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"A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - georgia_tech_swagger - 09-16-2016 05:46 PM
....... except that polling indicates Gary Johnson is taking more votes from Hillary than Trump. And Jill Stein presumably takes nearly ALL her votes from Clinton.
Hillary is now at DefCon 4 and her SuperPAC is pouring millions into ad buys to convince Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters to vote for her.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/16/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-race.html
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - rath v2.0 - 09-16-2016 06:00 PM
I can not imagine a single Gary Johnson voter pulling the lever for Hillary. Ever.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - Native Georgian - 09-16-2016 07:46 PM
(09-16-2016 05:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: her SuperPAC is pouring millions into ad buys to convince Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters to vote for her.Good luck with that. Johnson/Stein voters are probably the most intensely-motivated and ideologically-informed constituencies out there.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - Fo Shizzle - 09-16-2016 09:55 PM
(09-16-2016 06:00 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: I can not imagine a single Gary Johnson voter pulling the lever for Hillary. Ever.
Im not pulling a lever for either of these unqualified and corrupt gang members. No fcking way in hell.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - Fo Shizzle - 09-16-2016 09:57 PM
(09-16-2016 07:46 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:(09-16-2016 05:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: her SuperPAC is pouring millions into ad buys to convince Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters to vote for her.Good luck with that. Johnson/Stein voters are probably the most intensely-motivated and ideologically-informed constituencies out there.
HRC is wasting her sycophants' money...as if she gives a damn.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - wmubroncopilot - 09-17-2016 12:18 AM
(09-16-2016 09:55 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(09-16-2016 06:00 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: I can not imagine a single Gary Johnson voter pulling the lever for Hillary. Ever.
Im not pulling a lever for either of these unqualified and corrupt gang members. No fcking way in hell.
Amen
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - bullet - 09-17-2016 09:22 AM
(09-16-2016 07:46 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:(09-16-2016 05:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: her SuperPAC is pouring millions into ad buys to convince Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters to vote for her.Good luck with that. Johnson/Stein voters are probably the most intensely-motivated and ideologically-informed constituencies out there.
Well the 1% who truly support them are. But both have a lot of soft support this year.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - VA49er - 09-17-2016 09:30 AM
(09-17-2016 09:22 AM)bullet Wrote:(09-16-2016 07:46 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:(09-16-2016 05:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: her SuperPAC is pouring millions into ad buys to convince Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters to vote for her.Good luck with that. Johnson/Stein voters are probably the most intensely-motivated and ideologically-informed constituencies out there.
Well the 1% who truly support them are. But both have a lot of soft support this year.
I can agree with that. I've never voted 3rd party but seriously considering it this year because the other two candidates are terrible. The only wasted vote is a vote for someone you do not truely believe in.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - firmbizzle - 09-17-2016 09:49 AM
I don't know how Trump wins unless the Bernie cucks stay home. Here are the numbers that aren't voting for Trump:
White Women: 32% of the population, 75% not voting for Trump. ~24% overall vote
The Blacks: 12.6% of the population, 95+% not voting for Trump. ~12% overall vote.
The Hispanics: 16.3% of the population, 75% not voting for Trump. ~12% overall vote.
The Asians: 4.8% of the population, 75% not voting for Trump. ~3.6% overall vote.
24+12+12+3= 51% of the voting pool is anti-Trump.
Bernie cucks will win it or lose it for HRC. I think that they act like true cucks and stay home.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - DefCONNOne - 09-17-2016 11:10 AM
(09-17-2016 09:30 AM)VA49er Wrote:(09-17-2016 09:22 AM)bullet Wrote:(09-16-2016 07:46 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:(09-16-2016 05:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: her SuperPAC is pouring millions into ad buys to convince Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters to vote for her.Good luck with that. Johnson/Stein voters are probably the most intensely-motivated and ideologically-informed constituencies out there.
Well the 1% who truly support them are. But both have a lot of soft support this year.
I can agree with that. I've never voted 3rd party but seriously considering it this year because the other two candidates are terrible. The only wasted vote is a vote for someone you do not truely believe in.
