(02-29-2024 11:09 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:  I still believe we should have added UMass..
They are jus such a perfect fit in this conference. I think football will improve and basketball will continue to get better under Frank Martin.

The league was too traumatized by UConn football

(03-01-2024 09:10 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 11:09 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:  I still believe we should have added UMass..
They are jus such a perfect fit in this conference. I think football will improve and basketball will continue to get better under Frank Martin.

The league was too traumatized by UConn football

This. If UMass was as good as a Liberty in football, there might be a conversation. There are no eyeballs or recruits in the Northeast, and I don't think any fans of our mostly Southeast+Texas fans would travel there for games. There is really no upside to a UMass add.

Dayton/VCU are no brainers for performance.

SLU is a no brainer for geography, giving Wichita/Memphis/Tulsa a great drivable travel partner. Also SLU has considerable history with many AAC schools through Metro, Great Midwest, and CUSA V1.

At some point all these schools, with the A-3: Memphis, Temple, WSU, Tulsa, UAB, Dayton, VCU, SLU would have to have some years with 4+ bids

(03-06-2024 04:29 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  Dayton/VCU are no brainers for performance.

SLU is a no brainer for geography, giving Wichita/Memphis/Tulsa a great drivable travel partner. Also SLU has considerable history with many AAC schools through Metro, Great Midwest, and CUSA V1.

At some point all these schools, with the A-3: Memphis, Temple, WSU, Tulsa, UAB, Dayton, VCU, SLU would have to have some years with 4+ bids

clt asks what is the "A-3"?

(03-06-2024 04:34 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 04:29 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  Dayton/VCU are no brainers for performance.

SLU is a no brainer for geography, giving Wichita/Memphis/Tulsa a great drivable travel partner. Also SLU has considerable history with many AAC schools through Metro, Great Midwest, and CUSA V1.

At some point all these schools, with the A-3: Memphis, Temple, WSU, Tulsa, UAB, Dayton, VCU, SLU would have to have some years with 4+ bids

clt asks what is the "A-3"?

Dayton, VCU, SLU

(03-06-2024 04:35 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 04:34 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 04:29 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  Dayton/VCU are no brainers for performance.

SLU is a no brainer for geography, giving Wichita/Memphis/Tulsa a great drivable travel partner. Also SLU has considerable history with many AAC schools through Metro, Great Midwest, and CUSA V1.

At some point all these schools, with the A-3: Memphis, Temple, WSU, Tulsa, UAB, Dayton, VCU, SLU would have to have some years with 4+ bids

clt asks what is the "A-3"?

Dayton, VCU, SLU

We've been conference mates with them longer than anyone else currently in the AAC minus Tulane, I believe. Actually, depending on the Memphis-St Louis overlap in the Missouri Valley they might actually on top of even Tulane.

The move makes sense, they either had to join a football conference or drop back to FCS. I'm not sure I'd have hated either play but the admin and alumni seem to be on board with moving forward so good for them.

I hope they upgrade their facilities, although I doubt there will be a ton of pressure on that front in the MAC.

(03-06-2024 06:16 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  The move makes sense, they either had to join a football conference or drop back to FCS. I'm not sure I'd have hated either play but the admin and alumni seem to be on board with moving forward so good for them.

I hope they upgrade their facilities, although I doubt there will be a ton of pressure on that front in the MAC.

They should dominate the MAC in hoops and regain some basketball prominence. Their teams always have some talent despite mostly mediocre results overall. Football needed a home so good for them.

I’m not sure the AAC in its current form could nab A-10 teams, but would love to see it. I just think most teams would see it as a lateral move at best, and getting involved with football may not be in their best interest. Hope I’m wrong

(03-06-2024 11:06 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 06:16 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  The move makes sense, they either had to join a football conference or drop back to FCS. I'm not sure I'd have hated either play but the admin and alumni seem to be on board with moving forward so good for them.

I hope they upgrade their facilities, although I doubt there will be a ton of pressure on that front in the MAC.

They should dominate the MAC in hoops and regain some basketball prominence. Their teams always have some talent despite mostly mediocre results overall. Football needed a home so good for them.

