every game this past season was a sellout. But again Western uses butts in seats


But you really didnt answer my questions. What does the below mean? Unlike you I've been to almost every campus in CUSA and while some people confuse the number of seats as "Big time improvements". It's far from what that means

1. Big time improvements in facilities
2. Lots of alumni in Florida. How many and how does it compare to other CUSA schools and why does it matter?


edit: I'm not going to get in a dick measuring contest with you but I will throw this out there but just because you are clueless

Western has the highest winning % of all teams in CUSA that's played football over 25 years. Western also has more basketball wins (and highest winning %) than any school in CUSA. Hell you can almost add any other 2 CUSA schools together and Western would have more. Western has double the amount of championships as any other school in CUSA since joining the conference. As I said just a little FYI

No one

BYU would say hell no to a G5 conference and that atrocious media deal that Aresco negotiated.

Boise doesnt want any part of the AAC either.

All the rest of the AAC schools want to keep the crumbs that Aresco got for themselves

(06-22-2019 11:53 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  No one

BYU would say hell no to a G5 conference and that atrocious media deal that Aresco negotiated.

Boise doesnt want any part of the AAC either.

All the rest of the AAC schools want to keep the crumbs that Aresco got for themselves

I know it's not p5 $ but compared to what we used to get $7.6 million in tv money alone is nothing to scoff at.

(06-22-2019 11:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:18 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Marshall is not in the hunt. We will make a hell of a case and put up one helluva fight, but in the end, it comes down to numbers. The only thing we can hope for is that ESPN and the AAC presidents value our brand and can forgive our small budget and lack of ability to increase it. Marshall just cAnt go from 30 mil to 45+.

We just dont fit the model. I hope im wrong.

Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

You seem to take this **** seriously like someone else cant see it different than you.

Could you explain these to me?

1. Big time improvements in facilities.
2. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.
3. Lots of alumni in Florida.

#3 How many is a lot? Why does that matter?

#1 Other than a large football stadium..notice I didnt add anything but large. Explain to me the Big time improvements in facilities.

#2 As for basketball attendance how much of that is because of cheap discounted tickets? Before you try to make a point of they are not cheap or discounted prices.

going by the football attendance and the dollars made off all tickets sold...the basketball attendance does add up to the bottom line.


If A long history with any member of the AAC mattered S. Miss and UAB would be in the AAC

WKU doesnt even compare to Marshall in any aspect.

Our basketball attendance would be 4th highest in the AAC. We sold out of every single season ticket this year so none of that was "discounted tickets."

We are a pretty decent TV market and actually control that market.

WKU averages 14k/game in football......

From your answers I take it that you are a fan that never gets out of Huntington WV to watch sports. Honestly that's the reason I went at your post..100% homier post

First off every ticket that isnt set aside for students should be a season ticket. The Cam Center holds over 9k so show me where Marshall sold 6500 to 7000 season tickets? EDIT: Marshall soldout the 10 lower sections, green, red, and dark blue. What is that 2000 seats?



As for football (and basketball) dont get caught up in announced because it's far from butts in seats. Unlike everyone else in CUSA, `Western's announced attendance is 95% butts sitting in seats. BTW Western sold out every ticket other than maybe 1000 set aside for student. And every game this past season was a sellout. But again Western uses butts in seats


But you really didnt answer my questions. What does the below mean? Unlike you I've been to almost every campus in CUSA and while some people confuse the number of seats as "Big time improvements". It's far from what that means

1. Big time improvements in facilities
2. Lots of alumni in Florida. How many and how does it compare to other CUSA schools and why does it matter?


edit: I'm not going to get in a dick measuring contest with you but I will throw this out there but just because you are clueless

Western has the highest winning % of all teams in CUSA that's played football over 25 years. Western also has more basketball wins (and highest winning %) than any school in CUSA. Hell you can almost add any other 2 CUSA schools together and Western would have more. Western has double the amount of championships as any other school in CUSA since joining the conference. As I said just a little FYI

Please just stop. You are lucky to even be fbs. West Kentucky athletics is a joke...still....as i said years ago.

