TopCoog Wrote:Rice can do anything they want to do.

Except win in football or basketball.

TopCoog Wrote:There is not a single piece of evidence to back up that dribble L-Yes. It is just another example of creating a phony story through wishful thinking. You know, and everyone reading this board knows that neither ND nor Penn Sate will play a down of Big East football. You must be emplyed by the Kerry campaign.

I'll believe my sources. You believe whatever you wish.

They can do that as well 3601, if they wish. You don't understand how much money they have. The Rice endowment is worth nearly 5 billion dollars, not million, billion. They could hire your coach or UL's in 24 hours if they really wanted to and you would have no chamce of competing with them. Up to this point they have refused to compromise their academics to win but they could.

"MT and the Big East were prepared to make massive concessions to Miami to keep them around. I imagine offers in the same manner could be made to either ND or PSU. "


-- L-Yes....I am fairly certain that the BE did make such an offer to PSU already...suprisingly....it didn't occur untill after USF had accepted her BE invite....I think it was in the guranteed 10 million range...which was around the #s offered to Miami


Jackson

TopCoog Wrote:They can do that as well 3601, if they wish. You don't understand how much money they have. The Rice endowment is worth nearly 5 billion dollars, not million, billion. They could hire your coach or UL's in 24 hours if they really wanted to and you would have no chamce of competing with them. Up to this point they have refused to compromise their academics to win but they could.

If UofL spent its endowment on coaches or athletic facilities we could do all sorts of neat things. Again, what exactly is your point? Rice has a big endowment? So what? What exactly does that have to do with anything?

"NFL-- Nobody has ever said there might be a split except you guys on the message boards and a few reporters"

-- And the Temple AD...I have also read quotes from Uconn coach Randy Esdell (sp?) and UC AD Bob Goin about the possibility of a split


Jackson

The statement was made to 3601 L...not you. He dissed Rice, as if Memphis was some big national force. My point was that if Rice wished Pitino would be their coach next week and you could not compete with the money they could offer and he couldn't turn it down. They would look at Louisville and memphis as a poor community college and from where they sit that would almost be true.

L-yes....did anyone discuss in your meeting the possibility of getting both PSU and ND.....I know that sounds very farfetched....but if somehow or someway we were able to convince one of the two.....I think we would have a decent shot at getting the other one involved as well.....PSU and ND do have a nice history together



Jackson

Jackson1011 Wrote:L-yes....did anyone discuss in your meeting the possibility of getting both PSU and ND.....I know that sounds very farfetched....but if somehow or someway we were able to convince one of the two.....I think we would have a decent shot at getting the other one involved as well.....PSU and ND do have a nice history together



Jackson

Actually it was discussed in that context. It wasn't an either or proposition the way I understood it.

:crying: ......if that happened....that would be a dream come true....it would make all the things we went/are going through worth it....



Jackson

jackson...there are no facts here. he is blowing smoke out both of his ears like he always does. I presume you are a grown man.You know full well that ND and penn State are not going to do that.
It would be like saying Oklahoma and LSU are headed for CUSA....
this is the funniest place in America sometime.

If anyone here wants a more detailed account send me a private message and I'll respond. I'm tired of TopCoogs act. He kills good discussion.

L- Yes....private message sent.....I am interested in hearing more

-- ToopCog....this league has gone through so much the last few months.....I think a lot of people are ready for some good news....even if its not a certainty and may take place yrs down the line.....its nice to hear things that aren't the league sucks or the league is going to fall apart



Jackson

Quote:this is the funniest place in America sometime.

The fact that you so casually brush aside comments from the Temple AD, Cincinnati AD, and coaches at Connecticut and Notre Dame truly astonishes me. You have it set in stone in your mind that the Big East will never split, and you refuse to provide any figures to back up your claims when called on it.

This is not the funniest place in America, but it is one of the most frustrating when you're here pushing your 'split is impossible/suicide' agenda. :bang:

There is no suicide aganda nfl, the Big East will be fine but the only split is in your head. If you have the best basketball league in america why screw it up. Its what you have working right now, the football side will never be a major player so you need the basketball. That is what the NBE was built on.

Quote:If you have the best basketball league in america why screw it up.

Umm... because if you split you still have arguably the best basketball conference in America and you split your TV contract 8 less ways?

Tell me, do you think that if the Big East split, the basketball contract of the remaining football schools would be half or less of what it is under the current 16 team contract?

Quote:the Big East will be fine but the only split is in your head.

And the head of the Temple AD. :rolleyes: At least us lunatics have each other as company.

You lose 75 million people in your market nfl...its too much. You know that, you just want to argue. And frankly, I don't think you are the best basketball league if you split.

Quote: You lose 75 million people in your market nfl...its too much

Tell me, do you think that if the Big East split, the basketball contract of the remaining football schools would be half or less of what it is under the current 16 team contract? Because that's what it would take for the football schools splitting to hurt them, and if you take a look at the two groups, you'd be a fool to think the football schools make up less than or half of the TV contract.

TopCoog Wrote:They can do that as well 3601, if they wish. You don't understand how much money they have. The Rice endowment is worth nearly 5 billion dollars, not million, billion. They could hire your coach or UL's in 24 hours if they really wanted to and you would have no chamce of competing with them. Up to this point they have refused to compromise their academics to win but they could.

Take this crap to the C-USA board, no one and I mean no one here give's a crap what Rice can or can not do.

There is no reason at all to be talking about freaken Rice.

While I have nothing against a lot of these programs being discussed, they really don't have much to do with an "eastern" conference. It would be nice for there to be a true eastern football conference (if magic could be worked) that included Army, Navy, Temple, Syracuse, WVU, Penn State, Rutgers, UConn, UMass and a few more. Some of the other programs already admitted in the BE conference or being considered are great programs which I have a lot of respect for, but they aren't really a part of eastern football tradition or history. It seems like there is a need for a second MAC-like conference (but stronger) for a lot of these programs (Marshall, Louisville, Memphis, Cinci, etc.)... Just my opinion....