Here's something to consider. AAC schools are apart of ESPN like the ACC. I don't think the ACC goes after AAC schools. Let's say the Fox get the Big 12 and the PAC-10 either gets dismantled or survives but Amazon gets them. I think if the ACC expands, they'd go after FOX properties for ESPN, and to me, would be Cincy, UCF, WVU, and UCONN (Fox/CBS), but if ESPN thinks they could lose Memphis to the Big 12, I could see Memphis get added instead of UCONN.

(09-30-2022 12:03 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 04:59 AM)schmolik Wrote:  So a Florida State fan is campaigning for UConn and a Syracuse fan is saying the ACC needs "some pedigree" in football?

The only game changer the ACC can add in football is Cincinnati and are they just good vs. AAC competition? The last thing the ACC needs is another Duke's Mayo Bowl level team. If I want to watch football, I'll watch the SEC. What's the difference between watching Clemson vs. West Virginia and Alabama vs. Arkansas who play this weekend? I come to the ACC to watch men's basketball and if you add UConn to Duke, North Carolina, and, when they come back, Syracuse, Virginia, and Louisville, they will be better. They've won three national championships this millennium and one more in 1999, the only available football team that can claim a national championship since 2000 is UCF:) And we're not even talking about their women's team yet.

You do realize we were in the CFP last season, don't you?

And you do realize that we just played Arkansas to a one score game on the road... and if we had a better QB would have won, right?

Perhaps educate yourself better before posting.

What kind of weak-ass argument is this?

If we had a better QB, we woulda won.

Well no sh!t sherlock.

EVERY team can say this. About EVERY game. EVERY year.

If only we had a better QB, we woulda won that one.

Duh.

Someone's clearly been hanging out with Big XII peeps too much.

I can hear someone like Mike Gundy actually saying this.

(09-29-2022 06:26 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  If we're looking for the 16th member ... and safely assuming ND has abandoned the 15th spot ...

The two schools I would invite would be:

WVU and Cincy



Honorable Mention:

Central Florida Golden Knights
Baylor Bears
Kansas Jayhawks
Houston Cougars

And that's about it.

Agreed. The two team realistic options are WVU and Cincy.

Neither addition will prevent the ACC's best brands from being devoured by the SEC/B1G down the road, but I think both could help reduce the impact a little.

The only question NOW is will the payouts for the new Big 12 be more than the ACC can get in a "look-in" by ESPN with WVU and Cincy. To read B12 fans post on this site or to listen to their YouTubers, that isn't going to happen. And that may be correct. Time will tell.

For now, I am going to enjoy this current football season.

Obviously I am excited by the Orange doing as well as they have during the first third of the schedule but equally impressed by so many other ACC teams as well. The conference may not get a team to the the CFP playoff this year but this may be the strongest the ACC has started collectively from top to bottom in my short span of rooting for the conference overall. How it will finish is yet to be determined.

Cheers,
Neil

(09-30-2022 06:02 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 06:26 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  If we're looking for the 16th member ... and safely assuming ND has abandoned the 15th spot ...

The two schools I would invite would be:

WVU and Cincy



Honorable Mention:

Central Florida Golden Knights
Baylor Bears
Kansas Jayhawks
Houston Cougars

And that's about it.

Agreed. The two team realistic options are WVU and Cincy.

Neither addition will prevent the ACC's best brands from being devoured by the SEC/B1G down the road, but I think both could help reduce the impact a little.

The only question NOW is will the payouts for the new Big 12 be more than the ACC can get in a "look-in" by ESPN with WVU and Cincy. To read B12 fans post on this site or to listen to their YouTubers, that isn't going to happen. And that may be correct. Time will tell.

For now, I am going to enjoy this current football season.

Obviously I am excited by the Orange doing as well as they have during the first third of the schedule but equally impressed by so many other ACC teams as well. The conference may not get a team to the the CFP playoff this year but this may be the strongest the ACC has started collectively from top to bottom in my short span of rooting for the conference overall. How it will finish is yet to be determined.

Cheers,
Neil

Even without WVU and Cincy coming to the ACC, the Big XII will be hard pressed to match the ACC.