(06-22-2019 09:26 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:02 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  I sure hope it's USM!!!

I concur.

I share yall’s hope, but not your enthusiasm. I wish I did, though.

Southern Miss makes sense from a historical perspective but they’re in a small market. Same for Marshall. They can try and convince Army if they’re interested this time. Army can take UConn’s spot in the East while Navy stays in the West.

But I think Old Dominion will get the call. They bring a new market in a state that the AAC doesn’t have a presence. They compliment Temple and East Carolina in the East. Their budget is at an AAC level and their football program is not as bad as UConn’s although the Huskies played in a Fiesta Bowl and beat some P5 schools when they were a BCS school. UConn basketball is irreplaceable but ODU basketball brings some history and good fan support. The question is, does ECU want ODU in their conference?

(06-23-2019 12:05 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 11:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:18 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

You seem to take this **** seriously like someone else cant see it different than you.

Could you explain these to me?

1. Big time improvements in facilities.
2. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.
3. Lots of alumni in Florida.

#3 How many is a lot? Why does that matter?

#1 Other than a large football stadium..notice I didnt add anything but large. Explain to me the Big time improvements in facilities.

#2 As for basketball attendance how much of that is because of cheap discounted tickets? Before you try to make a point of they are not cheap or discounted prices.

going by the football attendance and the dollars made off all tickets sold...the basketball attendance does add up to the bottom line.


If A long history with any member of the AAC mattered S. Miss and UAB would be in the AAC

WKU doesnt even compare to Marshall in any aspect.

Our basketball attendance would be 4th highest in the AAC. We sold out of every single season ticket this year so none of that was "discounted tickets."

We are a pretty decent TV market and actually control that market.

WKU averages 14k/game in football......

From your answers I take it that you are a fan that never gets out of Huntington WV to watch sports. Honestly that's the reason I went at your post..100% homier post

First off every ticket that isnt set aside for students should be a season ticket. The Cam Center holds over 9k so show me where Marshall sold 6500 to 7000 season tickets? EDIT: Marshall soldout the 10 lower sections, green, red, and dark blue. What is that 2000 seats?



As for football (and basketball) dont get caught up in announced because it's far from butts in seats. Unlike everyone else in CUSA, `Western's announced attendance is 95% butts sitting in seats. BTW Western sold out every ticket other than maybe 1000 set aside for student. And every game this past season was a sellout. But again Western uses butts in seats


But you really didnt answer my questions. What does the below mean? Unlike you I've been to almost every campus in CUSA and while some people confuse the number of seats as "Big time improvements". It's far from what that means

1. Big time improvements in facilities
2. Lots of alumni in Florida. How many and how does it compare to other CUSA schools and why does it matter?


edit: I'm not going to get in a dick measuring contest with you but I will throw this out there but just because you are clueless

Western has the highest winning % of all teams in CUSA that's played football over 25 years. Western also has more basketball wins (and highest winning %) than any school in CUSA. Hell you can almost add any other 2 CUSA schools together and Western would have more. Western has double the amount of championships as any other school in CUSA since joining the conference. As I said just a little FYI

Please just stop. You are lucky to even be fbs. West Kentucky athletics is a joke...still....as i said years ago.

It really hurts you to know S. Miss has already been passed up by a school that only play FBS since 2009. Hell passed up by schools that didn't even have a football program 10 to 15 years ago. Do you really want to talk basketball? Nope, you really dont.

Everything I posted above is fact. Hell all you have is a goo set of knees...

I bet you been all over the AAC board offering to blow everyone on the board. If it helped S. Miss get in the AAC. Honestly does it really matter.....other than your knees getting sore.

