Bobby Pettiford just entered the portal.

6 down. A few more to go.

Bobby Pettiford
Brandon Johnson
Jaden Walker
Quentin Diboundje
Kalib LaCount
Ben Bayela

I see this moving towards the universities signing contracts with these guys, becoming employees of the school for probably 2 year periods.

(03-27-2024 04:34 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I see this moving towards the universities signing contracts with these guys, becoming employees of the school for probably 2 year periods.

Probably, but then what do you do about all the college athletes in sports that are non-revenue? Only basketball, football and in some places, women's basketball, earn enough money to pay their way.

Do you pay them, even though they generate little or no revenue? Why?

Alejandro Vasquez will return for UAB.

Daniel Ortiz will not. 6-0 (shorter than that) 3-point specialist, weak ball handler. Ortiz could prosper in the right system for him.

James White will not. Mississippi transfer, expected to do great things, did not and left team in December.

(03-27-2024 04:34 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I see this moving towards the universities signing contracts with these guys, becoming employees of the school for probably 2 year periods.

They will but there will need to be unionization and collective bargaining as well.

(03-27-2024 02:26 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Bobby Pettiford just entered the portal.

6 down. A few more to go.

Bobby Pettiford
Brandon Johnson
Jaden Walker
Quentin Diboundje
Kalib LaCount
Ben Bayela

Feels like a roster dump.

Not sure what to make of it...although, based on results... it was either coaches, players, or both... and it looks like its the player exodus happening. It also appears from some accounts, we are going to be hitting the portal hard. I still don't like the fact a 2nd year rookie ( first job) coach is gutting a roster with some decent experience to try and move forward.

(03-27-2024 04:57 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 04:34 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I see this moving towards the universities signing contracts with these guys, becoming employees of the school for probably 2 year periods.

Probably, but then what do you do about all the college athletes in sports that are non-revenue? Only basketball, football and in some places, women's basketball, earn enough money to pay their way.

Do you pay them, even though they generate little or no revenue? Why?

Well Universities do not pay all their employers the same,so probably the non revenue might make little. Would you still count scholarships as money? Would you just give them money and make th3 pay for classes etc?
Lots to be determined, but definitely see it going in some way where the colleges have more control.

(03-27-2024 07:35 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 04:57 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 04:34 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I see this moving towards the universities signing contracts with these guys, becoming employees of the school for probably 2 year periods.

Probably, but then what do you do about all the college athletes in sports that are non-revenue? Only basketball, football and in some places, women's basketball, earn enough money to pay their way.

Do you pay them, even though they generate little or no revenue? Why?

Well Universities do not pay all their employers the same,so probably the non revenue might make little. Would you still count scholarships as money? Would you just give them money and make th3 pay for classes etc?
Lots to be determined, but definitely see it going in some way where the colleges have more control.

I'm not sure. So far, the universities have been slapped down in court at every turn. They are not allowed to limit NIL, so how would they be allowed to limit player compensation?

I guess if they are employees, they can take the salary or leave it, who knows? And there would be a union, etc.

Long way to go to get there. Lots of opportunities for twists and turns. And universities always find a way to screw it up.

(03-27-2024 07:19 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 02:26 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Bobby Pettiford just entered the portal.

6 down. A few more to go.

Bobby Pettiford
Brandon Johnson
Jaden Walker
Quentin Diboundje
Kalib LaCount
Ben Bayela

Feels like a roster dump.

Not sure what to make of it...although, based on results... it was either coaches, players, or both... and it looks like its the player exodus happening. It also appears from some accounts, we are going to be hitting the portal hard. I still don't like the fact a 2nd year rookie ( first job) coach is gutting a roster with some decent experience to try and move forward.

2 off seasons ago, UConn had a bunch of transfers/unexpected departures, including 2 4 star Freshman that were expected to do great things in Storrs when they were signed. People were up in arms, some were wondering if Hurley was the right guy for the job. He brought in guys like Tristen Newton, Joey C, etc and built a roster he could design a real offense around. You see the results the past 2 years.

I know it is a totally different set of circumstances here, but point being in this day and age it can be smart to gut the roster and attack the portal. If you have a vision for your offensive and defensive schemes but don’t have the personnel to fit it, you might as well go out and get it. Guys can pretty much transfer whenever they want now, so developing guys is becoming a more risky proposition now than it once was.

(03-27-2024 08:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 07:35 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 04:57 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 04:34 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I see this moving towards the universities signing contracts with these guys, becoming employees of the school for probably 2 year periods.

Probably, but then what do you do about all the college athletes in sports that are non-revenue? Only basketball, football and in some places, women's basketball, earn enough money to pay their way.

Do you pay them, even though they generate little or no revenue? Why?

Well Universities do not pay all their employers the same,so probably the non revenue might make little. Would you still count scholarships as money? Would you just give them money and make th3 pay for classes etc?
Lots to be determined, but definitely see it going in some way where the colleges have more control.

I'm not sure. So far, the universities have been slapped down in court at every turn. They are not allowed to limit NIL, so how would they be allowed to limit player compensation?

I guess if they are employees, they can take the salary or leave it, who knows? And there would be a union, etc.

Long way to go to get there. Lots of opportunities for twists and turns. And universities always find a way to screw it up.

collective bargaining is in the best interests of the universities and the athletes in high revenue sports. In the end, that is where this ends up.

(03-28-2024 08:14 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 08:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 07:35 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 04:57 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 04:34 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I see this moving towards the universities signing contracts with these guys, becoming employees of the school for probably 2 year periods.

