If we're getting logical of course he didn't hit him spraying auto.

And that's a ton of ammo expelled shooting out windows.

And I'm more wondering how the vehicles are running on gas that's years old. That might explain why only shown driving older vehicles that wouldnt have as much of an issue with fuel injectors or filters gumming up. Unless they also find octane booster or fuel additives. With the humidity in that area of the country those gas tanks would have a lot of water from moisture spoiling the gas as well.

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And why isn't the grass 4 feet tall in front of every house and...

It kills me that people who watch a show about the zombie apocalypse get caught up in the unlikeliness of events. Just enjoy the ride.

The shows issues are that the writers/showrunners routinely put the characters into very poor positions that seem out of character. It takes the viewer out of the realism of the show and causes them to lose interest. Sometimes it seems like they do or add stupid additions just because they want to have their mark on the story when they could've gone a more appropriate route by following the comic more closely.

They also tend to use these out-of-character moments to drive their plot line they have on rails...instead of using actual in-character motivations to advance the story. "Okay, we have to hit all of these plot points so we will have this character do this thing even though he has no reason to do it." Grass being a realistic height or explaining how old gasoline works isn't actually relevant to the logic of the show. A main character dying to some seemingly stupid out of character event is relevant

Saying that a show based on zombies or fantasy can't have logical rules it follows is just a poor argument and an excuse for what is bad writing for this show. Is TWD terrible television? No, but it has gone down hill for quite a few seasons when it could realistically be much better

Game of Thrones has suffered a similar fate though not nearly to the degree that TWD has. And at least they can use the excuse that they have no more book material to pick from so they get some slack

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(10-25-2017 12:16 AM)Shrack Wrote:  The shows issues are that the writers/showrunners routinely put the characters into very poor positions that seem out of character. It takes the viewer out of the realism of the show and causes them to lose interest. Sometimes it seems like they do or add stupid additions just because they want to have their mark on the story when they could've gone a more appropriate route by following the comic more closely.

They also tend to use these out-of-character moments to drive their plot line they have on rails...instead of using actual in-character motivations to advance the story. "Okay, we have to hit all of these plot points so we will have this character do this thing even though he has no reason to do it." Grass being a realistic height or explaining how old gasoline works isn't actually relevant to the logic of the show. A main character dying to some seemingly stupid out of character event is relevant

Saying that a show based on zombies or fantasy can't have logical rules it follows is just a poor argument and an excuse for what is bad writing for this show. Is TWD terrible television? No, but it has gone down hill for quite a few seasons when it could realistically be much better

Game of Thrones has suffered a similar fate though not nearly to the degree that TWD has. And at least they can use the excuse that they have no more book material to pick from so they get some slack

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Exactly. I don't nitpick the show. If it's not central to the plot or direction of the show then I don't care. When it is and it's that glaring I start to lose interest.

And for the gas and bullets guys, a large portion of the show has been dedicated to the struggle with ranging out for supplies and getting around certain things, taking over armories,etc etc. Takes about 2 minutes to get water out of gasoline with a glass bulb and a valve in the bottom. It's not like they mix. The water is always heavier. They probably don't show that because, who gives a ****? Private airplanes keep fuel in the wings for a long time between uses. Pilots stick a clear cylinder into a valve under the wing at a low point and drain a bit till they don't see separation. Other vehicles have one built in like tractors and you release the water at a low point. And vehicles will run like that anyway it's just not good for them and damages over time. But guess what? Everyone's dead. There's another car around every corner.

And bullets? Name a show or movie that accurately tracks ammunition. It's so cliche I don't even notice anymore. But they do at least attempt to not waste bullets when a blade will work or when the noise will attract other walkers, so it satisfies it was touched upon but we aren't meant to dwell on it.

If you are going to watch a show that is based on a future or past that never happened, you have to take the attitude of the economist stranded on an desert island. "First, let's assume we have a boat..."

It would be great if one of the characters could fly a military helicopter. They could take Neegan's entire gang out in 1 minute. They are right next to D.C. I am sure they could find tons of helicopters.

(10-25-2017 07:46 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 12:16 AM)Shrack Wrote:  The shows issues are that the writers/showrunners routinely put the characters into very poor positions that seem out of character. It takes the viewer out of the realism of the show and causes them to lose interest. Sometimes it seems like they do or add stupid additions just because they want to have their mark on the story when they could've gone a more appropriate route by following the comic more closely.

They also tend to use these out-of-character moments to drive their plot line they have on rails...instead of using actual in-character motivations to advance the story. "Okay, we have to hit all of these plot points so we will have this character do this thing even though he has no reason to do it." Grass being a realistic height or explaining how old gasoline works isn't actually relevant to the logic of the show. A main character dying to some seemingly stupid out of character event is relevant

Saying that a show based on zombies or fantasy can't have logical rules it follows is just a poor argument and an excuse for what is bad writing for this show. Is TWD terrible television? No, but it has gone down hill for quite a few seasons when it could realistically be much better

Game of Thrones has suffered a similar fate though not nearly to the degree that TWD has. And at least they can use the excuse that they have no more book material to pick from so they get some slack

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Exactly. I don't nitpick the show. If it's not central to the plot or direction of the show then I don't care. When it is and it's that glaring I start to lose interest.