S. Miss in the AAC will be middle of the pack. Just like in CUSA so nothing really changes. Hell UNCC has made S. Miss, their ***** and they didnt have a FB program before 2015

Facts..you hate them

How would the AAC choose UCONN's replacement? Will it be Aresco's choice or will the AAC school presidents vote on it. If the schools are going to vote, then there's no doubt in my mind that the candidate will be Southern Miss.

(06-23-2019 12:35 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  How would the AAC choose UCONN's replacement? Will it be Aresco's choice or will the AAC school presidents vote on it. If the schools are going to vote, then there's no doubt in my mind that the candidate will be Southern Miss.

The commissioner visits the schools, hears their presentations and then makes the recommendation to school presidents who make the decision which school(s) get invited.

(06-23-2019 12:35 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  How would the AAC choose UCONN's replacement? Will it be Aresco's choice or will the AAC school presidents vote on it. If the schools are going to vote, then there's no doubt in my mind that the candidate will be Southern Miss.

Why, those same Presidents passed on S. Miss, 3 or 4 other times. If you are going by fans on a message board....

99.5% probably dont have a voice or the ear of their President

I wish my alma mater, Charlotte, had a chance, but the American wants established programs, that win, with tv eyeballs and more fans in the seats that can deliver on day one to earn their yearly $10-million tv/conference payout.

I think priority will be Army (football only) and VCU (basketball/olympic sports) for benefit of the American's east members to replace UCONN for travel purposes.

Unless ESPN wants to consolidate its more valuable non-p5 contracts into the American - remember MWC and BYU media contracts are up for renewal - so watch BYU and Air Force first. Colorado is the only state between BYU (Provo, Utah) and Wichita State (Wichita, Kansas) the western most American member. If any Western movement happens, eyes will also turn back to San Diego State and Boise State too. The rest of the MWC would likely get a MAC/CUSA/SUNBELT sized conference media contract if any departures happen.

clt promises to come back here and visit.

(06-22-2019 07:50 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:38 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:10 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 06:57 PM)wh49er Wrote:  Mike Hill is obviously going to make calls, Charlotte checks all the boxes except for we’ve sucked at the two sports that matter as of late.

Charlotte does not check that many boxes. Charlotte ranks 5th in C-USA for athletic spending, has a stadium that only holds 15K, while averaging under 12K per game. And, Charlotte ranked dead last in recruiting last season, plus with no recruits committed to the 2020 class, they may repeat that last place finish again this year.

Yea you don’t know what we know, we are finally getting master athletics facility plan this fall. I would expect the announcement earlier now.

Judy Rose is gone, Mike Hill has hired 7 new coaches in a year and a half. The tide is turning and if we stay in CUSA, the path is still the same.

If you are just now formulating your master plan, than you are already too late for this round.

Programs that are winning and already have master plans in place and have used those plans to build new facilities and are turning dirt on new facilities are going to be the front-runners in this thing. The AAC wants to see results, not what you might do if you can budget it.

I remember the Big East/AAC inviting Tulane before they broke ground on their new stadium and they sucked in all sports.

(06-22-2019 11:04 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:38 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  Usm and Marshall are the only Cusa schools they will consider. Uab may get a sniff. Not one other school is in any conversation other than on message board nonsense

EXACTLY!

Marshall/So Miss/UAB (no order) are only CUSA schools that have a real shot.

Everyone else needs to go lay down somewhere.


No Sun Belt team has a chance. No MAC team has a chance. No FCS team has a chance.

BYU is top choice if they can get them. Army is next best choice but don't see that happening either.

As a fan of an AAC school, I think you are largely right.

I think the best option is BYU or Army. Highly unlikely we BYU, Army is a longshot.

Next best option is to stay put until a team really stands out.

