Guys, ignore TopCoog, he's a dumb*** troll. He's the one who was on this board declaring that the Big East would lose their BCS bid, then said that it was official, the Big East would host the 5th BCS bowl and only get a 4 million dollar payout instead of the alloted 14 million dollar payout, then swore up and down that Notre Dame would leave the Big East by the end of the year. I guess that was his "37 years in the media" helping him out there!

By the way TopCoog, since you're never wrong, did the rest of the BCS isolate the Big East and treat them like a "mid-major" like you claim? If you had 37 years of media experience like you claim (I'm guessing that 37 years of experience = you being a 37 year old guy who has watched the news) you would know that the ACC and SEC would never expand past 12 for several reasons. In the ACC's case, even with the monster T.V. deal they're not going ot get the profit they expected so expanding past 12 costs them money. The SEC will never expand because the SEC presidents are afraid that adding 2 more teams will force their schools to give up money to support "two more mouths". The Arkansas AD said as much during expansion last summer, then basically shot down any talks of Arkansas going to the Big 12, especially with the SECbeing the most lucrative conference in America. Expanding to 14 costs the SEC money. Same goes for the ACC.

L-Yes...TopCoog is a SMU fan. AKA Frogster.

IF (and that's a big "if") Notre Dame decides to join a conference in a few years, and picks the ACC, who the ACC poaches as the 14th team.

IF ND ever picks a conference, it'll be the Big 10 BUT if the ACC for whatever reason needed another team, I would guess they'd come back for Syracuse.

"I wouldn't like it, and I don't think our AD would either."


-- I was just wondering why you think this is such a bad idea? Your football would have a chance at the national championship and be reunited with Louisville and UC.....as for hoops....well no offense...but NCUSA is pretty pathetic in hoops with the exception Memphis, Tulsa, UTEP and maybe UAB....the rest of the schools are really bottom feeders....I would think the A-10 would preferable from a bball standpoint....and again it will only be for 5 yrs tops


Jacksojn

Jackson1011 Wrote:"I wouldn't like it, and I don't think our AD would either."


-- I was just wondering why you think this is such a bad idea? Your football would have a chance at the national championship and be reunited with Louisville and UC.....as for hoops....well no offense...but NCUSA is pretty pathetic in hoops with the exception Memphis, Tulsa, UTEP and maybe UAB....the rest of the schools are really bottom feeders....I would think the A-10 would preferable from a bball standpoint....and again it will only be for 5 yrs tops


Jacksojn

The A-10 is big enough as it is, and although its a slightly better league, I have no interest in playing any of those teams. At least I can get a little excited about Tulsa and UAB. As for the football part of the deal, the Big East's only edge is its Big East auto-bid. Otherwise, C-USA is a better fit for us.

Jackson1011 Wrote:"I wouldn't like it, and I don't think our AD would either."


-- I was just wondering why you think this is such a bad idea? ......

Jacksojn

Maybe because we would be in a conference with Charlotte again.

Jackson1011 Wrote:"I wouldn't like it, and I don't think our AD would either."


-- I was just wondering why you think this is such a bad idea? Your football would have a chance at the national championship and be reunited with Louisville and UC.....as for hoops....well no offense...but NCUSA is pretty pathetic in hoops with the exception Memphis, Tulsa, UTEP and maybe UAB....the rest of the schools are really bottom feeders....I would think the A-10 would preferable from a bball standpoint....and again it will only be for 5 yrs tops


Jacksojn

If UM moves to split conf, it would definitely be FB decision. Yes, it would be a hugh shot in the arm for our program, however, we are moving in the right direction w/ the coach, recruits and fan support. W/ UC and UL leaving, UM will soon outgrow the CUSA.

On the other hand, Cal is the BB king. If I'm not mistaken, last yr, UM played on national TV 15 times. And this yr the nonconf sched includes Maryland, Purdue, Pittsburgh, Mississippi, Providence, Texas, etc. So it won't matter if we are in the CUSA or A10.

oldtiger Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:"I wouldn't like it, and I don't think our AD would either."


