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ACC Should Offer Washington State, Oregon State, and USF
(10-23-2023 07:23 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  
(10-23-2023 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  So much for SMU being in an eastern based conference. Better up our travel budget.

Just you wait till we get Hawaii.


Direct flights from Austin now - I’ll allow it.
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(10-23-2023 07:09 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I was listening to a Pitt centric podcast last night. According to the host, who is JJ Kitchens, The ACC is interested in Washington State and Oregon State as travel partners for Calford. He claims they are waiting for the final legal issues surrounding the PAC to be resolved. If anyone is interested, I have linked the video below. He starts that discussion about the 1:19 mark. I can't vouch for his sources, I only recently started listening to him, but I found it interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/live/qoiW4CqPQIQ?feature=shared

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Washington State is a travel partner for Idaho or Montana, not anyone else.
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You can't fly to Pullman Washington without having to go through Seattle or Idaho. It's 80 miles from Pullman to the airport in Spokane. I'll eat my keyboard if WSU gets an ACC invite.
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(10-23-2023 07:40 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  You can't fly to Pullman Washington without having to go through Seattle or Idaho. It's 80 miles from Pullman to the airport in Spokane. I'll eat my keyboard if WSU gets an ACC invite.

The preceding was provided to further the public's general knowledge and should not be relied upon for any purpose.

I just thought it was interesting and I haven't heard it elsewhere.
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RE: ACC Should Offer Washington State, Oregon State, and USF
Adding Stanford, Cal, and SMU added schools with a combined endowment of $45 B.

1. 36 B Stanford
2. 17 B Notre Dame
3. 12 B Main Duke Endowment (There are two others)
4. 10 B UVa
5. 7 B Cal-Berkley
6. 6 B UNC
7. 5 B Pitt
8. 3 B GT and BC
9. 2 B NC State, SMU, Wake Forest
12. 1.8 B Syracuse
13. 1.7 B VT
14. 1.3 B Miami
15. 1.2 B Clemson
16. .9 B Louis
17. 750 M FSU

Endowment is a good indicator of how much money you can come up with - not how much you are willing to spend on sports, but what you might peel off to spend. Washington State and Oregon State have endowments of 1.2 and 1 Billion, respectively. Tulane for example has an endowment of 2 Billion and Rice has one of 8 Billion. Given their isolation and given the fact that Health Sciences in Oregon has been moved to Portland - how do they compete long term. OSU needs a green Knight to step up for them but that's not going to happen. Nothing closes the vast nothingness that is the Pallouse.
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(10-23-2023 08:07 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(10-23-2023 07:40 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  You can't fly to Pullman Washington without having to go through Seattle or Idaho. It's 80 miles from Pullman to the airport in Spokane. I'll eat my keyboard if WSU gets an ACC invite.

The preceding was provided to further the public's general knowledge and should not be relied upon for any purpose.

I just thought it was interesting and I haven't heard it elsewhere.

I bet the guy saying it is a creature of the East who has not traveled extensively in the American west between the Pacific Coast and the Missouri River. The spatial isolation of WSU and U of Idaho is difficult to comprehend for an Easterner. It makes NW Pa near the boarder with NY look populated.
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(10-23-2023 08:16 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  I bet the guy saying it is a creature of the East who has not traveled extensively in the American west between the Pacific Coast and the Missouri River. The spatial isolation of WSU and U of Idaho is difficult to comprehend for an Easterner. It makes NW Pa near the boarder with NY look populated.

FACT. The wide, open space out West is vast, and once you get a few dozen miles outside of Seattle, the rest of Washington looks like a state park (i.e. hardly any people live there). Oregon is the same, only without a Seattle.
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(10-23-2023 07:24 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(10-23-2023 07:23 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  
(10-23-2023 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  So much for SMU being in an eastern based conference. Better up our travel budget.

Just you wait till we get Hawaii.


Direct flights from Austin now - I’ll allow it.

