(08-04-2021 01:07 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 01:03 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 12:55 PM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 12:47 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  So, Marshall is supposedly pushing for split, but their FB coach is talking about the A10 route. Which smoke leads to the real fire?

I think it was the basketball coach. I think he told a fan he had heard the Atlantic 10 rumor. My guess is, the coach reads the message boards like the rest of us?

I hope our coaches have better things to do than read message boards

What else is there to do at work?

So true... it’s funny how many less posts there are on the weekends lol

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:23 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:12 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Soon the A10 will be the A22 and no they can't just kick out some of their weak teams to make room for others. Fourteen teams currently.

The A10 could add 2 and be fine. Marshall and ODU seem to be the ones pushing for it. 16 is not a terrible number but probably wouldn't want to be much bigger. If an opportunity like this was available in the Southwest, I would want UTEP to jump on it.

What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

But you are not going to charter Olympic sports and I dont believe Marshall charters basketball. Its not about the fans driving to games...

expense for athletes to get there

While A-10 was getting 3,4,5 schools in the NCAA Tourney that number has dropped to two in the last 3 NCAA Tourneys. Well actually 2 out of 3 because of Covid but no way was the A-10 getting more than 2 the year we did not have a NCAA Tourney.

The farther the A-10 gets from when Xavier and Temple played in the A-10, along with VCU's run the less and less respect its going to get. Already happening and with in the next few year they will be fighting for a 2nd team in the dance.

By no means is the A-10 a regional conference, for Marshall. And I dont see what Marshall brings to the table that adds anything to their value for the A-10 to want another mouth to feed.

(08-04-2021 07:52 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:23 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:12 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Soon the A10 will be the A22 and no they can't just kick out some of their weak teams to make room for others. Fourteen teams currently.

The A10 could add 2 and be fine. Marshall and ODU seem to be the ones pushing for it. 16 is not a terrible number but probably wouldn't want to be much bigger. If an opportunity like this was available in the Southwest, I would want UTEP to jump on it.

What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

And you’d save a fortune in travel for all the other sports.

Explain how Marshall will save money on travel for other sports? Have you looked at the distant between schools? It will cost Marshall 2 to 3x the dollars to travel north into Umass and RI than S. Fla. Hell its going to cost more getting to the schools in Philly than Dallas or Houston....

I would love to know where you see these savings coming from and how you figured them?

(08-04-2021 08:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:23 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:12 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Soon the A10 will be the A22 and no they can't just kick out some of their weak teams to make room for others. Fourteen teams currently.

The A10 could add 2 and be fine. Marshall and ODU seem to be the ones pushing for it. 16 is not a terrible number but probably wouldn't want to be much bigger. If an opportunity like this was available in the Southwest, I would want UTEP to jump on it.

What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

But you are not going to charter Olympic sports and I dont believe Marshall charters basketball. Its not about the fans driving to games...

expense for athletes to get there

While A-10 was getting 3,4,5 schools in the NCAA Tourney that number has dropped to two in the last 3 NCAA Tourneys. Well actually 2 out of 3 because of Covid but no way was the A-10 getting more than 2 the year we did not have a NCAA Tourney.

The farther the A-10 gets from when Xavier and Temple played in the A-10, along with VCU's run the less and less respect its going to get. Already happening and with in the next few year they will be fighting for a 2nd team in the dance.

By no means is the A-10 a regional conference, for Marshall. And I dont see what Marshall brings to the table that adds anything to their value for the A-10 to want another mouth to feed.

We charter. And we fit wonderfully in that footprint. Have a history of playing several of those teams.

(08-04-2021 08:17 PM)Superanjario Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:23 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  The A10 could add 2 and be fine. Marshall and ODU seem to be the ones pushing for it. 16 is not a terrible number but probably wouldn't want to be much bigger. If an opportunity like this was available in the Southwest, I would want UTEP to jump on it.

What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

But you are not going to charter Olympic sports and I dont believe Marshall charters basketball. Its not about the fans driving to games...

expense for athletes to get there

While A-10 was getting 3,4,5 schools in the NCAA Tourney that number has dropped to two in the last 3 NCAA Tourneys. Well actually 2 out of 3 because of Covid but no way was the A-10 getting more than 2 the year we did not have a NCAA Tourney.