I know the YouTubers are very excited, but excitement doesn't translate to TV revenue. Losing Texas and Oklahoma is a huge blow. Trying to fill that hole with 4 schools is tough, because you're adding more mouths. To equal what they've been getting with UT and OU, they need to exceed their current revenue by two more shares.

I just don't see that happening.

(09-30-2022 06:33 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 06:02 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 06:26 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  If we're looking for the 16th member ... and safely assuming ND has abandoned the 15th spot ...

The two schools I would invite would be:

WVU and Cincy



Honorable Mention:

Central Florida Golden Knights
Baylor Bears
Kansas Jayhawks
Houston Cougars

And that's about it.

Agreed. The two team realistic options are WVU and Cincy.

Neither addition will prevent the ACC's best brands from being devoured by the SEC/B1G down the road, but I think both could help reduce the impact a little.

The only question NOW is will the payouts for the new Big 12 be more than the ACC can get in a "look-in" by ESPN with WVU and Cincy. To read B12 fans post on this site or to listen to their YouTubers, that isn't going to happen. And that may be correct. Time will tell.

For now, I am going to enjoy this current football season.

Obviously I am excited by the Orange doing as well as they have during the first third of the schedule but equally impressed by so many other ACC teams as well. The conference may not get a team to the the CFP playoff this year but this may be the strongest the ACC has started collectively from top to bottom in my short span of rooting for the conference overall. How it will finish is yet to be determined.

Cheers,
Neil

Even without WVU and Cincy coming to the ACC, the Big XII will be hard pressed to match the ACC.

I know the YouTubers are very excited, but excitement doesn't translate to TV revenue. Losing Texas and Oklahoma is a huge blow. Trying to fill that hole with 4 schools is tough, because you're adding more mouths. To equal what they've been getting with UT and OU, they need to exceed their current revenue by two more shares.

I just don't see that happening.

I'm not as confident as you about this happening. The plain truth is that ESPN has the media rights locked in until 2036 at a set price. No competitors. ESPN, FOX, and perhaps a few others will bid on the new B12 contract. The fact that ESPN got brands like FSU, Clemson, Miami, VT, UNC, etc at a bargain basement price may slow ESPN's roll on the B12 but that may have no impact on how others like FOX and streamers like Amazon will bid for various reasons - one of those reasons being that the NEW NEW B12 is likely to have that core 12 for a while since neither the B1G nor the SEC have shown much interest in adding any of those 12 teams to their conferences that I can recall.

I assume ESPN does have the desire to protect it's basically sole territory in the Southeast which might lead to an increase for the ACC in a look-in prior to the point the entire contract is up for bidding - but even this in my theory assumes the ACC might have to allow 4 of its teams to go to the SEC but that whole theory also assumes those 4 teams WANT to leave to the SEC and not the B1G and that the B1G has no interest in ACC teams beyond the 5 AAU members currently in the ACC (which considering both FSU and Miami have been mentioned as possible B1G targets is an assumption that is extremely shaky).

Hope this makes some sense.

Cheers,
Neil

I actually like the idea of giving UConn the ND deal, I think it’s a win-win. UConn will get a pay bump and exposure bump. 5 guaranteed games every year will make life easier on their athletic department. The ACC gets a reputation boost in basketball without the hit to their football reputation.

If I was the UConn prez or athletic director I would make this sales pitch. Perhaps adding a caveat that we join the ACC as full members if we make certain progress, example: a .400 win% or better vs ACC opponents in a 3 year period and at least a 30,000k home attendance average in those games. I think this is fair and attainable. I think UConn makes a lot of sense from a getting into new markets and branding standpoint while still being within the ACC footprint.

(09-30-2022 07:04 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 06:33 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 06:02 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 06:26 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  If we're looking for the 16th member ... and safely assuming ND has abandoned the 15th spot ...

The two schools I would invite would be:

WVU and Cincy



Honorable Mention:

Central Florida Golden Knights
Baylor Bears
Kansas Jayhawks
Houston Cougars

And that's about it.

Agreed. The two team realistic options are WVU and Cincy.

Neither addition will prevent the ACC's best brands from being devoured by the SEC/B1G down the road, but I think both could help reduce the impact a little.