Really? Wow...I remember AUS when the new Terminal opened in 99. Times have changed
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(09-09-2023 12:53 PM)MegaCard Wrote:  I'm good with Oregon State and Washington State to help out travel for Cal and Stanford.

I'd rather have San Diego State than USF (SDSU needs better investment in football program after getting new stadium), but they seem redundant with two California schools already in the conference.

But I agree with others that nothing should happen until 2030 unless we lose some schools before then. There may be very attractive Big 12 schools to poach then.

San Diego State wouldn't really be redundant. California, like Texas & Florida, is a huge state, IMO. San Diego is located in the southern part of the state, which doesn't really follow reams in the northern part of the state. If the ACC had a L.A. based team, like USC and/or UCLA, I could see your point, and would agree, but the ACC does not. In fact, back when the Pac just lost USC & UCLA, San Diego State was the one unanimous expansion target for the Pac 12 before UO & UW left., so no, the Aztecs wouldn't be redundant at all.
I still think the ACC should take USF though, more as a replacement for FSU. The ACC needs its Florida recruiting grounds, IMO.
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(10-23-2023 08:52 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(10-23-2023 08:16 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  I bet the guy saying it is a creature of the East who has not traveled extensively in the American west between the Pacific Coast and the Missouri River. The spatial isolation of WSU and U of Idaho is difficult to comprehend for an Easterner. It makes NW Pa near the boarder with NY look populated.

FACT. The wide, open space out West is vast, and once you get a few dozen miles outside of Seattle, the rest of Washington looks like a state park (i.e. hardly any people live there). Oregon is the same, only without a Seattle.

Replace Seattle with Portland. Portland is huge!!
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RE: ACC Should Offer Washington State, Oregon State, and USF
(10-23-2023 08:12 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  Adding Stanford, Cal, and SMU added schools with a combined endowment of $45 B.

1. 36 B Stanford
2. 17 B Notre Dame
3. 12 B Main Duke Endowment (There are two others)
4. 10 B UVa
5. 7 B Cal-Berkley
6. 6 B UNC
7. 5 B Pitt
8. 3 B GT and BC
9. 2 B NC State, SMU, Wake Forest
12. 1.8 B Syracuse
13. 1.7 B VT
14. 1.3 B Miami
15. 1.2 B Clemson
16. .9 B Louis
17. 750 M FSU

Endowment is a good indicator of how much money you can come up with - not how much you are willing to spend on sports, but what you might peel off to spend. Washington State and Oregon State have endowments of 1.2 and 1 Billion, respectively. Tulane for example has an endowment of 2 Billion and Rice has one of 8 Billion. Given their isolation and given the fact that Health Sciences in Oregon has been moved to Portland - how do they compete long term. OSU needs a green Knight to step up for them but that's not going to happen. Nothing closes the vast nothingness that is the Pallouse.

OSU might have a "Phil Knight" in the Reser family, who owns Reser's Fine Foods. You may have come across their products in the deli section of your grocery store. I know Walmart used to carry some Reser products.

Also, here's the markets that follow Oregon State on the radio. I use that as a gauge to see how much coverage a particular team gets:

https://osubeavers.com/sports/2013/7/9/208625961

Tillamook & Salem are practically suburbs of Portland, and Eugene is Oregon's second largest city, IMO. Corvallis, where Oregon State is located, is prretty much a suburb of Eugene. With two stations already covering the Beavers in Portland, I'd say that Portland follows the Beavers closely and Eugene does as well with radio station in Eugene and, of course, the radio station in Corvallis, the Beavers' home.

As for the Washington State Cougars, I have a link to their radio network below. Pretty impressive that they blanket the state of Washington ( Seatrle included), and have radio stations in Anchorage and Portland!!

https://wsucougars.com/sports/2013/4/18/208264731
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(10-23-2023 08:07 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(10-23-2023 07:40 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  You can't fly to Pullman Washington without having to go through Seattle or Idaho. It's 80 miles from Pullman to the airport in Spokane. I'll eat my keyboard if WSU gets an ACC invite.

