(03-25-2024 12:08 PM)WKUYG Wrote: You complain about spending but gladly take that money when its being spent on you. You seem to think because I want government out of my life I care that you are getting a "tax break" that I'm not getting.
Not the case at all I point this out because of your complaining and complaining and yet you gladly accept your handout. If I had the choice I would much rather you and other Americans be getting back tax dollars or reduction in student loans....
It is only a handout if I'm getting back more than I pay in taxes. I'm getting my tax dollars returned to me. I don't get more than I pay. Completely different.
Quote:than the money we send to other countries, banks, or large corporations. When I say corporations I'm not taking tax breaks that are fair or good for building jobs or higher pay. I'm talking basically handouts like you get just for having children.
But if I had to pick one of those...much rather you get your handout.
Banks don't deserve bailouts. Large corporations (GM, Ford, Chrysler) don't deserve bailouts. Tax breaks to build new state of the art factories and create jobs? Depending on the terms I can be persuaded that they are good for the community. I would be stupid not to take my child tax credit that was passed by our congress. That money gets spent in my community creating jobs as it is, not sent around the country where there is no benefit here.
Quote:You say you blame congress but I think you blamed President Trump 100x more than you blame congress. Maybe I'm mistaken on that but that is what sticks out the most when you are doing your complaining. I think I've pointed this out before to you and you disagreed. The President is going to play a role in spending but its mostly on congress that is not willing to make major cuts.
I blame both parties, of which Trump is the head of one of them. I just get tired of hearing how he is a conservative, when he was pushing to spend more money (not to mention his clear cheating in relationship(s)). That is my biggest complaint about his term, plus he said some of the most dispicable things I've ever heard from a politician. I'll say it again, I expect a level of decorum from my elected officials.
Quote:Again I will take everything I can to keep from paying one cent over what the government says I owe them. But then again I'm not the one complaining and complaining and complaining about how important it is to cut out most handouts.
Where have I complained about all the handouts? I've complained about the deficit. Not anywhere close to the same. You once again are projecting. I don't think that there aren't people in need that those programs help, but I question whether it is the government's job to do it or instead the job of charities and other non-government organizations.
Quote:Lets be very clear a business deduction is 100% different than getting a dollar for dollar "tax credit" and the only reason you get this is because you have a child.
But when it comes to principles that I think is the most important factor. I stand on them and have made sacrifices that most people wouldn't even think about doing. I had my liberty (along with a lot of dollars) taken away because I believed in something so much that I would not bend the knee knowing it would put a mother and child in danger of more abuse. Not family or someone that was a friend but a mother and child that the only connection I had was to fund them to get away from the abuser.
So if you believe spending is the most dangerous thing to this country. You do and said as much so why not stand behind that conviction even if it takes money out of your pocket? Personally I don't believe you should but as a core belief for you....
Returning my tax money is not spending. Simple as that. Had they returned more money than I paid in for said year, then by all means that is spending *ON ME AND MY FAMILY*. I'm not part of the 50% of the country that either pays zero in taxes or gets more than I put in.
I feel for the abused family. It happens every day. I donate money to different charities every year that support women and children who are trying to get away from abusive relationships. I donate money to organizations who try to help drug addicts get back on their feet. I have bought food and paid for gas for friends who were struggling, and donated money to friends who were recovering from surgery or cancer and couldn't pay their bills.
Again, the point of the matter is that the government has become too big and has taken on the job of charity instead of what it was intended to do.
And before you go back to the Ukraine funding that I have been in favor of, that is providing for national security of our country. We are part of NATO and it is in our best interest to stop Putin there before he goes into a country that causes article 5 to be enacted. That would not only cause us to spend considerably more than we have already, it will cause us to send troops into battle. You can argue whether we should have signed on to NATO and article 5, but since it is there I have to look at the responsiblities for which our country has signed up.
I'll also add that when our interest bill is larger than our defense budget (pretty sure I read that we'll spend more on interest than on defense this year) then we have a HUGE issue. That issue has come through both parties and their spending.
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