The farther the A-10 gets from when Xavier and Temple played in the A-10, along with VCU's run the less and less respect its going to get. Already happening and with in the next few year they will be fighting for a 2nd team in the dance.

By no means is the A-10 a regional conference, for Marshall. And I dont see what Marshall brings to the table that adds anything to their value for the A-10 to want another mouth to feed.

We charter. And we fit wonderfully in that footprint. Have a history of playing several of those teams.

Define history?

Other than Davidson which Marshall has not played since 1997 Marshall has not played any other A-10 school over 9 times

Davidson 37 games
George Washington 9 games and 3 times since 1975
Duquesne 6 games twice since 1975
Massachusetts 6 games none since 2003
St. Bonaventure 5 games twice since 1960
Dayton 2 games last 11 years ago
La Salle 2 games 1970/71
Rhode Island 2 games 1975
Virginia Commonwealth 2 games 1988
Richmond 1 game 1966

(08-04-2021 08:16 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:52 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:23 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  The A10 could add 2 and be fine. Marshall and ODU seem to be the ones pushing for it. 16 is not a terrible number but probably wouldn't want to be much bigger. If an opportunity like this was available in the Southwest, I would want UTEP to jump on it.

What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

And you’d save a fortune in travel for all the other sports.

Explain how Marshall will save money on travel for other sports? Have you looked at the distant between schools? It will cost Marshall 2 to 3x the dollars to travel north into Umass and RI than S. Fla. Hell its going to cost more getting to the schools in Philly than Dallas or Houston....

I would love to know where you see these savings coming from and how you figured them?

Because it’s a lot closer to DC. (2x), Richmond (2x), Norfolk, Davidson and Dayton than it is to San Antonio, Miami, Dallas and Houston from Marshall. You can bus to all those places and other than football, that’s where all the teams will be playing.

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:23 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:12 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Soon the A10 will be the A22 and no they can't just kick out some of their weak teams to make room for others. Fourteen teams currently.

The A10 could add 2 and be fine. Marshall and ODU seem to be the ones pushing for it. 16 is not a terrible number but probably wouldn't want to be much bigger. If an opportunity like this was available in the Southwest, I would want UTEP to jump on it.

What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

We add more value than Charlotte...for the record WKU also adds more value than Charlotte.

(08-04-2021 09:17 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:16 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:52 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

And you’d save a fortune in travel for all the other sports.

Explain how Marshall will save money on travel for other sports? Have you looked at the distant between schools? It will cost Marshall 2 to 3x the dollars to travel north into Umass and RI than S. Fla. Hell its going to cost more getting to the schools in Philly than Dallas or Houston....

I would love to know where you see these savings coming from and how you figured them?

Because it’s a lot closer to DC. (2x), Richmond (2x), Norfolk, Davidson and Dayton than it is to San Antonio, Miami, Dallas and Houston from Marshall. You can bus to all those places and other than football, that’s where all the teams will be playing.

Being cl;oser has very little to do with cost of flying. Flying into Ft Lauderdale or Miami is way cheaper than any flight in the A-10. A charter might be cheaper if its a closer flight but none of the Olympic sports are going to charter.

You are comparing the shortest distant to a Western school thats not in the same division as Marshall. Richmond is the same miles as Middle and Dayton is an hour shorter than Western. Davidson is the same as UNCC. All or most of the others are 8 to 12 hours and not in cities that have major hubs...

like Dallas and Houston and Ft Lauderdale and Miami, and CLT

(08-04-2021 08:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:23 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:12 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Soon the A10 will be the A22 and no they can't just kick out some of their weak teams to make room for others. Fourteen teams currently.

The A10 could add 2 and be fine. Marshall and ODU seem to be the ones pushing for it. 16 is not a terrible number but probably wouldn't want to be much bigger. If an opportunity like this was available in the Southwest, I would want UTEP to jump on it.

What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

But you are not going to charter Olympic sports and I dont believe Marshall charters basketball. Its not about the fans driving to games...

expense for athletes to get there

While A-10 was getting 3,4,5 schools in the NCAA Tourney that number has dropped to two in the last 3 NCAA Tourneys. Well actually 2 out of 3 because of Covid but no way was the A-10 getting more than 2 the year we did not have a NCAA Tourney.