The preceding was provided to further the public's general knowledge and should not be relied upon for any purpose.

I just thought it was interesting and I haven't heard it elsewhere.

I started to watch that YouTube video until I noticed that the guy (JJ) had only 750 subscribers and figured he was either a rookie or not a very good source of information.
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We don't need to Offer Washington State and Oregon, we don't need Stanford or Cal either. I assume that we only invited the two Bay Area schools so that the ACC could eventually trade them to the B1G for two of their current members.
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(10-24-2023 04:35 AM)XLance Wrote:  We don't need to Offer Washington State and Oregon, we don't need Stanford or Cal either. I assume that we only invited the two Bay Area schools so that the ACC could eventually trade them to the B1G for two of their current members.

Like who? Rutgirls and Merry Land?03-puke
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(10-24-2023 08:03 AM)LaBradfordsTWill Wrote:  
(10-24-2023 04:35 AM)XLance Wrote:  We don't need to Offer Washington State and Oregon, we don't need Stanford or Cal either. I assume that we only invited the two Bay Area schools so that the ACC could eventually trade them to the B1G for two of their current members.

Like who? Rutgirls and Merry Land?03-puke

I think most of us would make that trade.
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(10-20-2023 05:15 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  https://x.com/txfblife/status/1715479864...OBPKLg0WDw


Did you know that SMU’s Peruna is the only mascot to have ever killed another college mascot? It's true. It happened 89 years ago with the very first Peruna, Peruna I. At the game against Fordham University in New York City, Peruna kicked the Fordham Ram mascot so hard in the head that he killed it immediately

Other incidents:

• Kicked Bevo, the live Texas longhorn mascot, in the ribs sending Bevo to the ground

• Attempted to mount the Texas Tech horse

• Delayed a game in 2022 by defecating on the playing field

One of the Bevo’s died during a game at Louisville in the early 90’s. Heart failure from losing to a football team that played in a baseball stadium.
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(10-24-2023 08:30 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  
(10-24-2023 08:03 AM)LaBradfordsTWill Wrote:  
(10-24-2023 04:35 AM)XLance Wrote:  We don't need to Offer Washington State and Oregon, we don't need Stanford or Cal either. I assume that we only invited the two Bay Area schools so that the ACC could eventually trade them to the B1G for two of their current members.

Like who? Rutgirls and Merry Land?03-puke

I think most of us would make that trade.

I'd rather have any two of Cincy, USF, Memphis, Tulane, or UCF over those two.05-stirthepot
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(10-24-2023 08:31 AM)TopperCard Wrote:  
(10-20-2023 05:15 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  https://x.com/txfblife/status/1715479864...OBPKLg0WDw


Did you know that SMU’s Peruna is the only mascot to have ever killed another college mascot? It's true. It happened 89 years ago with the very first Peruna, Peruna I. At the game against Fordham University in New York City, Peruna kicked the Fordham Ram mascot so hard in the head that he killed it immediately

Other incidents:

• Kicked Bevo, the live Texas longhorn mascot, in the ribs sending Bevo to the ground

• Attempted to mount the Texas Tech horse

• Delayed a game in 2022 by defecating on the playing field

One of the Bevo’s died during a game at Louisville in the early 90’s. Heart failure from losing to a football team that played in a baseball stadium.

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(10-24-2023 08:03 AM)LaBradfordsTWill Wrote:  
(10-24-2023 04:35 AM)XLance Wrote:  We don't need to Offer Washington State and Oregon, we don't need Stanford or Cal either. I assume that we only invited the two Bay Area schools so that the ACC could eventually trade them to the B1G for two of their current members.

Like who? Rutgirls and Merry Land?03-puke

I'd rather trade them to the Big XII for Cincy and one of either TCU or Houston.
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