No, a wasted vote is voting for that f***ing pothead because you want all your rights taken away under an HRC administration.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - Smaug - 09-17-2016 12:09 PM
I'd rather vote for someone I can stomach and lose than for someone I can't and win.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - firmbizzle - 09-17-2016 12:37 PM
(09-17-2016 12:09 PM)Smaug Wrote: I'd rather vote for someone I can stomach and lose than for someone I can't and win.
This is why America doesn't win anymore.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - HeartOfDixie - 09-17-2016 12:46 PM
(09-16-2016 07:46 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:(09-16-2016 05:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: her SuperPAC is pouring millions into ad buys to convince Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters to vote for her.Good luck with that. Johnson/Stein voters are probably the most intensely-motivated and ideologically-informed constituencies out there.
You actually think that?
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - Smaug - 09-17-2016 12:55 PM
(09-17-2016 12:37 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:(09-17-2016 12:09 PM)Smaug Wrote: I'd rather vote for someone I can stomach and lose than for someone I can't and win.
This is why America doesn't win anymore.
Sure thing, Skeeter.
"A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - chargeradio - 09-17-2016 01:40 PM
Stein is the outlet for Sanders supporters who feel that Clinton (much less Johnson or Trump) is too moderate. If Clinton can't capture the far left, she can easily lose the popular vote.
Where Clinton has to be concerned is Johnson making inroads in places like Ohio and Florida. The traffic jam just left of center on social issues can clear a path for Trump. If Trump wins those states it may be a long night for the Clinton campaign.
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RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - Fo Shizzle - 09-18-2016 07:53 AM
(09-17-2016 11:10 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:(09-17-2016 09:30 AM)VA49er Wrote:(09-17-2016 09:22 AM)bullet Wrote:(09-16-2016 07:46 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:(09-16-2016 05:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: her SuperPAC is pouring millions into ad buys to convince Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters to vote for her.Good luck with that. Johnson/Stein voters are probably the most intensely-motivated and ideologically-informed constituencies out there.
Well the 1% who truly support them are. But both have a lot of soft support this year.
I can agree with that. I've never voted 3rd party but seriously considering it this year because the other two candidates are terrible. The only wasted vote is a vote for someone you do not truely believe in.
No, a wasted vote is voting for that f***ing pothead because you want all your rights taken away under an HRC administration.
Engaging in mass hyperbole does not bolster your case Conn.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - MplsBison - 09-18-2016 09:32 AM
"Ad buys"
One of the biggest scams of all time.
- 0% effective at convincing a single person to vote a particular way
- funnels billions of dollars that come from donors into the coffers of TV networks
- and in return, they give kickbacks to the campaign managers as a "finders fee" for getting them the business
Should be illegal.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - firmbizzle - 09-18-2016 09:38 AM
(09-18-2016 09:32 AM)MplsBison Wrote: "Ad buys"
One of the biggest scams of all time.
- 0% effective at convincing a single person to vote a particular way
- funnels billions of dollars that come from donors into the coffers of TV networks
- and in return, they give kickbacks to the campaign managers as a "finders fee" for getting them the business
Should be illegal.
You can't believe polls. Media outlets will skew polls in order to get one side or the other to spend money on ads. I bet you that the results of the election will be much different than the polls.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - MplsBison - 09-18-2016 09:46 AM
They always are.
Notice that as soon as it started looking like Trump was finally finished and Clinton would skate to the finish line ... now magically Trump is roaring back.
The media doesn't give a s___ who wins. They care about spectacle. They care about entertainment. They care about theater. And above all, they care about attention, views, clicks, and ratings. And money, of course.
RE: "A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hillary Clinton" - Love and Honor - 09-18-2016 12:02 PM
(09-16-2016 06:00 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: I can not imagine a single Gary Johnson voter pulling the lever for Hillary. Ever.
Perhaps, but there may be quite a few who were thinking of reluctantly voting for Hillary to keep Trump out, but as the issues continue to pile on her they're just saying "f this, I'm voting for that Johnson guy."