The farther the A-10 gets from when Xavier and Temple played in the A-10, along with VCU's run the less and less respect its going to get. Already happening and with in the next few year they will be fighting for a 2nd team in the dance.

By no means is the A-10 a regional conference, for Marshall. And I dont see what Marshall brings to the table that adds anything to their value for the A-10 to want another mouth to feed.

We do charter basketball. Just probably not to WKU. Our tip-off club donations are primarily used to get more charters for the basketball team. 2 northern school is better than 4 Texas school if we're on the subject of travel and the vast majority of the A10 teams are peppered all around us. It's a net gain. I know it's not about the fans I was just pointing out it's not that far and we've been there before.

2 schools in the NCAA tournament out of even 24 schools beats 1 out of 14 every time and more of a chance to break thru to the next round. At the very least we're talking about it being an even tradeoff with more regional matchups for us. At best it could be substantially more lucrative and would certainly make our basketball fans happier. Football is probably a wash but quickly goes up if a few more choice schools decide to get in.

(08-04-2021 10:27 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:23 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:12 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Soon the A10 will be the A22 and no they can't just kick out some of their weak teams to make room for others. Fourteen teams currently.

The A10 could add 2 and be fine. Marshall and ODU seem to be the ones pushing for it. 16 is not a terrible number but probably wouldn't want to be much bigger. If an opportunity like this was available in the Southwest, I would want UTEP to jump on it.

What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

We add more value than Charlotte...for the record WKU also adds more value than Charlotte.

My point in asking that was not that Marshall doesnt have any value but is it enough to move the needle for the extra cost to each school in the A-10?

Marshall would be the most western base school in a city without a major airport/hubs and its not drivable to most of the schools in the A-10. That adds cost to those other schools...

what does Marshall bring to the table to cover that cost?

Also what does Marshall bring to the basketball court to get a piece of the NCAA money pie? Does a school that plays .560 ball (overall on a middle of conference SOS) and .580 in CUSA 3.0 since 2014 when the last team joined. Is that enough to push the A-10 into another bid.

For the A-10 to add a school that school would have to add something to justify the addition and cost. Does Marshall do that? I personally hope Western would never join a non-football conference so my questions has nothing to do with that.

My question is not meant to put down Marshall its just based on value vs cost to A-10

Those of you that look at the 400k each CUSA school gets for media seem to think that's all their school is getting from CUSA. Wrong and lets compare the top school in A-10 and a middle up school

Below you will see what Umass and VCU gets from the A-10 and what Marshall reports from CUSA. Keep in mind that CUSA gets 12 million from football payout and I'm sure some of the revenue/payout Marshall reports is money to cover bowl cost. Lets say that's 1.5 million and Marshall is still bring home way more money from CUSA than the A-10 pays out. I'm fairly sure some of Umass's money is a payout from football.



Below is travel and game expenses. Football expenses are a lot higher than basketball because it cost around 400k to but that FCS school. Also the number of yellow shirts working football adds thousands for each home game. Most basketball games have very little to none. At Western you have your ticket takers and one or two others making sure a student is not in the season ticket sections. Lot more expenses for football.

Most A-10 schools must be private because they do not list them in these reports


2019 UMASS played 2 road games that were most likely bus rides and still spent more on travel than Marshall
@UNCC
@TECH
@FIU
@Northwestern
@Rutgers less than 200 miles bus?
@Army bus 130 miles bus?

Marshall
@Boise State
@Middle
@FAU
@Rice
@UNCC

clt laughing at marshal for flying commercial for mbb

(08-04-2021 02:21 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 01:25 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 12:47 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  So, Marshall is supposedly pushing for split, but their FB coach is talking about the A10 route. Which smoke leads to the real fire?

Marshall, ODU and Charlotte to the A10, the rest of you split to God knows where. Best of luck.

First Ive heard of the Marshall to the A10 plan too. It always included ODU and Charlotte. Glad to bring Marshall along too. Especially if they are part of the rumored Football Indy Alliance with Army, UConn, UMass, Liberty, ODU and Charlotte.

It might very well be most of CUSA East to the A10.

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:23 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:12 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Soon the A10 will be the A22 and no they can't just kick out some of their weak teams to make room for others. Fourteen teams currently.