If we have to add someone my favorite would be Marshall due to geographics and history with AAC teams (media market is the biggest negative). I also like NIU (good history of success, media market, location). After them USM (history w AAC teams and brand, but several negatives including media market, lack of recent success) UAB might get consideration but I think their lack of sustained success holds them back. If the AAC holds off expanding, I could see them rising up the list. I dont think anyone else moves the needle.

Like I said in another thread, If the AAC expands, the school will be either a service academy or a Carnegie R2 classification school. The AAC school presidents will make the final choice and they like to be associated with similar academic institutions. I believe all the existing members of the AAC are Carnegie R1 or R2?


That said, I don't think the AAC will expand in the near future, but who knows?

(06-23-2019 05:58 AM)jaminniner Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:50 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:38 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:10 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 06:57 PM)wh49er Wrote:  Mike Hill is obviously going to make calls, Charlotte checks all the boxes except for we’ve sucked at the two sports that matter as of late.

Charlotte does not check that many boxes. Charlotte ranks 5th in C-USA for athletic spending, has a stadium that only holds 15K, while averaging under 12K per game. And, Charlotte ranked dead last in recruiting last season, plus with no recruits committed to the 2020 class, they may repeat that last place finish again this year.

Yea you don’t know what we know, we are finally getting master athletics facility plan this fall. I would expect the announcement earlier now.

Judy Rose is gone, Mike Hill has hired 7 new coaches in a year and a half. The tide is turning and if we stay in CUSA, the path is still the same.

If you are just now formulating your master plan, than you are already too late for this round.

Programs that are winning and already have master plans in place and have used those plans to build new facilities and are turning dirt on new facilities are going to be the front-runners in this thing. The AAC wants to see results, not what you might do if you can budget it.

I remember the Big East/AAC inviting Tulane before they broke ground on their new stadium and they sucked in all sports.

Academic pedigree. All power conferences have at least one school with superb academic credentials. I think it helps them maintain the charade that academics still matter.

(06-23-2019 05:58 AM)jaminniner Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:50 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:38 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:10 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 06:57 PM)wh49er Wrote:  Mike Hill is obviously going to make calls, Charlotte checks all the boxes except for we’ve sucked at the two sports that matter as of late.

Charlotte does not check that many boxes. Charlotte ranks 5th in C-USA for athletic spending, has a stadium that only holds 15K, while averaging under 12K per game. And, Charlotte ranked dead last in recruiting last season, plus with no recruits committed to the 2020 class, they may repeat that last place finish again this year.

Yea you don’t know what we know, we are finally getting master athletics facility plan this fall. I would expect the announcement earlier now.

Judy Rose is gone, Mike Hill has hired 7 new coaches in a year and a half. The tide is turning and if we stay in CUSA, the path is still the same.

If you are just now formulating your master plan, than you are already too late for this round.

Programs that are winning and already have master plans in place and have used those plans to build new facilities and are turning dirt on new facilities are going to be the front-runners in this thing. The AAC wants to see results, not what you might do if you can budget it.

I remember the Big East/AAC inviting Tulane before they broke ground on their new stadium and they sucked in all sports.

Tulane was not bad when they received their invitation. Tulane was a 7-6 bowl team and 17 and 17 in basketball their last season in C-USA. Plus, Tulane added the New Orleans media market.

(06-22-2019 06:56 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Damn. I shoulda been a sports journalist. Seems easy and they probably make more than me too.

I think the problem is that for every journalist who’s getting paid a legit/decent salary to actually write about sports, there’s 20 or 30 who’re driving for Uber and waiting for a break.

(06-23-2019 06:41 AM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote:  Like I said in another thread, If the AAC expands, the school will be either a service academy or a Carnegie R2 classification school. The AAC school presidents will make the final choice and they like to be associated with similar academic institutions. I believe all the existing members of the AAC are Carnegie R1 or R2?


That said, I don't think the AAC will expand in the near future, but who knows?

Besides North Texas, which other CUSA members are Carnegie R1? And for the record I think the AAC will sit tight when UCONN leaves.