The only question NOW is will the payouts for the new Big 12 be more than the ACC can get in a "look-in" by ESPN with WVU and Cincy. To read B12 fans post on this site or to listen to their YouTubers, that isn't going to happen. And that may be correct. Time will tell.

For now, I am going to enjoy this current football season.

Obviously I am excited by the Orange doing as well as they have during the first third of the schedule but equally impressed by so many other ACC teams as well. The conference may not get a team to the the CFP playoff this year but this may be the strongest the ACC has started collectively from top to bottom in my short span of rooting for the conference overall. How it will finish is yet to be determined.

Cheers,
Neil

Even without WVU and Cincy coming to the ACC, the Big XII will be hard pressed to match the ACC.

I know the YouTubers are very excited, but excitement doesn't translate to TV revenue. Losing Texas and Oklahoma is a huge blow. Trying to fill that hole with 4 schools is tough, because you're adding more mouths. To equal what they've been getting with UT and OU, they need to exceed their current revenue by two more shares.

I just don't see that happening.

I'm not as confident as you about this happening. The plain truth is that ESPN has the media rights locked in until 2036 at a set price. No competitors. ESPN, FOX, and perhaps a few others will bid on the new B12 contract. The fact that ESPN got brands like FSU, Clemson, Miami, VT, UNC, etc at a bargain basement price may slow ESPN's roll on the B12 but that may have no impact on how others like FOX and streamers like Amazon will bid for various reasons - one of those reasons being that the NEW NEW B12 is likely to have that core 12 for a while since neither the B1G nor the SEC have shown much interest in adding any of those 12 teams to their conferences that I can recall.

I assume ESPN does have the desire to protect it's basically sole territory in the Southeast which might lead to an increase for the ACC in a look-in prior to the point the entire contract is up for bidding - but even this in my theory assumes the ACC might have to allow 4 of its teams to go to the SEC but that whole theory also assumes those 4 teams WANT to leave to the SEC and not the B1G and that the B1G has no interest in ACC teams beyond the 5 AAU members currently in the ACC (which considering both FSU and Miami have been mentioned as possible B1G targets is an assumption that is extremely shaky).

Hope this makes some sense.

Cheers,
Neil

The Pac just received an incredibly low offer. And that’s with the market’s top realistic expansion candidates: UW, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona, Arizona State, etc.

I can’t fathom how a conference made up of passed over schools and schools ESPN literally let walk to the Big XII (Cincinnati, UCF, Houston) is going to receive a better deal. That’s even including the hypothetical scenario with the MTZ schools, which are not getting a sniff from the Big Ten, or SEC and ACC for that matter.

It just doesn’t add up. The Big XII is going to receive a much lower deal than the ACC.

(10-01-2022 07:56 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 07:04 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 06:33 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 06:02 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 06:26 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  If we're looking for the 16th member ... and safely assuming ND has abandoned the 15th spot ...

The two schools I would invite would be:

WVU and Cincy



Honorable Mention:

Central Florida Golden Knights
Baylor Bears
Kansas Jayhawks
Houston Cougars

And that's about it.

Agreed. The two team realistic options are WVU and Cincy.

Neither addition will prevent the ACC's best brands from being devoured by the SEC/B1G down the road, but I think both could help reduce the impact a little.

The only question NOW is will the payouts for the new Big 12 be more than the ACC can get in a "look-in" by ESPN with WVU and Cincy. To read B12 fans post on this site or to listen to their YouTubers, that isn't going to happen. And that may be correct. Time will tell.

For now, I am going to enjoy this current football season.

Obviously I am excited by the Orange doing as well as they have during the first third of the schedule but equally impressed by so many other ACC teams as well. The conference may not get a team to the the CFP playoff this year but this may be the strongest the ACC has started collectively from top to bottom in my short span of rooting for the conference overall. How it will finish is yet to be determined.

Cheers,
Neil

Even without WVU and Cincy coming to the ACC, the Big XII will be hard pressed to match the ACC.

I know the YouTubers are very excited, but excitement doesn't translate to TV revenue. Losing Texas and Oklahoma is a huge blow. Trying to fill that hole with 4 schools is tough, because you're adding more mouths. To equal what they've been getting with UT and OU, they need to exceed their current revenue by two more shares.