The A10 could add 2 and be fine. Marshall and ODU seem to be the ones pushing for it. 16 is not a terrible number but probably wouldn't want to be much bigger. If an opportunity like this was available in the Southwest, I would want UTEP to jump on it.

What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

We have no business playing in states where we don't recruit and don't have any Alumni Clubs.

(08-04-2021 08:37 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:17 PM)Superanjario Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 05:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  What does Marshall add in value to the A-10?

On the other end how is this going to save Marshall money on travel? It's going to cost a school twice, maybe three times as much money to travel to Umass and Rhode Island than FIU and FAU.

Dayton is their only drivable game @3 hours and I believe one other around 5 hours. The others are 6.5 to 10 hours away.

Any Marshall fan complaining about wanting in a regional conference and picks the A-10 and Indy in football...

dont know how to read a map

Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

But you are not going to charter Olympic sports and I dont believe Marshall charters basketball. Its not about the fans driving to games...

expense for athletes to get there

While A-10 was getting 3,4,5 schools in the NCAA Tourney that number has dropped to two in the last 3 NCAA Tourneys. Well actually 2 out of 3 because of Covid but no way was the A-10 getting more than 2 the year we did not have a NCAA Tourney.

The farther the A-10 gets from when Xavier and Temple played in the A-10, along with VCU's run the less and less respect its going to get. Already happening and with in the next few year they will be fighting for a 2nd team in the dance.

By no means is the A-10 a regional conference, for Marshall. And I dont see what Marshall brings to the table that adds anything to their value for the A-10 to want another mouth to feed.

We charter. And we fit wonderfully in that footprint. Have a history of playing several of those teams.

Define history?

Other than Davidson which Marshall has not played since 1997 Marshall has not played any other A-10 school over 9 times

Davidson 37 games
George Washington 9 games and 3 times since 1975
Duquesne 6 games twice since 1975
Massachusetts 6 games none since 2003
St. Bonaventure 5 games twice since 1960
Dayton 2 games last 11 years ago
La Salle 2 games 1970/71
Rhode Island 2 games 1975
Virginia Commonwealth 2 games 1988
Richmond 1 game 1966

You seem really concerned.

(08-05-2021 06:42 AM)Superanjario Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:37 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:17 PM)Superanjario Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

But you are not going to charter Olympic sports and I dont believe Marshall charters basketball. Its not about the fans driving to games...

expense for athletes to get there

While A-10 was getting 3,4,5 schools in the NCAA Tourney that number has dropped to two in the last 3 NCAA Tourneys. Well actually 2 out of 3 because of Covid but no way was the A-10 getting more than 2 the year we did not have a NCAA Tourney.

The farther the A-10 gets from when Xavier and Temple played in the A-10, along with VCU's run the less and less respect its going to get. Already happening and with in the next few year they will be fighting for a 2nd team in the dance.

By no means is the A-10 a regional conference, for Marshall. And I dont see what Marshall brings to the table that adds anything to their value for the A-10 to want another mouth to feed.

We charter. And we fit wonderfully in that footprint. Have a history of playing several of those teams.

Define history?

Other than Davidson which Marshall has not played since 1997 Marshall has not played any other A-10 school over 9 times

Davidson 37 games
George Washington 9 games and 3 times since 1975
Duquesne 6 games twice since 1975
Massachusetts 6 games none since 2003
St. Bonaventure 5 games twice since 1960
Dayton 2 games last 11 years ago
La Salle 2 games 1970/71
Rhode Island 2 games 1975
Virginia Commonwealth 2 games 1988
Richmond 1 game 1966

You seem really concerned.

In fairness to WKUYG, he has made similar arguments anytime I have brought up WKU going Indy in football and A-10 in Olympics.


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(08-05-2021 06:42 AM)Superanjario Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:37 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:17 PM)Superanjario Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

But you are not going to charter Olympic sports and I dont believe Marshall charters basketball. Its not about the fans driving to games...

expense for athletes to get there

While A-10 was getting 3,4,5 schools in the NCAA Tourney that number has dropped to two in the last 3 NCAA Tourneys. Well actually 2 out of 3 because of Covid but no way was the A-10 getting more than 2 the year we did not have a NCAA Tourney.

