Cat's_Claw Wrote:Hey, I get just as big a laugh when C-USA fans immediately say they're better then the Big East when they haven't proven anything either. And how is it any different then C-USA fans telling Temple, or Louisiana Tech or North Texas or others what THEY have to do to join C-USA? It's not like you guys don't have work to do. I the case of the Big East, the conference needs teams who are improving thus the reason for Big East fans saying what those schools need to do to get in. You can chuckle all you want, the bottomline is that the Big East is a BCS conference and the smart thing is to act like a BCS conference. If people want to "chuckle" at the Big East and their fans for acting like that, tough, they'll have to live with it. But don't whine to Big East fans when they act like a BCS conference, because they are. Heck, you assume that bad thing can happen in 4 years, 4 years from now the Big East could have 2 Top 10 programs or 3 or 4 Top 25 programs, who knows.

But I'm not making this an issue about CUSA/BE. This was a BE thread talking about the possible demise of it by a BE poster and had nothing to do with CUSA Cat. So I'm not trying to start anything with you.

If I have said something about the BE you don't agree with then just say so. But don't bring CUSA into this. I get tired of the constant pissing match between CUSA & BE posters.

I did say the BE has a lot more to prove than CUSA. I say that because the BE could possibly (and I'm not saying they will) lose their BCS status and because of that the conference has to prove it's worthy of keeping that status. Some of you think it will not happen and that's fine. But the possibility do exist. Just like the possibility of the BE coming back into CUSA to get another team or two. If I said anything incorrect so far let me know. BTW, where have you seen CUSA posters telling other schools what they need to do to be invited?

I haven't assume anything bad will happen to the BE in 4 years. But there is the possibility of things not remaining as they are now. And I'm not whinning about anything. Again, it's funny when someone don't agree with what someone else is saying that it's called whinning.

Cat, you have got to stop being so damn defensive about the BE. I said the BE is in a far better position than CUSA. Did you not read that? I'm sure the BE merits will speak for itself.

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HiddenDragon Wrote:Again, USF is a stretch.  ECU was right down the road.  Marshall is in the general area.  I don't know why Mike would want to go any further west than Louisville or any further south than North Carolina.  Don't give me the market stuff either because schools like Auburn and Miss St seems to do well in their small towns.  Yes they have history and tradition but they still play in small towns.

Auburn and Mississippi State aren't the only ones in that market. Alabama and Ole Miss are also in that area, along with Arkansas. Market was obviously an issue, didn't you read the BCS' statement when talking about conferences having BCS access a few weeks ago? Market size was one of the issues.

I'm not saying market isn't an issue. I'm saying that to hold the market issue against programs like ECU or Marshall isn't fair. ECU and Marshall has access to extremely large TV markets.

I really don't think BE and CUSA posters have much to argue about. Sure, there are some from cusa who are resentful and there are some who have joined the BE who are gloating, but in reality, we all want what is best for our schools. Additionally, the BE and cusa have now become historically linked for all time.

When the schools in the BE do split, there's a great liklihood that the new conference will be looking toward cusa for candidates: six of the nine original candidates are now in cusa.

The tv market issue has been stuck in my craw for quite some time. ECU's media market is NOT just Greenville, Kinston and New Bern, contrary to what the "experts" say. Rocky Mount (35 miles away) is not included in the numbers. Their numbers don't include Raleigh (75 miles away), which has the largest concentration of alumni outside of Greenville. Tidewater Virginia (90 miles away) also has a large number of alumni.

We (ECU) are eastern NC's team, despite what some of the ACC homers would tell you. If our football team were on TV consistently, not even North Carolina could beat our ratings in eastern NC.

I think everyone can agree that memphis is the big fish in a little pond now in the NCUSA.........

Quote:But don't whine to Big East fans when they act like a BCS conference, because they are.

Be sure to include "simply because some schools are close to major media markets"

catdaddy_2402 Wrote:

Quote:But don't whine to Big East fans when they act like a BCS conference, because they are.

Be sure to include "simply because some schools are close to major media markets"

I'll also add "also because the average Big East champion finished ahead of the overrated ACC's champion, which contributed to the Big East keeping their BCS bid!" Thanks catdaddy, I didn't think of adding that! It's good to see the ACC adding teams yet still being the 4th best football conference in America.

East Carolina & Memphis will never be in the Big East because the commissioner said so.

David Krysakowski Wrote:East Carolina & Memphis will never be in the Big East because the commissioner said so.

No he didn't. He said that Memphis wasn't a candidate at the time. It took them several months to say that, and rumors said that Memphis only missed out by a few votes. East Carolina wasn't in because Virginia Tech left and probably the basketball schools. Both should be serious and top candidates next time around.