I’m not sure the AAC in its current form could nab A-10 teams, but would love to see it. I just think most teams would see it as a lateral move at best, and getting involved with football may not be in their best interest. Hope I’m wrong

I just don’t see the big money in it. But I do think an AAC vs A10 deal of let’s say 2-4 games a year matching the top teams would help both. For example this year.
Memphis would play Dayton and VCU
FAU plays Dayton and VCU
And so on.
Richmond and Loyola just like Charlotte and USF weren’t picked that high and actually USF played Loyola and UMass this year.
I think AAC needs to work on all schools removing Quad4 teams from scheduling

(03-07-2024 06:36 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 11:06 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 06:16 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  The move makes sense, they either had to join a football conference or drop back to FCS. I'm not sure I'd have hated either play but the admin and alumni seem to be on board with moving forward so good for them.

I hope they upgrade their facilities, although I doubt there will be a ton of pressure on that front in the MAC.

They should dominate the MAC in hoops and regain some basketball prominence. Their teams always have some talent despite mostly mediocre results overall. Football needed a home so good for them.

I’m not sure the AAC in its current form could nab A-10 teams, but would love to see it. I just think most teams would see it as a lateral move at best, and getting involved with football may not be in their best interest. Hope I’m wrong

I just don’t see the big money in it. But I do think an AAC vs A10 deal of let’s say 2-4 games a year matching the top teams would help both. For example this year.
Memphis would play Dayton and VCU
FAU plays Dayton and VCU
And so on.
Richmond and Loyola just like Charlotte and USF weren’t picked that high and actually USF played Loyola and UMass this year.
I think AAC needs to work on all schools removing Quad4 teams from scheduling

Why would we do that? The A10 is and will continue to be a one bid league, this is the first year in like a decade where they will be ranked higher than us as a conference and we are still likely to end up with more bids than them. This is with a conference wide adjustment, a down Wichita, and a terrible Tulsa.

There is zero reason to schedule that. The rankings and tradition are on our side as is the money. Some A10 schools might choose to stay because of football or maybe regional rivalries, but there are zero schools who would consider going the other way. Most schools in the AAC don't have a lot of difficulty scheduling strong. In particular the traditionally good schools don't. Most of our sos "issues" are choices currently.

(03-07-2024 05:58 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(03-07-2024 06:36 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 11:06 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 06:16 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  The move makes sense, they either had to join a football conference or drop back to FCS. I'm not sure I'd have hated either play but the admin and alumni seem to be on board with moving forward so good for them.

I hope they upgrade their facilities, although I doubt there will be a ton of pressure on that front in the MAC.

They should dominate the MAC in hoops and regain some basketball prominence. Their teams always have some talent despite mostly mediocre results overall. Football needed a home so good for them.

I’m not sure the AAC in its current form could nab A-10 teams, but would love to see it. I just think most teams would see it as a lateral move at best, and getting involved with football may not be in their best interest. Hope I’m wrong

I just don’t see the big money in it. But I do think an AAC vs A10 deal of let’s say 2-4 games a year matching the top teams would help both. For example this year.
Memphis would play Dayton and VCU
FAU plays Dayton and VCU
And so on.
Richmond and Loyola just like Charlotte and USF weren’t picked that high and actually USF played Loyola and UMass this year.
I think AAC needs to work on all schools removing Quad4 teams from scheduling

Why would we do that? The A10 is and will continue to be a one bid league, this is the first year in like a decade where they will be ranked higher than us as a conference and we are still likely to end up with more bids than them. This is with a conference wide adjustment, a down Wichita, and a terrible Tulsa.

There is zero reason to schedule that. The rankings and tradition are on our side as is the money. Some A10 schools might choose to stay because of football or maybe regional rivalries, but there are zero schools who would consider going the other way. Most schools in the AAC don't have a lot of difficulty scheduling strong. In particular the traditionally good schools don't. Most of our sos "issues" are choices currently.

Then the league should tell schools to not schedule that many low quality schools for out of conference

(03-07-2024 07:21 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(03-07-2024 05:58 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(03-07-2024 06:36 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 11:06 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(03-06-2024 06:16 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  The move makes sense, they either had to join a football conference or drop back to FCS. I'm not sure I'd have hated either play but the admin and alumni seem to be on board with moving forward so good for them.

I hope they upgrade their facilities, although I doubt there will be a ton of pressure on that front in the MAC.