The farther the A-10 gets from when Xavier and Temple played in the A-10, along with VCU's run the less and less respect its going to get. Already happening and with in the next few year they will be fighting for a 2nd team in the dance.

By no means is the A-10 a regional conference, for Marshall. And I dont see what Marshall brings to the table that adds anything to their value for the A-10 to want another mouth to feed.

We charter. And we fit wonderfully in that footprint. Have a history of playing several of those teams.

Define history?

Other than Davidson which Marshall has not played since 1997 Marshall has not played any other A-10 school over 9 times

Davidson 37 games
George Washington 9 games and 3 times since 1975
Duquesne 6 games twice since 1975
Massachusetts 6 games none since 2003
St. Bonaventure 5 games twice since 1960
Dayton 2 games last 11 years ago
La Salle 2 games 1970/71
Rhode Island 2 games 1975
Virginia Commonwealth 2 games 1988
Richmond 1 game 1966

You seem really concerned.

Not concerned at all because this has little to no chance of happening and even if it did as long as Western didnt make that mistake...

it doesnt concern me on a personal level.

But this is a message board and you made the comment Marshall had history playing several of those teams. From the list above it looks like you really don't know what you are talking about. But thats why I asked you to define history...

your history might be going back to 1960 or 1975 for the several. In that case you are correct. A short long long long ago history

This sounds like a pipe dream on Marshalls part. Marshall to A-10 does not fit whatsoever. ODU is more believable but I cannot see Marshall as a fit for that conference. WKU got an invite to A-10 in 1994 but our president at the time did not want to pursue.

(08-04-2021 11:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 09:17 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 08:16 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:52 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 07:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  Maybe multiple NCAA bids foots the bill for some extra travel. It's only about 10-12 hours to Mass by car. I've done it many times. And UConn is closer than that. You spend most of the day getting through Pennsylvania, which is huge, diagonally. And we played in a conference with Buffalo for years, so we're used to going north. It's not that bad and it's still Eastern based. I mean Marshall to UConn is closer than Cincy to UConn was. Either way, it's a quick charter up, most likely.

And you’d save a fortune in travel for all the other sports.

Explain how Marshall will save money on travel for other sports? Have you looked at the distant between schools? It will cost Marshall 2 to 3x the dollars to travel north into Umass and RI than S. Fla. Hell its going to cost more getting to the schools in Philly than Dallas or Houston....

I would love to know where you see these savings coming from and how you figured them?

Because it’s a lot closer to DC. (2x), Richmond (2x), Norfolk, Davidson and Dayton than it is to San Antonio, Miami, Dallas and Houston from Marshall. You can bus to all those places and other than football, that’s where all the teams will be playing.

Being cl;oser has very little to do with cost of flying. Flying into Ft Lauderdale or Miami is way cheaper than any flight in the A-10. A charter might be cheaper if its a closer flight but none of the Olympic sports are going to charter.

You are comparing the shortest distant to a Western school thats not in the same division as Marshall. Richmond is the same miles as Middle and Dayton is an hour shorter than Western. Davidson is the same as UNCC. All or most of the others are 8 to 12 hours and not in cities that have major hubs...

like Dallas and Houston and Ft Lauderdale and Miami, and CLT

Marshall Olympic sports would also bus to VCU, Richmond, GMU, ODU, George Washington, Dayton, Duquense, Davidson. Thats 8 teams you dont have to fly to versus 3 in CUSA. Its possibly they could drive to St. Louis too if needed. And ODU could bus to 10 of them vs. 2 in CUSA.

(08-05-2021 07:58 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  This sounds like a pipe dream on Marshalls part. Marshall to A-10 does not fit whatsoever. ODU is more believable but I cannot see Marshall as a fit for that conference. WKU got an invite to A-10 in 1994 but our president at the time did not want to pursue.

I remember that. The A10 invited WKU, ODU and JMU. All three said no thanks. In my opinion it was a huge mistake for ODU and JMU, but at the time the CAA was strong and getting stronger, and we had a lot of closer rivals in the CAA. ECU, JMU, Richmond and GMU were all in the Colonial at the time and VCU would join a couple years later. We were bringing thousands of fans to the conference tournament which was attended by big crowds. It was a fun time. I can see why we turned it down then, but really wish we hadn't done so now.