I just don't see that happening.

I'm not as confident as you about this happening. The plain truth is that ESPN has the media rights locked in until 2036 at a set price. No competitors. ESPN, FOX, and perhaps a few others will bid on the new B12 contract. The fact that ESPN got brands like FSU, Clemson, Miami, VT, UNC, etc at a bargain basement price may slow ESPN's roll on the B12 but that may have no impact on how others like FOX and streamers like Amazon will bid for various reasons - one of those reasons being that the NEW NEW B12 is likely to have that core 12 for a while since neither the B1G nor the SEC have shown much interest in adding any of those 12 teams to their conferences that I can recall.

I assume ESPN does have the desire to protect it's basically sole territory in the Southeast which might lead to an increase for the ACC in a look-in prior to the point the entire contract is up for bidding - but even this in my theory assumes the ACC might have to allow 4 of its teams to go to the SEC but that whole theory also assumes those 4 teams WANT to leave to the SEC and not the B1G and that the B1G has no interest in ACC teams beyond the 5 AAU members currently in the ACC (which considering both FSU and Miami have been mentioned as possible B1G targets is an assumption that is extremely shaky).

Hope this makes some sense.

Cheers,
Neil

The Pac just received an incredibly low offer. And that’s with the market’s top realistic expansion candidates: UW, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona, Arizona State, etc.

I can’t fathom how a conference made up of passed over schools and schools ESPN literally let walk to the Big XII (Cincinnati, UCF, Houston) is going to receive a better deal. That’s even including the hypothetical scenario with the MTZ schools, which are not getting a sniff from the Big Ten, or SEC and ACC for that matter.

It just doesn’t add up. The Big XII is going to receive a much lower deal than the ACC.

PLAY GOD

(09-30-2022 05:34 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 12:03 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 04:59 AM)schmolik Wrote:  So a Florida State fan is campaigning for UConn and a Syracuse fan is saying the ACC needs "some pedigree" in football?

The only game changer the ACC can add in football is Cincinnati and are they just good vs. AAC competition? The last thing the ACC needs is another Duke's Mayo Bowl level team. If I want to watch football, I'll watch the SEC. What's the difference between watching Clemson vs. West Virginia and Alabama vs. Arkansas who play this weekend? I come to the ACC to watch men's basketball and if you add UConn to Duke, North Carolina, and, when they come back, Syracuse, Virginia, and Louisville, they will be better. They've won three national championships this millennium and one more in 1999, the only available football team that can claim a national championship since 2000 is UCF:) And we're not even talking about their women's team yet.

You do realize we were in the CFP last season, don't you?

And you do realize that we just played Arkansas to a one score game on the road... and if we had a better QB would have won, right?

Perhaps educate yourself better before posting.

What kind of weak-ass argument is this?

If we had a better QB, we woulda won.

Well no sh!t sherlock.

EVERY team can say this. About EVERY game. EVERY year.

If only we had a better QB, we woulda won that one.

Duh.

Someone's clearly been hanging out with Big XII peeps too much.

I can hear someone like Mike Gundy actually saying this.

Well when you lose by 7 and your QB sails three TD passes over the heads of wide open receivers, it's a pretty accurate argument.

Hang in there little guy. Some day you'll get used to being the misfit in your shiny new conference... you know, like you've gotten used to being UK's b!tch in both football AND basketball.

(10-01-2022 09:17 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 05:34 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 12:03 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 04:59 AM)schmolik Wrote:  So a Florida State fan is campaigning for UConn and a Syracuse fan is saying the ACC needs "some pedigree" in football?

The only game changer the ACC can add in football is Cincinnati and are they just good vs. AAC competition? The last thing the ACC needs is another Duke's Mayo Bowl level team. If I want to watch football, I'll watch the SEC. What's the difference between watching Clemson vs. West Virginia and Alabama vs. Arkansas who play this weekend? I come to the ACC to watch men's basketball and if you add UConn to Duke, North Carolina, and, when they come back, Syracuse, Virginia, and Louisville, they will be better. They've won three national championships this millennium and one more in 1999, the only available football team that can claim a national championship since 2000 is UCF:) And we're not even talking about their women's team yet.

You do realize we were in the CFP last season, don't you?