They should dominate the MAC in hoops and regain some basketball prominence. Their teams always have some talent despite mostly mediocre results overall. Football needed a home so good for them.

I’m not sure the AAC in its current form could nab A-10 teams, but would love to see it. I just think most teams would see it as a lateral move at best, and getting involved with football may not be in their best interest. Hope I’m wrong

I just don’t see the big money in it. But I do think an AAC vs A10 deal of let’s say 2-4 games a year matching the top teams would help both. For example this year.
Memphis would play Dayton and VCU
FAU plays Dayton and VCU
And so on.
Richmond and Loyola just like Charlotte and USF weren’t picked that high and actually USF played Loyola and UMass this year.
I think AAC needs to work on all schools removing Quad4 teams from scheduling

Why would we do that? The A10 is and will continue to be a one bid league, this is the first year in like a decade where they will be ranked higher than us as a conference and we are still likely to end up with more bids than them. This is with a conference wide adjustment, a down Wichita, and a terrible Tulsa.

There is zero reason to schedule that. The rankings and tradition are on our side as is the money. Some A10 schools might choose to stay because of football or maybe regional rivalries, but there are zero schools who would consider going the other way. Most schools in the AAC don't have a lot of difficulty scheduling strong. In particular the traditionally good schools don't. Most of our sos "issues" are choices currently.

Then the league should tell schools to not schedule that many low quality schools for out of conference

Not too long ago the league told schools that they only wanted them to play one true road game in their out of conference schedule, well ECU for some reason took that as gospel. ECU is the type of program that should have 4-5 home games OoC and the rest away from Minges. Nobody in the athletic department wants to do this however.

The main keys to OOC games helping the AAC’s overall profile are playing winnable games and winning them by a lot or playing a tough schedule and winning most of them. Quad 4 defeats are killers.

(03-08-2024 07:37 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The main keys to OOC games helping the AAC’s overall profile are playing winnable games and winning them by a lot or playing a tough schedule and winning most of them. Quad 4 defeats are killers.

clt agrees, this is the way forward

(03-08-2024 08:08 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(03-08-2024 07:37 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The main keys to OOC games helping the AAC’s overall profile are playing winnable games and winning them by a lot or playing a tough schedule and winning most of them. Quad 4 defeats are killers.

clt agrees, this is the way forward

This is the way

This is the way.


Really want to see VCU, Dayton, or Saint Louis added. Hell get all three.

(As a Blazer fan, I apologize for our OOC performance this season)

(03-08-2024 01:29 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  This is the way.


Really want to see VCU, Dayton, or Saint Louis added. Hell get all three.

(As a Blazer fan, I apologize for our OOC performance this season)

Its the curse of all who play in the AAC. we often lose OOC games except the really big ones for some reason.

The benefit for St. Louis, Dayton, and VCU would be the exposure, not so much the increase in revenue, but that may be enough to entice them to join as a block.

Our primary focus probably needs to be getting our former ‘basketball first’ schools back to where they were performing twenty years ago. Tulsa, Charlotte, Temple, Tulane, and now Wichita State have all fallen back significantly in basketball. We need those schools to perform at a high level again just as much as we need an infusion of good programs.

(03-09-2024 12:05 PM)Ourland Wrote:  The benefit for St. Louis, Dayton, and VCU would be the exposure, not so much the increase in revenue, but that may be enough to entice them to join as a block.

Our primary focus probably needs to be getting our former ‘basketball first’ schools back to where they were performing twenty years ago. Tulsa, Charlotte, Temple, Tulane, and now Wichita State have all fallen back significantly in basketball. We need those schools to perform at a high level again just as much as we need an infusion of good programs.

clt says we are CBI champs and will be a 3 or 4 seed in the aac tourney. are we as good as the lutz days? not yet, but on the way back

(03-10-2024 01:00 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(02-26-2024 06:02 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Wow. Thats unreal.

UMASS was a national brand in 1995 and now they are playing Toledo in basketball.

Thats really really sad for UMASS fans.

Excuse me for the intrusion !!
Playing against Toledo, how low has UMASS come !! - Oh, the outrage!!
Have Tulsa come to T-town and play the Rockets in Savage Arena !!
Carry on while I show myself to the door !!