-- I was just wondering why you think this is such a bad idea? ......

                                                    Jacksojn

Maybe because we would be in a conference with Charlotte again.

:shudder: :ninja:

I would see a Big East-FB/A-10-BB arrangement as dangerous for Memphis simply because what if 5 years rolls around and the programs decide not to split. Yeah, it looks obvious now, but things change and I don't think our administration would risk that much unless it is a sure bet.

Jackson1011 Wrote:"I wouldn't like it, and I don't think our AD would either."


-- I was just wondering why you think this is such a bad idea? Your football would have a chance at the national championship and be reunited with Louisville and UC.....as for hoops....well no offense...but NCUSA is pretty pathetic in hoops with the exception Memphis, Tulsa, UTEP and maybe UAB....the rest of the schools are really bottom feeders....I would think the A-10 would preferable from a bball standpoint....and again it will only be for 5 yrs tops


Jacksojn

the only teams in the A10 that are worth anything is Dayton and Xavier (Consistently). The rest of the league is medicore most of the time with one stepping forward every now and then. I don't believe they are better than NCUSA, but I do believe they are more equal now that Louisville and Cincy are gone from CUSA. We have Memphis, UAB, UTEP, and Rice (good every other year it seems), and Tulsa, along with UCF who went to the tourney last year. They have Dayton, Xavier, Temple (if they ever return to their winning ways), St. Joe's (lets see if they can stay on top), and George Washington ( decent every other year). Considering this, the leagues here seem to be pretty even. Don't even mention the bottom feeders, both leagues have their fare share.

Quote:I would see a Big East-FB/A-10-BB arrangement as dangerous for Memphis simply because what if 5 years rolls around and the programs decide not to split.

I would hope for Memphis' sake that the Big East wouldn't do something like that to them. This A-10/Big East arrangement would be a terrible idea and a step in the wrong direction. The Big East should take FULL members in all sports all in the same academic year or take nobody at all.

Quote:Considering this, the leagues here seem to be pretty even.

I know that basketball and football are the only things that really matter, but what about baseball and the olympic sports? Which conference is better?

And would the A-10 take a team they knew was gonna bolt in 5 years? I don't think they would be keen on the idea of being the farm league for the Big East.

Quote:I would see a Big East-FB/A-10-BB arrangement as dangerous for Memphis simply because what if 5 years rolls around and the programs decide not to split. Yeah, it looks obvious now, but things change and I don't think our administration would risk that much unless it is a sure bet.

i agree...it is just too dangerous...it needs to be all or nothing...give us full membership and we will come...maybe...if Big East could do a signed guarentee...and even then A-10 prolly wouldn't take us knowing we would be bolting in 3-5 years...however...i haven't herd any real discussion about this so i doubt it is real...nothing more than rumor.

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

Memphis Fans,
Sorry I did not post this yesterday. (I have to work some time. :D )
Anyway I was listening to this weeks "Inside the Ville" broadcast on Monday evening. The hosts of this show were asked by a caller about the 9th possible football playing member of the Big East and they said discussions between Memphis and the Big East were underway and that a deal should be reached shortly. They said they would look for Memphis to join the Big East in the next 2 to 3 years.
Now these two fellas are known to be very optimistic but as far as the conference information it has been right on the money during the last year to year and a half. They run a website that is part of a nationwide network. I don't post there but read their information regularly.
I will let Sandman post a link to it since I'm not sure what their policy is here about promoting other sites.
CJ

TheTiger Wrote:As for the football part of the deal, the Big East's only edge is its Big East auto-bid. Otherwise, C-USA is a better fit for us.