And you do realize that we just played Arkansas to a one score game on the road... and if we had a better QB would have won, right?

Perhaps educate yourself better before posting.

What kind of weak-ass argument is this?

If we had a better QB, we woulda won.

Well no sh!t sherlock.

EVERY team can say this. About EVERY game. EVERY year.

If only we had a better QB, we woulda won that one.

Duh.

Someone's clearly been hanging out with Big XII peeps too much.

I can hear someone like Mike Gundy actually saying this.

Well when you lose by 7 and your QB sails three TD passes over the heads of wide open receivers, it's a pretty accurate argument.

Hang in there little guy. Some day you'll get used to being the misfit in your shiny new conference... you know, like you've gotten used to being UK's b!tch in both football AND basketball.

Ok,your welcome over here is quickly wearing thin. You lose in a debate so you resort to childish flaming? You are better than this.

(10-01-2022 09:27 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 09:17 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 05:34 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 12:03 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 04:59 AM)schmolik Wrote:  So a Florida State fan is campaigning for UConn and a Syracuse fan is saying the ACC needs "some pedigree" in football?

The only game changer the ACC can add in football is Cincinnati and are they just good vs. AAC competition? The last thing the ACC needs is another Duke's Mayo Bowl level team. If I want to watch football, I'll watch the SEC. What's the difference between watching Clemson vs. West Virginia and Alabama vs. Arkansas who play this weekend? I come to the ACC to watch men's basketball and if you add UConn to Duke, North Carolina, and, when they come back, Syracuse, Virginia, and Louisville, they will be better. They've won three national championships this millennium and one more in 1999, the only available football team that can claim a national championship since 2000 is UCF:) And we're not even talking about their women's team yet.

You do realize we were in the CFP last season, don't you?

And you do realize that we just played Arkansas to a one score game on the road... and if we had a better QB would have won, right?

Perhaps educate yourself better before posting.

What kind of weak-ass argument is this?

If we had a better QB, we woulda won.

Well no sh!t sherlock.

EVERY team can say this. About EVERY game. EVERY year.

If only we had a better QB, we woulda won that one.

Duh.

Someone's clearly been hanging out with Big XII peeps too much.

I can hear someone like Mike Gundy actually saying this.

Well when you lose by 7 and your QB sails three TD passes over the heads of wide open receivers, it's a pretty accurate argument.

Hang in there little guy. Some day you'll get used to being the misfit in your shiny new conference... you know, like you've gotten used to being UK's b!tch in both football AND basketball.

Ok,your welcome over here is quickly wearing thin. You lose in a debate so you resort to childish flaming? Knock it off. This is your last warning.

.

(10-01-2022 07:56 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 07:04 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 06:33 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 06:02 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(09-29-2022 06:26 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  If we're looking for the 16th member ... and safely assuming ND has abandoned the 15th spot ...

The two schools I would invite would be:

WVU and Cincy



Honorable Mention:

Central Florida Golden Knights
Baylor Bears
Kansas Jayhawks
Houston Cougars

And that's about it.

Agreed. The two team realistic options are WVU and Cincy.

Neither addition will prevent the ACC's best brands from being devoured by the SEC/B1G down the road, but I think both could help reduce the impact a little.

The only question NOW is will the payouts for the new Big 12 be more than the ACC can get in a "look-in" by ESPN with WVU and Cincy. To read B12 fans post on this site or to listen to their YouTubers, that isn't going to happen. And that may be correct. Time will tell.

For now, I am going to enjoy this current football season.

Obviously I am excited by the Orange doing as well as they have during the first third of the schedule but equally impressed by so many other ACC teams as well. The conference may not get a team to the the CFP playoff this year but this may be the strongest the ACC has started collectively from top to bottom in my short span of rooting for the conference overall. How it will finish is yet to be determined.

Cheers,
Neil

Even without WVU and Cincy coming to the ACC, the Big XII will be hard pressed to match the ACC.

I know the YouTubers are very excited, but excitement doesn't translate to TV revenue. Losing Texas and Oklahoma is a huge blow. Trying to fill that hole with 4 schools is tough, because you're adding more mouths. To equal what they've been getting with UT and OU, they need to exceed their current revenue by two more shares.