Probably, but then what do you do about all the college athletes in sports that are non-revenue? Only basketball, football and in some places, women's basketball, earn enough money to pay their way.

Do you pay them, even though they generate little or no revenue? Why?

Well Universities do not pay all their employers the same,so probably the non revenue might make little. Would you still count scholarships as money? Would you just give them money and make th3 pay for classes etc?
Lots to be determined, but definitely see it going in some way where the colleges have more control.

I'm not sure. So far, the universities have been slapped down in court at every turn. They are not allowed to limit NIL, so how would they be allowed to limit player compensation?

I guess if they are employees, they can take the salary or leave it, who knows? And there would be a union, etc.

Long way to go to get there. Lots of opportunities for twists and turns. And universities always find a way to screw it up.

collective bargaining is in the best interests of the universities and the athletes in high revenue sports. In the end, that is where this ends up.

Probably. I don't care. My point is, whatever happens, the universities will still screw it up.

(03-28-2024 08:54 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:14 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 08:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 07:35 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 04:57 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Probably, but then what do you do about all the college athletes in sports that are non-revenue? Only basketball, football and in some places, women's basketball, earn enough money to pay their way.

Do you pay them, even though they generate little or no revenue? Why?

Well Universities do not pay all their employers the same,so probably the non revenue might make little. Would you still count scholarships as money? Would you just give them money and make th3 pay for classes etc?
Lots to be determined, but definitely see it going in some way where the colleges have more control.

I'm not sure. So far, the universities have been slapped down in court at every turn. They are not allowed to limit NIL, so how would they be allowed to limit player compensation?

I guess if they are employees, they can take the salary or leave it, who knows? And there would be a union, etc.

Long way to go to get there. Lots of opportunities for twists and turns. And universities always find a way to screw it up.

collective bargaining is in the best interests of the universities and the athletes in high revenue sports. In the end, that is where this ends up.

Probably. I don't care. My point is, whatever happens, the universities will still screw it up.

They should screw it up. It's not their skillset or mission to do this type of thing. Institutions created to educate and prepare a workforce for society were never meant to produce high revenue entertainment products. They were able to somewhat keep a handle on it until the money generated got out of hand.

(03-28-2024 09:15 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:54 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:14 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 08:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 07:35 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Well Universities do not pay all their employers the same,so probably the non revenue might make little. Would you still count scholarships as money? Would you just give them money and make th3 pay for classes etc?
Lots to be determined, but definitely see it going in some way where the colleges have more control.

I'm not sure. So far, the universities have been slapped down in court at every turn. They are not allowed to limit NIL, so how would they be allowed to limit player compensation?

I guess if they are employees, they can take the salary or leave it, who knows? And there would be a union, etc.

Long way to go to get there. Lots of opportunities for twists and turns. And universities always find a way to screw it up.

collective bargaining is in the best interests of the universities and the athletes in high revenue sports. In the end, that is where this ends up.

Probably. I don't care. My point is, whatever happens, the universities will still screw it up.

They should screw it up. It's not their skillset or mission to do this type of thing. Institutions created to educate and prepare a workforce for society were never meant to produce high revenue entertainment products. They were able to somewhat keep a handle on it until the money generated got out of hand.

Yeah. Illegally, by keeping all the revenue for decades. I have no sympathy for their situation. They did it to themselves.

(03-28-2024 09:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 09:15 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:54 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:14 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 08:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I'm not sure. So far, the universities have been slapped down in court at every turn. They are not allowed to limit NIL, so how would they be allowed to limit player compensation?

I guess if they are employees, they can take the salary or leave it, who knows? And there would be a union, etc.

Long way to go to get there. Lots of opportunities for twists and turns. And universities always find a way to screw it up.

collective bargaining is in the best interests of the universities and the athletes in high revenue sports. In the end, that is where this ends up.

Probably. I don't care. My point is, whatever happens, the universities will still screw it up.

They should screw it up. It's not their skillset or mission to do this type of thing. Institutions created to educate and prepare a workforce for society were never meant to produce high revenue entertainment products. They were able to somewhat keep a handle on it until the money generated got out of hand.

Yeah. Illegally, by keeping all the revenue for decades. I have no sympathy for their situation. They did it to themselves.

Like most unethical/illegal enterprises, it's easy to keep under control as long as the visuals of inequity are not undeniable.

According to one of the Tiger beat writers - Jason Munz, the Tigers are interested in at least three portal entries to date:

6-6 James Madison senior wing Terrence Edwards Jr. (17.2 points per game, 34.3% from three, 3.4 assists per game),

6-5 Drake sophomore guard Kevin Overton (10.6 ppg, 29.6 minutes per game),

6-4 Wichita State senior guard Colby Rogers (16.4 ppg, 40.9% from three)

The author also states Penny hopes to wrap up most of the roster by July and intends to be more selective than in the past.

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...078256007/

(03-29-2024 04:35 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

Well frick. Can't have anything nice.

A question to further my NCAA basketball knowledge: is it possible to build a winner predominantly through the transfer portal?

By "winner" I mean a standout at below the P level.

(03-30-2024 05:01 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  A question to further my NCAA basketball knowledge: is it possible to build a winner predominantly through the transfer portal?

By "winner" I mean a standout at below the P level.

I don't know. I'm still accessing the situation. Right now it seems to be what I feared it would be. Think Curt Flood.