Possibly the understatement of the year when calling a BCS auto-bid an "edge". Its also funny that I think more of Memphis than you do in that I can't see a league of Tulsa, Southern Methodist, UTEP, East Carolina, Marshall, Houston, Tulane, UAB, Southern Miss, UCF and Rice being a better fit for Memphis than any league containing UC and Louisville not to mention UConn, Syracuse, West Virginia and Pittsburgh on so many levels.

If you're going to argue geography CUSA doesn't have any and if your going to go there why not just create a new OVC exclusively with programs from Kentucky and Tennessee; Western Kentucky, Murray, MTSU, Memphis, UTC, EKU, etc. would be competitive with the new CUSA.

"i agree...it is just too dangerous...it needs to be all or nothing...give us full membership and we will come...maybe...if Big East could do a signed guarentee...and even then A-10 prolly wouldn't take us knowing we would be bolting in 3-5 years...however...i haven't herd any real discussion about this so i doubt it is real...nothing more than rumor."


-- The A-10 and the BE are very close....and I have read that Mikey T sees the A-10 commish as a protege of sorts....there is a reason why the BE didn't steal any A-10 teams...even a solid one that would have made a lot of sense like Xavier...I'm sure something could be arranged with the A-10 for a few yrs....having Memphis would also help with the A-10's TV deal etc....so its not like they wouldn't be getting anything out of it


-- Cardinal Jim.....thanks for the post....if Memphis and the BE are talking now like your show said...I would expect something perhaps as soon as the end of the season....remember the BE needs the 9th football school in place by the time the 12 game schedule is begins

-- Memphis fans...I wouldn't be too worried about being stuck in the A-10 long term...the writing has been on the wall for a split for a while now....its going to happen .


Jackson

L-yes Wrote:

TheTiger Wrote:As for the football part of the deal, the Big East's only edge is its Big East auto-bid. Otherwise, C-USA is a better fit for us.

Possibly the understatement of the year when calling a BCS auto-bid an "edge". Its also funny that I think more of Memphis than you do in that I can't see a league of Tulsa, Southern Methodist, UTEP, East Carolina, Marshall, Houston, Tulane, UAB, Southern Miss, UCF and Rice being a better fit for Memphis than any league containing UC and Louisville not to mention UConn, Syracuse, West Virginia and Pittsburgh on so many levels.

If you're going to argue geography CUSA doesn't have any and if your going to go there why not just create a new OVC exclusively with programs from Kentucky and Tennessee; Western Kentucky, Murray, MTSU, Memphis, UTC, EKU, etc. would be competitive with the new CUSA.

I agree L-yes.

BSC is not everything, but it is an huge "EDGE". But more importantly, most UM fans would rather see us play the NBE rather NCUSA.....especially UL and UC. Sure, we enjoy playing USM, ECU in football, but other teams will take yrs to develop a relation w/ Rice, UTEP, SMU, etc. Now BB, no comparison. And also the TV exposure will be like night and day.

UM will have a banner yr in FB and BB - on the field/court and in the stands. MT (and his advisors) will realized what a mistake he made not picking us (before the other team - down South).

This board is a laugh a minute. I told you that Toledo/Temple had no chance to enter CUSA...they didn't. I told you weeks ago that the gator would pull out on the Big East. After a ton of personal abuse for that view I was correct once more. Thae Gator director now says they are looking at the SEC.
Those on this board who talk about a split have not a single thread of evidence to back up their claim. Nobody in the BE office is still discussing the subject. No wonder why the Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and UCONN people stay away from this board in droves. Eventually an uninformed poster is retuced to personal attacks because they have nothing else. That is what we have here.

TopCoog Wrote:This board is a laugh a minute. I told you that Toledo/Temple had no chance to enter CUSA...they didn't.

Only beacuse you post here and before you get too far ahead of yourself this is the Big East board. Your ramblings about the accuracy of your CUSA predictons are meaningless here. As for the Gator Bowl, it hasn't gone anywhere and until it does you are still batting a big fat 0 when it comes to predicting the future of the Big East conference.