I just don't see that happening.

I'm not as confident as you about this happening. The plain truth is that ESPN has the media rights locked in until 2036 at a set price. No competitors. ESPN, FOX, and perhaps a few others will bid on the new B12 contract. The fact that ESPN got brands like FSU, Clemson, Miami, VT, UNC, etc at a bargain basement price may slow ESPN's roll on the B12 but that may have no impact on how others like FOX and streamers like Amazon will bid for various reasons - one of those reasons being that the NEW NEW B12 is likely to have that core 12 for a while since neither the B1G nor the SEC have shown much interest in adding any of those 12 teams to their conferences that I can recall.

I assume ESPN does have the desire to protect it's basically sole territory in the Southeast which might lead to an increase for the ACC in a look-in prior to the point the entire contract is up for bidding - but even this in my theory assumes the ACC might have to allow 4 of its teams to go to the SEC but that whole theory also assumes those 4 teams WANT to leave to the SEC and not the B1G and that the B1G has no interest in ACC teams beyond the 5 AAU members currently in the ACC (which considering both FSU and Miami have been mentioned as possible B1G targets is an assumption that is extremely shaky).

Hope this makes some sense.

Cheers,
Neil

The Pac just received an incredibly low offer. And that’s with the market’s top realistic expansion candidates: UW, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona, Arizona State, etc.

I can’t fathom how a conference made up of passed over schools and schools ESPN literally let walk to the Big XII (Cincinnati, UCF, Houston) is going to receive a better deal. That’s even including the hypothetical scenario with the MTZ schools, which are not getting a sniff from the Big Ten, or SEC and ACC for that matter.

It just doesn’t add up. The Big XII is going to receive a much lower deal than the ACC.

Agreed. If, say, Fox offers the Big XII a lot more than ESPN is offering the Pac-10, it means the fix is in - that's the ONLY way it happens, IMO.

UConn wins!!!

(10-01-2022 06:22 PM)schmolik Wrote:  UConn wins!!!

Invite them before the BigTen does.

(10-01-2022 06:22 PM)schmolik Wrote:  UConn wins!!!

Good for them.
They now have 2 wins and haven't had more than 3 since 2015.
Maybe this is the year.
They might actually be good. 3 of their losses are to Syracuse, Michigan and NCSU

UConn just beat PAC12 expansion candidate Fresno State. UConn is not that bad.

(10-01-2022 11:17 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 06:22 PM)schmolik Wrote:  UConn wins!!!

Good for them.
They now have 2 wins and haven't had more than 3 since 2015.
Maybe this is the year.
They might actually be good. 3 of their losses are to Syracuse, Michigan and NCSU

I believe each of those losses were by about 5 TD's. I just cant seem to bring myself to believe that Uconn is any good at this point. I believe Fresno is now 1-4, so they dont seem to be any good either.

(10-01-2022 11:43 PM)ArQ Wrote:  UConn just beat PAC12 expansion candidate Fresno State. UConn is not that bad.

Having been raised in San Jose, California, let me tell you Fresno State University is not nor ever will be, a serious candidate for the PAC-12. Trust me, the UC schools will never accept being in the same conference with CSU schools.
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UC = University of California
CSU = California State University

(10-02-2022 01:17 AM)JAE_VT Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 11:43 PM)ArQ Wrote:  UConn just beat PAC12 expansion candidate Fresno State. UConn is not that bad.

Having been raised in San Jose, California, let me tell you Fresno State University is not nor ever will be, a serious candidate for the PAC-12. Trust me, the UC schools will never accept being in the same conference with CSU schools.
.
UC = University of California
CSU = California State University

You're assuming Cal isn't heading off to join UCLA in the Big 10.

(10-02-2022 09:38 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 01:17 AM)JAE_VT Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 11:43 PM)ArQ Wrote:  UConn just beat PAC12 expansion candidate Fresno State. UConn is not that bad.

Having been raised in San Jose, California, let me tell you Fresno State University is not nor ever will be, a serious candidate for the PAC-12. Trust me, the UC schools will never accept being in the same conference with CSU schools.
.
UC = University of California
CSU = California State University

You're assuming Cal isn't heading off to join UCLA in the Big 10.

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