And for the gas and bullets guys, a large portion of the show has been dedicated to the struggle with ranging out for supplies and getting around certain things, taking over armories,etc etc. Takes about 2 minutes to get water out of gasoline with a glass bulb and a valve in the bottom. It's not like they mix. The water is always heavier. They probably don't show that because, who gives a ****? Private airplanes keep fuel in the wings for a long time between uses. Pilots stick a clear cylinder into a valve under the wing at a low point and drain a bit till they don't see separation. Other vehicles have one built in like tractors and you release the water at a low point. And vehicles will run like that anyway it's just not good for them and damages over time. But guess what? Everyone's dead. There's another car around every corner.

And bullets? Name a show or movie that accurately tracks ammunition. It's so cliche I don't even notice anymore. But they do at least attempt to not waste bullets when a blade will work or when the noise will attract other walkers, so it satisfies it was touched upon but we aren't meant to dwell on it.

John Wick but that's just 1 out of hundreds of movies that don't.

Hah, I just watched John Wick 2 last night. Holy head shots.

(10-25-2017 12:15 PM)benny_t Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 07:46 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 12:16 AM)Shrack Wrote:  The shows issues are that the writers/showrunners routinely put the characters into very poor positions that seem out of character. It takes the viewer out of the realism of the show and causes them to lose interest. Sometimes it seems like they do or add stupid additions just because they want to have their mark on the story when they could've gone a more appropriate route by following the comic more closely.

They also tend to use these out-of-character moments to drive their plot line they have on rails...instead of using actual in-character motivations to advance the story. "Okay, we have to hit all of these plot points so we will have this character do this thing even though he has no reason to do it." Grass being a realistic height or explaining how old gasoline works isn't actually relevant to the logic of the show. A main character dying to some seemingly stupid out of character event is relevant

Saying that a show based on zombies or fantasy can't have logical rules it follows is just a poor argument and an excuse for what is bad writing for this show. Is TWD terrible television? No, but it has gone down hill for quite a few seasons when it could realistically be much better

Game of Thrones has suffered a similar fate though not nearly to the degree that TWD has. And at least they can use the excuse that they have no more book material to pick from so they get some slack

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Exactly. I don't nitpick the show. If it's not central to the plot or direction of the show then I don't care. When it is and it's that glaring I start to lose interest.

And for the gas and bullets guys, a large portion of the show has been dedicated to the struggle with ranging out for supplies and getting around certain things, taking over armories,etc etc. Takes about 2 minutes to get water out of gasoline with a glass bulb and a valve in the bottom. It's not like they mix. The water is always heavier. They probably don't show that because, who gives a ****? Private airplanes keep fuel in the wings for a long time between uses. Pilots stick a clear cylinder into a valve under the wing at a low point and drain a bit till they don't see separation. Other vehicles have one built in like tractors and you release the water at a low point. And vehicles will run like that anyway it's just not good for them and damages over time. But guess what? Everyone's dead. There's another car around every corner.

And bullets? Name a show or movie that accurately tracks ammunition. It's so cliche I don't even notice anymore. But they do at least attempt to not waste bullets when a blade will work or when the noise will attract other walkers, so it satisfies it was touched upon but we aren't meant to dwell on it.

John Wick but that's just 1 out of hundreds of movies that don't.

Used to be a staple of TV and movies that at some point in a gunfight one of them would say something like "That's five shots, you only have one left". Dirty Harry?

(10-25-2017 10:41 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  It would be great if one of the characters could fly a military helicopter. They could take Neegan's entire gang out in 1 minute. They are right next to D.C. I am sure they could find tons of helicopters.

Good point but as I recall the dude with a tank under the command of the Governor was not exactly wrecking shop vs Rick's crew. Although w/ this show, someone on Neegen's crew would shoot a perfect head shot on the helicopter pilot thus bringing it down. If it was a main character, they would be hit in the shoulder and jump out onto a pile of mattresses.

Forget all that let's talk about a premium supply they never talk about, TOILET PAPER.

Trying to get absolute logic out of a tv show derived from a comic book is confusing. We have zombies and we are into counting bullets and nitpicking the obvious fallacies in this type of production.

This is entertainment, you have to suspend some measure of logic to enjoy most movies or tv productions. These are not documentaries.

Shrack & MUther are right, but the bigger issue is that the show alternates between stupid / boring or no fun.

I tried Sunday night. Hated it. Its terrible. Stick a fork in this one. Its done. It never had any endgame in mind and therefore never had any point.

Bring on Stranger Things 2.

I agree it has gotten long in the tooth. Last season was bad as well.

Last episode was better than the premiere, IMO. Would have been better if these first two episodes were flipped.

(10-31-2017 01:34 PM)MichealBond Wrote:  Last episode was better than the premiere, IMO. Would have been better if these first two episodes were flipped.

The cinematography w/ the close ups on people's faces in slow motion kinda ruined it for me.

(10-31-2017 03:55 PM)Digi368 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 01:34 PM)MichealBond Wrote:  Last episode was better than the premiere, IMO. Would have been better if these first two episodes were flipped.

The cinematography w/ the close ups on people's faces in slow motion kinda ruined it for me.

I didn't get that either. Too "artsy fartsy".

Not completely surprised this thread hasn't been updated in a while. I'm sick of Eugene and am ready for his character to go away.

Yeah, I'm watching just to see how he gets it.

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And if Carol turns into Ripley.

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